Artest Punches Clock for Sacramento

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/story/397542p-336933c.html

Far from N.Y.,
Artest punches clock for Sacramento


If you're a Knick fan, Ron Artest is just another reason to hate the world. Here's this substantial, active body, performing great feats at both ends of the court, playing switching defense, singlehandedly turning around the Kings' season. The guy is a New Yorker, a Queens kid. And he wanted so badly to be a Knick, he'll still tell you how much the orange-and-blue uniform would have meant.

"Everybody and their mother knows it was my first choice," Artest was saying yesterday, before Sacramento thumped the Nets at the Meadowlands, 109-84. "Isiah (Thomas) said he didn't want to give up any of his young players. You know, like Channing Frye and those guys, they're pretty good.

"The fans wanted me to come," Artest said. "A lot of people come to New York scared to fail. You're playing against the fans, until you win. I take that as a challenge. A guy like Spree (Latrell Sprewell) got a lot of heat, he was able to weather the storm."

It might not have been such an easy transaction, of course. The Pacers wanted to send Artest west, get him out of their face. The Knicks didn't exactly have a roster filled with exciting trade bait. But with the right amount of crazy, obsessive enthusiasm, it might have happened - just maybe, just possibly. Then things surely would have been better at the Garden, because they can't be worse.

The Knicks take chances on everyone out of sheer desperation. They sign gunners, malcontents, health risks, whatever.

Come one, come all.

Then came this shot at Artest, and the Knicks never really got in the chase. Either Thomas has no eye for talent or, more likely, he has his limits when it comes to trouble. Thomas coached the guy, endured the nonsense, and it would be hard for him to step up and make a hard move on a gifted player who basically made his life miserable that last season in Indiana.

So Artest got away, if that's how you want to view things. He's playing for Rick Adelman, and he's playing in one of the smallest, most obscure markets in the league.

And right now, he's happy. Happy enough. Maybe this is the best place for him, far from the maddening crowd.

"It's been good so far," he said. "My teammates, they've been welcoming me with open hands."

The Kings are 11-7 since acquiring Artest, closing in on the Lakers for that eighth playoff spot. Much of this has been Artest, who was averaging 17.4 points before last night for the Kings, while performing his magic on defense. He held LeBron James to three points in the second half of a recent game. Opponents' average scores against Sacramento had dropped from 100.2 points per game, pre-Artest, to 93.9, post-Artest.

On Sunday in Washington, Artest had 30 points and five assists. He also had two more steals and three blocks, an all-court effort. Last night, playing with a hip pointer and clearly not at his best, Artest struggled at first to keep up with Richard Jefferson. This would be Mike Bibby's victory, not Artest's. But he kept plugging, scored 11 points in 31 minutes, had three assists, made a big steal in the second quarter off a Jason Kidd fast break that led to a Bibby three-pointer and a decisive Sacramento surge.

"He's made a huge impact defensively," Adelman said. "He takes on the better players, makes them work. He's a great team defender. He gave us new energy."

Adelman knew all about Artest, about the suspension for rushing foolishly into the stands in Auburn Hills. Like most coaches in such a situation, he chose to ignore history and start anew.

"It's the only way you can approach it," Adelman said. "I can't deal with what went on with him and another coach."

When Artest came to the Kings in exchange for Peja Stojakovic on Feb.26, Adelman sat him down and told his new player this relationship could go in two different directions, in a hurry. The team was at a crossroads, Adelman said, just like the player.

"I told him I would put the ball in his hands, call plays for him, make him make decisions," Adelman said.

Artest has held his temper, hasn't done anything stupid. He's just played this wonderful, kinetic brand of basketball.

Garden fans demand to know: Will he ever do this for the Knicks?

"That would be something else," Artest said.

Something else, anything else, would be better.

Originally published on March 7, 2006
 
This deal keeps getting better and better. NYK fans upset now...

Any word from LAL fans yet? Oh, wait, they'll be crying when we pip them for the play offs.
 
Knicks would still suck

he is much better of here in Sacramento

(keep feeding him those pills - anyways)
 
The highly ironic thing is that this article completely fails to mention that the Knicks could have drafted their hometown boy in the 1999 Draft, but failed to do so. Instead, they selected the immortal Frederick Weis from France with the 15th pick in the draft. This allowed the Chicago Bulls to select Artest with the 16th pick.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/1999/draft/draftboard/rounds/1.html

NOW THAT HAS TO GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE WORST DECISIONS IN RECENT NBA DRAFT HISTORY.

A history of the Knicks inept draft history:

http://nyfansonly.scout.com/2/95781.html

Before last year’s draft, highlighted by the blockbuster deal to bring Antonio McDyess to New York, 1999’s draft was by far the most infamous in recent history for the Knicks. The Knicks passed on hometown favorite Ron Artest, who is on his way to an All-Star career with New York’s nemesis, the Indiana Pacers. Worse yet, the player the Knicks selected, French center Frederic Weis, most famous for being posterized in the Olympics by Vince Carter, will never play in the NBA. Prior to the draft it was well known Weis had consistent back problems and he refused to allow Knick doctors to examine him. Yet the Knicks drafted him anyway. He remains in France, a symbol of the consistent draft woes that plague the Knicks.
 
Confession time: Was I the only one who read "Artest punches clock" and just for a second thought, "Oh no. A clock???"

;)

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Thanks for the Frederick Weis info, RR fan. I'm willing to bet the Knicks don't want to bring that up.
 
VF21 said:
Confession time: Was I the only one who read "Artest punches clock" and just for a second thought, "Oh no. A clock???"

;)

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Thanks for the Frederick Weis info, RR fan. I'm willing to bet the Knicks don't want to bring that up.

Strangely enough, I did not see it that way. Shame on me:o
 
Roch Royals Fan said:
The highly ironic thing is that this article completely fails to mention that the Knicks could have drafted their hometown boy in the 1999 Draft, but failed to do so. Instead, they selected the immortal Frederick Weis from France with the 15th pick in the draft. This allowed the Chicago Bulls to select Artest with the 16th pick.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/basketball/nba/1999/draft/draftboard/rounds/1.html

NOW THAT HAS TO GO DOWN AS ONE OF THE WORST DECISIONS IN RECENT NBA DRAFT HISTORY.

A history of the Knicks inept draft history:

http://nyfansonly.scout.com/2/95781.html

Before last year’s draft, highlighted by the blockbuster deal to bring Antonio McDyess to New York, 1999’s draft was by far the most infamous in recent history for the Knicks. The Knicks passed on hometown favorite Ron Artest, who is on his way to an All-Star career with New York’s nemesis, the Indiana Pacers. Worse yet, the player the Knicks selected, French center Frederic Weis, most famous for being posterized in the Olympics by Vince Carter, will never play in the NBA. Prior to the draft it was well known Weis had consistent back problems and he refused to allow Knick doctors to examine him. Yet the Knicks drafted him anyway. He remains in France, a symbol of the consistent draft woes that plague the Knicks.


From the same site:

And then there is the 2002 draft. On draft night the Knicks traded Marcus Camby, Mark Jackson, and their #7 pick Nene Hilario, to the Denver Nuggets for Antonio McDyess, the #25 pick Frank Williams, and a 2003 2nd round draft pick (which the Knicks might as well not even have accepted because if history repeats itself what are the chances of the Knicks getting a player that will be on the team come October 2003 anyway?). Things started to look up for the Knicks with a core of McDyess, Spreewell and Houston and an up and coming young point guard in Frank Williams. But then McDyess broke his kneecap in the preseason and was lost for the year. Even when the Knicks seem to do right they lose out.

Wow wow wow wowowow. They gave up Camby and Nene for McDyess? I know this is all retrospective and all, but wow. How bad does that hurt now?
 
VF21 said:
Confession time: Was I the only one who read "Artest punches clock" and just for a second thought, "Oh no. A clock???"

;)

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Thanks for the Frederick Weis info, RR fan. I'm willing to bet the Knicks don't want to bring that up.

lol... nope you're not..I cringed as soon as I saw "Artest punches" and relaxed slightly when I saw "clock". I mean, punching a clock, how bad could that be, right??:o
 
VF21 said:
Confession time: Was I the only one who read "Artest punches clock" and just for a second thought, "Oh no. A clock???"

;)

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Thanks for the Frederick Weis info, RR fan. I'm willing to bet the Knicks don't want to bring that up.

Not at all!:o
My heart stopped for a minute and thought, "Oh no!!! Everything was going so well. Now we are done for sure!" Then I read it and felt MUCH, MUCH better. Shame on me!!
 
Hasn't anybody realised yet that there was NO OTHER DEAL that Larry wanted than the one he got?! If we didn't trade him Peja how much would you want to bet that Artest would have sat the rest of the season out as a Pacer??? Larry even said Peja was the guy he had been trying to get for 2 years now.
 
Yeah NY...I'm sure it really makes ya'll feel so much better to think that Artest would really rather be there. And from this Kings fan in a small, obscure market...nyah, nyah, nah, nyah, nyah.;) :D
 
SacTownKid said:
Hasn't anybody realised yet that there was NO OTHER DEAL that Larry wanted than the one he got?! If we didn't trade him Peja how much would you want to bet that Artest would have sat the rest of the season out as a Pacer??? Larry even said Peja was the guy he had been trying to get for 2 years now.

That's not entirely true.... The Clippers were actively pursuing Corey Maggette, backed down because they were unsure of his knees. Peja was the next best choice.
 
Artest sure does want to be a Knick though.... gives me the impression he's gonna walk after the 2 years are up. We did manage to retain Webber so many the same can be done for Ron..... just not at the same price.
 
KingKong said:
That's not entirely true.... The Clippers were actively pursuing Corey Maggette, backed down because they were unsure of his knees. Peja was the next best choice.

I don't buy it, if they wanted Maggette they would've taken him he is already back and playing for cripes sake. Larry wanted Peja. Whether it was for his talent, his contract, or both I am positive he wanted Peja 1st, 2nd, and 3rd option.
 
VF21 said:
Confession time: Was I the only one who read "Artest punches clock" and just for a second thought, "Oh no. A clock???"

;)

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Thanks for the Frederick Weis info, RR fan. I'm willing to bet the Knicks don't want to bring that up.

Nope you're definately not. In fact, when I first saw the link on NBA.com I freaked out! But calmed down once I saw the article. I figured I'd preserve that intitial gut reaction and pass it on to my friends here at KingsFans.com. :D
 
KingKong said:
Artest sure does want to be a Knick though.... gives me the impression he's gonna walk after the 2 years are up. We did manage to retain Webber so many the same can be done for Ron..... just not at the same price.

I say we pay him what he wants to keep him. He is our best player, a true franchise player who we should do what we need to keep. He also isn't making what he is worth this year and next and should see a hefty increase in his salary anyways. A season isn't a whole calendar year, many players still have houses and family where they are originally from. Hopefully the community of Sacramento, the Kings, and the Maloofs can keep him happy. The Maloofs have lots of $, let's make this guy happy and keep him here in Sacto. I'm a believer in what I'm seeing with his presence.
 
KingKong said:
Artest sure does want to be a Knick though.... gives me the impression he's gonna walk after the 2 years are up. We did manage to retain Webber so many the same can be done for Ron..... just not at the same price.

Same here. Hopefully the brothers Maloof / GP will offer RA an extension. Throw in a bone to Bonzi. That and some good old fashioned WINS should give him great cause to stay in Sacto. Plus the Knicks management just sucks. Don't know their "A" from a hole in the ground.
 
Troy said:
I say we pay him what he wants to keep him. He is our best player, a true franchise player who we should do what we need to keep. He also isn't making what he is worth this year and next and should see a hefty increase in his salary anyways. A season isn't a whole calendar year, many players still have houses and family where they are originally from. Hopefully the community of Sacramento, the Kings, and the Maloofs can keep him happy. The Maloofs have lots of $, let's make this guy happy and keep him here in Sacto. I'm a believer in what I'm seeing with his presence.

Aren't you jumping the gun a little early here? This is exactly what all the pundits said would happen to us... that Artest would play his heart out, endearing himself to the fans, for the first few months, and then revert back to his old ways once he realizes that he has nothing to make up for anymore. I'm not ready to sign him to a large deal yet, if only because, lest we forget, IT'S RON ARTEST. I, like every Kings fan, has been swept up by Ron Fever, but I think we should back down before he shows that he can truly stay committed and motivated to our team for the long term. Just my thoughts.
 
Troy said:
I say we pay him what he wants to keep him. He is our best player, a true franchise player who we should do what we need to keep. He also isn't making what he is worth this year and next and should see a hefty increase in his salary anyways. A season isn't a whole calendar year, many players still have houses and family where they are originally from. Hopefully the community of Sacramento, the Kings, and the Maloofs can keep him happy. The Maloofs have lots of $, let's make this guy happy and keep him here in Sacto. I'm a believer in what I'm seeing with his presence.

I say we see how he performs over the next 2 years of his existing contract before we go signing max contract deal extentions....
 
kingkung said:
Aren't you jumping the gun a little early here? This is exactly what all the pundits said would happen to us... that Artest would play his heart out, endearing himself to the fans, for the first few months, and then revert back to his old ways once he realizes that he has nothing to make up for anymore. I'm not ready to sign him to a large deal yet, if only because, lest we forget, IT'S RON ARTEST. I, like every Kings fan, has been swept up by Ron Fever, but I think we should back down before he shows that he can truly stay committed and motivated to our team for the long term. Just my thoughts.

I couldn't possibly disagree more.

I was against him coming here but it wasn't my decision to make and I'm glad.

He is here, he's doing what he's supposed to do and he's clearly enjoying the chance to put his demons behind him.

The decision on BRINGING him here was the big one. You don't keep placing more decisions in his path IMHO. In for a penny, in for a pound.

The difference he has made in our team is more dramatic than anything I could possibly have imagined. You have to reward that and keep your fingers crossed that your initial hunch was right. You don't back off now...
 
VF21 said:
I couldn't possibly disagree more.

I was against him coming here but it wasn't my decision to make and I'm glad.

He is here, he's doing what he's supposed to do and he's clearly enjoying the chance to put his demons behind him.

The decision on BRINGING him here was the big one. You don't keep placing more decisions in his path IMHO. In for a penny, in for a pound.

The difference he has made in our team is more dramatic than anything I could possibly have imagined. You have to reward that and keep your fingers crossed that your initial hunch was right. You don't back off now...

The last Super Star we brought here, Webber, didn't want to stay either. Guess what when push came to shove, he stayed. He wanted to goto NY as well and play with Latrell, guess what it didn't happen.

If Artest pulls a TO on us, maybe it'll happen, but hopefully it won't. We will give Artest the money, I believe, b/c he is a franchise player. He does have his demons, all players do, but he has yet to show them here. Artest is a true impact player that we've lacked since Webber was 100% and Vlade was here.

If Artest wants to go after his time here, so be it, but hopefully the Maloofs will find a way to keep the guy. I hope were not being tricked, but I think the Kings offer something most teams can't. A great atmosphere for playing and some great owners. The fans are ultra loyal, the team is the only one in town. I hope he stays, we need him to stay. But we also have 2 years to test drive him out at a relatively cheap price for a top 15 player in the league. A very cheap price.
 
I'm confused. Are you agreeing with me? Disagreeing with me? Does your comment really relate to mine at all?

Help me out here...

;)

One point of clarification, however... Webber didn't want to leave Sacramento. He said he would have liked to play with Sprewell, but that he never seriously considered going anywhere else after what he found here. The hype about him going to Detroit and/or New York NEVER came from Webber, if you recall.
 
VF21 said:
I'm confused. Are you agreeing with me? Disagreeing with me? Does your comment really relate to mine at all?

Help me out here...

;)

One point of clarification, however... Webber didn't want to leave Sacramento. He said he would have liked to play with Sprewell, but that he never seriously considered going anywhere else after what he found here. The hype about him going to Detroit and/or New York NEVER came from Webber, if you recall.

What I am trying to refer to is yes, I think the experiment with Artest has been a success so far. I hope the Maloofs will do everything in their power to keep him. I'm pretty sure Webber wasn't 100% thrilled to come to Sacremento in the beginning but he learned to like it and eventually love it due to the great fans and teammates.

But if Artest does pull something dumb, which he has been known to do, and hopefully he doesn't, if he is absolutely dying to go to NY, we can't do much to stop him when he's a FA. But I think most of us are hoping he stays for a while. I think the Maloofs are hoping he stays to. He's brought interest back to the team in a huff.

There is no guarantee with any player to stay on a team. We of course don't have that guarantee with Ron. Ron get's to chose, we can always match, but if he doesn't want the contract, he doesn't have to take it, although we can give the most.

Now back to the most important stuff, we do need to keep him for the next couple of years if we hope to ever win a title. Getting a player of his caliber without getting a #1 overall pick or high lottery pick and trying to get a player through FA is almost fruitless for us. We need Artest b/c he is the star player that we've needed. Players like Artest just aren't very common. KEEP ARTEST.
 
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