Are the Maloofs taking too much heat for the Adelman firing?
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thesanityannex
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Adelman was gone at the end of the season. They had their minds made up already. Could they have done it in a more appealing manner, sure. Do they deserve all this heat, not so sure. People would have complained no matter how he was fired.
Bricklayer
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I think the Maloofs are responsible for most of the heat they have taken, but the amount of heat is ridiculous for such a move and could so easily have been avoided. Most of it coould have been avoided from the beginning of course, just by doing it right. But they certainly could have stepped up to the plate and limited the damage thereafter. But no, like some of their supporters on here, decided to avoid and deny, spin and duck, and turn what should have been clean into a PR fiasco.
They took what would have ben complaints about firing Adelman, bungled it into complaints about their crappy conduct in firing Adelman, and then compounded it further by then trying to lie, make excuses, and deny the whole thing was bungled in the first place. Nicely played.
Duh.
They took what would have ben complaints about firing Adelman, bungled it into complaints about their crappy conduct in firing Adelman, and then compounded it further by then trying to lie, make excuses, and deny the whole thing was bungled in the first place. Nicely played.
Duh.
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Yes. I am not pro-Maloof. I think they screwed up. But the way every sports reporter at the Bee is lining up to take a shot a them is beyond ridiculous and people are holding them to a higher standard than just about any other ownership group in the league (Cuban being the only other exception).
KingsChick
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Definitely yes. these past couple days have been... ahhhhh!
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Yes they are.
I don't even know if handling it better would have made any difference. I could see all the newspapers still ripping the Maloofs, probably for trying to look good while firing him.
The end result would have been the same, somebody would find something to complain about.
I don't even know if handling it better would have made any difference. I could see all the newspapers still ripping the Maloofs, probably for trying to look good while firing him.
The end result would have been the same, somebody would find something to complain about.
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SacKings384
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Well, that depends on how you interpret the question. Most of the people are not THAT angered that Rick was fired. Most are really dissapointed, but many peoples gripe is withthe class (or lack there of) that they did it with, and deservingly so. They deserve the flack not for the decision, but for the way that they did it.
Bricklayer
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pdxKingsFan said:
No, you know what, Cuban is a tool, have no love for him, but he treats his people right. Goes above and beyond for them in fact.
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thesanityannex
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I think many people have unfairly combined the two.SacKings384 said:
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209KingsFan
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Bricklayer said:
You mean like how he low-balled Steve Nash, watched him walk, and become a two-time MVP?
Or how he forced Nellie out the door because Avery Johnson was the hot, young coach that FINALLY taught his team to play defense?
Or how about the veteran and fan-favorite Michael Finley--he sure handled that situation in a classy way.
Give me a break--this is a business, and I support the Maloofs. Rick has made way too many mistakes without even TRYING to change his ways. We don't have a Princeton-offense type of team but yet he continues to try to utilize it. We need to get a coach who will use a team O/D that matches the skills of a Ron-Ron and a Bonzi; and I applaud the Maloofs for realizing that by watching Rick handle the Spurs series.
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209KingsFan
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I truly think a lot of you that are so upset are being naive to the fact that no firing is classy. They're all this way...are you upset because it was days after losing to the Spurs in a Game 6 in our home floor?
That wasn't really my point. My point was that Cuban is the only other owner that gets called out for this type of stuff regularly instead of blaming the GM. Yeah they are active owners but that doesn't mean they can't be fans and cheer or they can't follow normal protocol like having the GM actually hire or fire someone. The grief they are getting about the Peja deal is completely ridiculous, how many other owners would be expected to personally tell players they are being traded. Not one. I understand why people are mad and a lot of it is legitimate but the papers are out of control and they are loading up the bags and gasing the bus that will drive the Maloofs and this team straight out of Sacramento.Bricklayer said:
pdxKingsFan said:
Just a couple of points I don't really agree with:
1. The Peja thing is over/done. It's only being mentioned because of its similarity to recent events.
2. Team owners take heat from their local papers all the time. That won't drive the Maloofs out of town. If that was possible, the Giants would have left San Francisco a long time ago. The Raiders would never have come back to Oakland. Etc.
The line of distinction is, as GoGoGadget has pointed out in another thread, NOT that fans don't still like the team and aren't going to support them. It's that the owners have made some cheesy moves that make some of us - and the media - feel like we need to take a shower.
It will pass, most likely. The prevailing opinion is the whole thing could have been handled better. The Maloofs, I think, know this which is why they are dancing all over the place in their responses. I honestly believe they just don't know how to admit they may have made a mistake - NOT in the decision but in the handling of the situation.
Team owners take heat to a certain extent but the stuff being thrown the Maloofs way in the past few days is going beyond the business of basketball and getting personal and that is reserved for a very rare bunch - Cuban, Steinbrenner, Al Davis and the real jerks that turn their back on a city and fanbase like Art Modell, Georgia Frontieras (and Al Davis, repeatedly). I'm not saying they are entirely responsible but I do believe the Maloofs and Sacramento are already on shaky ground and this is the last thing we need right now.VF21 said:
I fully understand what you're saying.
The thing is that they should be held accountable. The problem is it's happening during the really dead part of TDOS when there's nothing else to distract people.
Having been a consumer of Sacramento media for a very long time - and I mean a LONG time - I'm sure they'll find a new topic of discussion fairly soon.
What the Maloofs really need to do now is find a competent replacement for Adelman ASAP and get him onboard. Get him talking about the future of the franchise, etc. Talk about plans for next year. Talk about wanting to bring the home town folks a truly competitive team, etc. You know, distract us with bright objects and hope.
The thing is that they should be held accountable. The problem is it's happening during the really dead part of TDOS when there's nothing else to distract people.
Having been a consumer of Sacramento media for a very long time - and I mean a LONG time - I'm sure they'll find a new topic of discussion fairly soon.
What the Maloofs really need to do now is find a competent replacement for Adelman ASAP and get him onboard. Get him talking about the future of the franchise, etc. Talk about plans for next year. Talk about wanting to bring the home town folks a truly competitive team, etc. You know, distract us with bright objects and hope.
VF21 said:What the Maloofs really need to do now is find a competent replacement for Adelman ASAP and get him onboard. Get him talking about the future of the franchise, etc. Talk about plans for next year. Talk about wanting to bring the home town folks a truly competitive team, etc. You know, distract us with bright objects and hope.
This is exactly what they need to do. ASAP
GoGoGadget
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VF21 said:
Hmmm... shiny things, eh...
How shiny are we talking?
Like, the pretty side of the tinfoil, or the dull side of the tinfoil?
GoGoGadget
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VF21 said:
That just might work, then.
I'm easily distracted by reflective surfaces.
I completely agree, except that depending on who they are looking at they won't be able to make an announcement or even interview for up to another 6 weeks. And I don't think they should be hasty on this. Its a total PR nightmare of their own doing and I just hope the personal attacks cool off and more articles are written about who the next coach could or should be rather than how evil and horrible they are. But we all know negative news sells the best.VF21 said:What the Maloofs really need to do now is find a competent replacement for Adelman ASAP and get him onboard. Get him talking about the future of the franchise, etc. Talk about plans for next year. Talk about wanting to bring the home town folks a truly competitive team, etc. You know, distract us with bright objects and hope.
GoGoGadget
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Timing is going to be tricky on the whole thing. There's a very fine line between hasty/rushed and unsure/directionless.
VERY fine.
VERY fine.
HndsmCelt
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Maloofs are public figures who chose to own a professional sports team. Fans as part of the pbulic are entitled to opinons and baring some recent changes, are essentialy entitled to voice their opinions. Therfore the Maloofs are fully entitled to all the heat they generate right or wrong, good or bad, based on fact inuendo or out right lies.
bozzwell
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Enough already of Maloof apologism even if it only implied!
They are being bagged on for the way they conducted the firing not because of firing.
And if I may add, the bungled firing and general shoddyness in dealing with Rick, is just a last straw for this Kings fan. I have lost any faith that I may have in Maloofs ability to build and maintain a Great Sports Franchise. They bought a basket-case baskteball franchise that never amounted to much in its North California history and turned it around in record time with help of players and personell that was top notch in either character or ability or both. All of those found the way out of Sacramento in less then ceremonial cisrumstances (except Mike Bibby and GP). The compound effect of all those exits and the way most of tehm were handled reached a point where questions were going to be asked anyway, but when the RA firing "by mutual consent" was botched up that was it for many fans and almost all sports writers. That was "it" for me.
What is this? Is it just business and they all had to go? And if yes, is this how it should have been handled? I cannot answer yes with 100% certainty to either question:
The exodus of former employees who built this franchise to what it is today continues. That's OK, that's just business. But what is alarming is the way all of them leave either miffed or what seems never to be back. Isn't it also a great business to tap into the pool of your former and longe serving players and employees and sometime overpay them to assure continuity (Miller in Indiana) or to build a circle of trusted advisers, professionals and executives (virtually any Great sports franchise does that)? If all these players and coaches are leaving Sacremento all steamed up about the way they are treated at the exit, where are our scouts, coaches and front office of teh future gonna come from? Vlade is scout for the Lakers, Webber is in Philly, RA, Turner and Carrill are gone and PO-ed. Even the lesser stars of years past are probably gone never to return (Pedja, DC, BJax...). Is this the corporate culture of Sacramento Kings: "Welcome, until we dump you like a ton of bricks"?
They are being bagged on for the way they conducted the firing not because of firing.
And if I may add, the bungled firing and general shoddyness in dealing with Rick, is just a last straw for this Kings fan. I have lost any faith that I may have in Maloofs ability to build and maintain a Great Sports Franchise. They bought a basket-case baskteball franchise that never amounted to much in its North California history and turned it around in record time with help of players and personell that was top notch in either character or ability or both. All of those found the way out of Sacramento in less then ceremonial cisrumstances (except Mike Bibby and GP). The compound effect of all those exits and the way most of tehm were handled reached a point where questions were going to be asked anyway, but when the RA firing "by mutual consent" was botched up that was it for many fans and almost all sports writers. That was "it" for me.
What is this? Is it just business and they all had to go? And if yes, is this how it should have been handled? I cannot answer yes with 100% certainty to either question:
The exodus of former employees who built this franchise to what it is today continues. That's OK, that's just business. But what is alarming is the way all of them leave either miffed or what seems never to be back. Isn't it also a great business to tap into the pool of your former and longe serving players and employees and sometime overpay them to assure continuity (Miller in Indiana) or to build a circle of trusted advisers, professionals and executives (virtually any Great sports franchise does that)? If all these players and coaches are leaving Sacremento all steamed up about the way they are treated at the exit, where are our scouts, coaches and front office of teh future gonna come from? Vlade is scout for the Lakers, Webber is in Philly, RA, Turner and Carrill are gone and PO-ed. Even the lesser stars of years past are probably gone never to return (Pedja, DC, BJax...). Is this the corporate culture of Sacramento Kings: "Welcome, until we dump you like a ton of bricks"?
bozzwell said:
Oddly enough, that's exactly how I feel about Dr. and Mrs. York, the current owners of the San Francisco 49ers. And, believe it or not, I can still root as much as ever for my 49ers ... I just don't hold out much hope for them to ever regain the glory they had when Eddie DeBartolo was the owner.
Bricklayer
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GoGoGadget said:
True, but after all this, the most important thing is that they get it right now. A mistake hiring would be...bad.
KingKong
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In the words of beloved Bobby, "most definately". Do I like the way they handled the situation?.... hell no. Are they catching to much flak for it... yep. They are trying to make the team better. If the team is brought back to elitness next season, people will be hanging off the bandwagon, that's how full it would be. If they are not, then I will still cheer and support the team and franchise.
