arent you glad?

[vladetomiller]

Kings got lucky with Bonzi situation thats all. Petrie had nothing to do with it.

 

[GoGoGadget]

I guess I'm more than a little shocked that you think the solution to this problem would have been to give Bonzi MORE money, when he is now showing his true colors -- a mercurial, talented head case who wore out his welcome everywhere he's gone. The Kings got the very best of him, but that's not Bonzi.

Um... what?

Brick's only comment was that Petrie shouldn't be credited with the foresight to have seen that Bonzi's health/dedication would be in question this year. We made a very generous offer, Bonzi turned it down, we scrambled for a plan B, now all of a sudden Geoff Petrie is some genius swammy because he knew not to take a chance on Bonzi? Doesn't work that way.

 

[nbrans]

Um... what?

Brick's only comment was that Petrie shouldn't be credited with the foresight to have seen that Bonzi's health/dedication would be in question this year. We made a very generous offer, Bonzi turned it down, we scrambled for a plan B, now all of a sudden Geoff Petrie is some genius swammy because he knew not to take a chance on Bonzi? Doesn't work that way.

Um... what?

Here's what I said about the Petrie thing:

The Kings dodged a bullet. Plain and simple. It gets worse every day for Bonzi and the Rockets and looks better and better in retrospect. I'm not trying to give Petrie all the credit -- Bonzi at $38 million would have been a disaster, and you're right that that was in the cards. Petrie got lucky. But it would have been even more of a disaster if he were making $45 million, as you want.

 

[GoGoGadget]

Um... what?

Here's what I said about the Petrie thing:

I know. I read your whole post.

I'm still confused as to your assertion that Brick wanted to continue throwing money at Bonzi to make him stay. I, apparently, didn't see that post.

What I did see, however, was Brick's comment that Petrie shouldn't be given undeserved credit for sensing Bonzi's current injury situation, to which you responded with several accounts of how horrible we'd be right now if we'd kept him. All fine and dandy, but hasn't got a thing to do with Brick's original comment. Hence the confusion.

Looks more to me like arguing for the sake of arguing, and rather obviously so.

 

[nbrans]

I know. I read your whole post.

I'm still confused as to your assertion that Brick wanted to continue throwing money at Bonzi to make him stay. I, apparently, didn't see that post.

What I did see, however, was Brick's comment that Petrie shouldn't be given undeserved credit for sensing Bonzi's current injury situation, to which you responded with several accounts of how horrible we'd be right now if we'd kept him. All fine and dandy, but hasn't got a thing to do with Brick's original comment. Hence the confusion.

Looks more to me like arguing for the sake of arguing, and rather obviously so.

He does think that throwing more money at Bonzi was the right move!

Me: Or, what if he gave in to the $40+ million that some people around here said he should get?
Bricklayer: Hmm...let me think about that. Maybe we are better than a 14-17 crapfest?

If you're still confused about that, why don't you ask Bricklayer, not me, he's the one who suggested we'd be better off if we paid Bonzi $45 million.

 

[GoGoGadget]

He does think that throwing more money at Bonzi was the right move!

Me: Or, what if he gave in to the $40+ million that some people around here said he should get?
Bricklayer: Hmm...let me think about that. Maybe we are better than a 14-17 crapfest?

If you're still confused about that, why don't you ask Bricklayer, not me, he's the one who suggested we'd be better off if we paid Bonzi $45 million.

I read the same comments you did, but didn't see them as advocating overpaying to keep Bonzi as much as suggesting that our record could be better if he were still in purple. Maybe I'm the one who's wrong. In either case, I'm not going to expend a tremendous amount of energy in defending someone else's comments.

 

[VF21]

While there was a legitimate money offer on the table for Bonzi from the Kings, it reportedly came with some provisions in the contract that Bonzi simply would not agree to...

So, I still maintain that it could very easily be that Petrie had a sense of pending decline/doom about Bonzi.

 

[kennadog]

While there was a legitimate money offer on the table for Bonzi from the Kings, it reportedly came with some provisions in the contract that Bonzi simply would not agree to...

So, I still maintain that it could very easily be that Petrie had a sense of pending decline/doom about Bonzi.

That's more what I was thinking about. Supposedly the contract offer had some contingencies that were "unacceptable" to Bonzi and/or his agent. It was rumored that his weight was one of the contingencies. So apparently, even though GP gave him a very good offer, actually earning all of that money was going to depend on Bonzi meeting certain requirements.

 

[Kingzrool]

While there was a legitimate money offer on the table for Bonzi from the Kings, it reportedly came with some provisions in the contract that Bonzi simply would not agree to...

So, I still maintain that it could very easily be that Petrie had a sense of pending decline/doom about Bonzi.

I think that VF is right here. After Bonzi and his agent failed to contact GP for over a week or so, he smelt the bad milk and pulled the offer off of the table and signed Salmons in a move that brought on an onslought of critism. Most here were still hoping that Bonzi would accept the offer and were outraged at the Salmons signing. GP had the foresight to make his unpopular move and it seems that he made the right call. I think that VF is simply giving him his due credit for this.

 

[vladetomiller]

And while we are at it we also should credit Petrie for not trading up to draft Darko

 

[Venom]

Petrie was not the only guy who knew Bonzi was headed down this route, or who foresaw the emergence of Kevin Martin. . . But I don't want to toot my horn.

 

[Mr. S£im Citrus]

While there was a legitimate money offer on the table for Bonzi from the Kings, it reportedly came with some provisions in the contract that Bonzi simply would not agree to...

So, I still maintain that it could very easily be that Petrie had a sense of pending decline/doom about Bonzi.

I don't know... it comes across a little too much like spin doctoring to me: if Wells had just been a little less greedy, nobody'd be talking about what a "brilliant" move it was not to sign him... because Petrie was going to sign him.