Artest trade stuff HERE!! (merged)

NY Daily News - Golden State wants Ron Artest, even if he looks like a questionable fit with coach Mike Montgomery in only his second NBA season and the Warriors lacking strong personalities in the locker room to keep Artest in place. So far, the Warriors haven't been amenable to including rookie Ike Diogu in a package to the Pacers.

In considering some slim pickings being offered for Artest, the Pacers have been firm in their demands for a young player with lots of potential. They like Diogu, a 6-8 forward taken ninth overall last June. But the Warriors are reluctant to deal him, since he is one of their few players who can play in the post.

Indiana seems to be more enamored with Diogu than Troy Murphy, whose outside shooting would be a perfect fit with Jermaine O'Neal. The Pacers are said to be against taking Murphy's remaining contract (five years, $50 million). They've told potential suitors that they want to shed contracts and lower their luxury tax. That's why they're looking to package what they consider bad contracts when they move Artest.
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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38611/20060108/golden_state_remains_reluctant_to_part_with_diogu/

Again, as been said. ;)
 
http://www.hoopshype.com/interviews/oneal_nebojsa.htm

Since when have the Kings been a running, flashy "ball-in-between-the-legs" type of a team? Not since 2003 from what I've seen. That's Phoenix/Seattle/Dallas/Cleveland/Milwaulkee/Atlanta/Denver. Never seen Peja regularly or sometimes do any "passing between the legs", either, lol.

I understand what JO said about Peja ("fitting into what we're doing"), team defense-wise, since he's not that good there/inconsistent. But his man-man defense isn't bad or medicore, it's been pretty solid and consistent for awhile.

Ron Artest also fits into the mold he's talking about. ;)
 
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Kings113 said:
http://www.hoopshype.com/interviews/oneal_nebojsa.htm

Since when have the Kings been a running, flashy "ball-in-between-the-legs" type of a team? Not since 2003 from what I've seen. That's Phoenix/Seattle/Dallas/Cleveland/Milwaulkee/Atlanta/Denver. Never seen Peja regularly or sometimes do any "passing between the legs", either, lol.

I understand what JO said about Peja ("fitting into what we're doing"), team defense-wise, since he's not that good there/inconsistent. But his man-man defense isn't bad or medicore, it's been pretty solid and consistent for awhile.

Ron Artest also fits into the mold he's talking about. ;)
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Interesting also that JO reiterated his desire to have Bonzi on the team. If Artest could be had for Bonzi, I really don't see the risk -- the Kings are risking losing Bonzi at the end of the season anyway. Artest is younger, better defender, better on offense and, ok, well, he's a lot crazier and that's saying something. But still...
 
6th said:
Anything from a "source" or just message board chatter?
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Sounding almost real at this point.

http://www.pacersdigest.com/wishtv_011106.mov


Local indy TV ^


Atlanta Paper

WASHINGTON — Hawks forward Al Harrington was the owner of the league's best rumor prior to Wednesday night's game against Washington at the MCI Center. Harrington said he heard from people in Indiana that the Pacers and Clippers were close to finalizing a deal swapping Ron Artest for Corey Maggette. That deal, were it to happen, would finally put to rest the rumors that Harrington will be a part of a trade that frees Artest from the Pacers and the Pacers from their volatile and restless star. "Yeah, that would get it out of the water and off the Internet and all that nonsense," Harrington said. "But I've known for a couple of weeks now that nothing was going to happen with me. [Hawks general manager Billy Knight] told me that if there was going to be anything done he'd let me know. So it's been off of my mind for a while now." Harrington said he'll be happy for Artest, whenever he finally returns to the floor. And he's convinced that whatever team Artest suits up for will be dangerous. "Any team with a sane Ron Artest is going to be tough to deal with," Harrington said. "Any team with he's on with his mind right, is going to the playoffs and is going to make some noise. So it'll be good for Ron and for the Clippers."

Atlanta Journal Constituional

http://www.ajc.com/hawks/content/sports/hawks/stories/0112hawknot.html


Several other leaks from 'insiders' on Laker forums I think.


At this point I'll be surprised if it doesn't happen eventually.
 
Not that bad of a trade for Indy, if Maggz can come back this season. I saw on NBA.com he may be out the rest of the year if he has to get surgery after taking the next 6 weeks off.

Clippers with: E.T. and Artest? Man, that is playing with serious fireworks. If they don't meltdown, this team may end up winning the Pacific and contend for the title the next few years. Of course thats a BIG if. This may be bogus but this deal just sounds soo simple and right. Maybe the Pacers can swindle Chris Wilcox too?
 
Indianapolis Star - Indiana Pacers officials aren't talking, but a former Pacer thinks he knows where Ron Artest will be traded.

Al Harrington told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution on Wednesday that he heard from people in Indiana the Pacers were close to a deal that would send Artest to the Los Angeles Clippers for forward Corey Maggette.

"Any team with a sane Ron Artest is going to be tough to deal with," Harrington told the Atlanta newspaper. "Any team he's on with his mind right is going to the playoffs and is going to make some noise. So it'll be good for Ron and for the Clippers."

Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh declined comment Wednesday.

The Pacers placed Artest on the inactive list Dec. 12, two days after he voiced his desire to be traded. Artest said he hears the rumors about where he will end up.

"You hear about them, but you never know what's true," he said. "I'm just waiting to find out which team I'll be playing for."
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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38657/20060112/harrington_predicts_artest_going_to_clippers/
 
Judging from what Cuban just said on Artest on Quite Frankly - Artest ain't coming to Dallas. If that wasn't obvious already back in December from his 2 or 3 comments.
 
When are some of you going to realize that Ron Artest is NOT a hot commodity?

It could end up that Ron Artest goes NOWHERE and simply sits out the rest of this season.
 
Sure it could.

But since 15-20+ teams have called the Pacers about getting him, a whole bunch of players saying they'd want him on their team, and Walsh and Bird are widdling down deals, I'd say he is, along with his skills.

But he will, indeed, be dealt one way or another.
 
Kings113 said:
Sure it could.

But since 15-20+ teams have called the Pacers about getting him, a whole bunch of players saying they'd want him on their team, and Walsh and Bird are widdling down deals, I'd say he is, along with his skills.

But he will, indeed, be dealt one way or another.
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15-20 teams? I seriously doubt it. As far as Walsh and Bird whittling down deals are concerned, that's pretty much spin doctoring at work. It's probable he'll eventually go somewhere, but it's gonna be a matter of taking the offer that sucks the least and not one that actually helps the Pacers IMHO.
 
Just whats been reported and said a handful of times as the Artest ordeal has developed. Widdling down the deals as in setting apart the serious and not as serious offers, which was said by Walsh/Bird a couple times.

I believe both statements simply because of Artest's talent.
 
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I am guessing that if the pacers had a good offer on the table right now they would take it. I think when Walsh said he had a couple offers that included all-stars he was just trying to get other teams to up their offers.
 
Kings113 said:
Just whats been reported and said a handful of times as the Artest ordeal has developed. Widdling down the deals as in setting apart the serious and not as serious offers, which was said by Walsh/Bird a couple times.

I believe both statements simply because of Artest's talent.
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What's been reported and said is what is called puffery.

I know what the word "WHITTLING" means. You're assuming there were a lot of offers. I just don't think you can rationally make that assumption.
 
Cheryl Miller just reported on TNT the deal is "off the table" because Indiana can't medically clear Maggette. I am getting tired of this stupid crap, just get it over with!
 
Cheryl miller just said that the deal for Artest and Magette was a done deal but is now off the table since Magette can not pass a physical by the pacers dr.
 
Anyone else get the feeling that Walsh is just screwing with Artest? I am starting to believe he won't be playing at least the rest of the 05-06 season.
 
No, maggette has a torn tendon in his foot or something like that and he might have to have surgery. That's just throwing ron away if the guy they trade him for can't play and they turn another team into a contender.
 
VF21 said:
When are some of you going to realize that Ron Artest is NOT a hot commodity?

It could end up that Ron Artest goes NOWHERE and simply sits out the rest of this season.
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Maggette is pretty good for someone who is not a hot commodity then.

Fleeping physical! Hopefully he's cleared once he gets that cast off.
 
ESPN - The much-discussed trade that would send wayward forward Ron Artest from Indiana to Los Angeles for Clippers swingman Corey Maggette, believed to be on the verge of completion this week, has fizzled.

NBA front-office sources told ESPN.com on Thursday that the Pacers have abandoned their interest in Maggette because of concerns with his troublesome left foot.

The Clippers, sources said, will have to wait up to a month for the removal of Maggette's cast to determine if the 26-year-old can be reactivated or if an ongoing tendon problem will require season-ending surgery. Indiana, as a result, has elected not to pursue the deal, even though Maggette -- a rugged scorer known for getting to the free-throw line --- had been near the top of its wish list since the Pacers decided last month that they would honor Artest's public request to be traded.

ESPN.com reported Wednesday that the Golden State Warriors , along with the Clippers, were the frontrunners in the Artest sweepstakes, which will soon stretch into a sixth week. The latest Maggette development theoretically enhances Golden State's chances, but the Pacers covet power forward Ike Diogu and the Warriors considered the burly rookie an untouchable.
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http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/38665/20060112/maggette_for_artest_a_dead_deal/

Never really did think the Maggette deal was legit, and really don't see IKE being traded.
 
Can someone remind me again what the Kings have to lose by pursuing Artest? Come on, Petrie!!

I'm really really hoping that Petrie is just lowballing the Pacers with some poison pill of Williamson and Garcia or something like that, and we just haven't heard about it. If you look at the public statements, the only thing they're specific about is Peja for Artest isn't being discussed. Of course, this is just serious wishful thinking on my part.

Some people need to be talked off the ledge because the Kings are 14-20. I need to be talked off the ledge because the Kings don't seem to be pursuing one of the top players in the league.
 
nbrans said:
Can someone remind me again what the Kings have to lose by pursuing Artest? Come on, Petrie!!
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I would just say as bad as things are now....they could get worse. Even if the franchise could, for a moment set aside Artest's apparent insanity, who would Indiana want?? Bibby and Miller are the only true quality players on the roster.
 
G_M said:
I would just say as bad as things are now....they could get worse. Even if the franchise could, for a moment set aside Artest's apparent insanity, who would Indiana want?? Bibby and Miller are the only true quality players on the roster.
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Bonzi for Artest straight up works contractually and is "pre-approved" by JOneil. Gives them the player capable of playing defense they want who's partially overcome his "psych" image while here. For us "psych-wise" we'd be going from the frying pan to the fire with a similar type player as Bonzi but with 3 years left on his contract and not have to negotiate with Bonzi for a new one. You pay your money and take your chances.
 
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