Anyone else see this trade rumor today? wish the kings could get in on it

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here is the quote from the ESPN 1320 facebook page

"How about this trade rumor? Gasol and Bynum leaving the Lakers.

Dwight Howard & Al Harrington to LA, Pau Gasol & Aaron Afflalo to Orlando, Andrew Bynum to 76ers & Iguodala to Denver. Thoughts?"

too bad the kings couldn't take Denvers place in this trade. get Iguadola and give up maybe salmons and someone else.
 
#2
here is the quote from the ESPN 1320 facebook page

"How about this trade rumor? Gasol and Bynum leaving the Lakers.

Dwight Howard & Al Harrington to LA, Pau Gasol & Aaron Afflalo to Orlando, Andrew Bynum to 76ers & Iguodala to Denver. Thoughts?"

too bad the kings couldn't take Denvers place in this trade. get Iguadola and give up maybe salmons and someone else.


Ya, I'm sure the Magic wouldn't mind getting Salmons and someone else instead of Iguodala. You should send Geoff an email.
 
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Ya, I'm sure the Magic wouldn't mind getting Salmons and someone else instead of Iguodala. You should send Geoff an email.
the quote had magic getting pau and afflalo not iguodala. so if we took denver's spot, magic would get pau and salmons. either way i dont know if we have the pieces but i agree if it only took 3rd/4th tier players like afflalo and harrington to get iggy, i would like to be part of it.
 
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here is the quote from the ESPN 1320 facebook page

"How about this trade rumor? Gasol and Bynum leaving the Lakers.

Dwight Howard & Al Harrington to LA, Pau Gasol & Aaron Afflalo to Orlando, Andrew Bynum to 76ers & Iguodala to Denver. Thoughts?"

too bad the kings couldn't take Denvers place in this trade. get Iguadola and give up maybe salmons and someone else.
So, who would you want? Bynumb?
 
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the quote had magic getting pau and afflalo not iguodala. so if we took denver's spot, magic would get pau and salmons. either way i dont know if we have the pieces but i agree if it only took 3rd/4th tier players like afflalo and harrington to get iggy, i would like to be part of it.

My mistake, but it's still just dumb. Magic would not prefer Salmons and someone else over Afflalo and Harrington, and whatever way you rearrange the players, it just wouldn't make sense.
 
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So, who would you want? Bynumb?
he states it in his post we would get iggy. if we took denver's place

Lakers get dwight howard + kings player (instead of harrington)
Magic get pau gasol and john salmons (instead of afflalo)
76ers get andrew bynum
Kings (taking denvers place) get iguodala

i believe that is the proposed trade if the kings took denvers spot like the OP stated, now who that kings player would be that goes to the lakers i dont know
 
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the quote had magic getting pau and afflalo not iguodala. so if we took denver's spot, magic would get pau and salmons. either way i dont know if we have the pieces but i agree if it only took 3rd/4th tier players like afflalo and harrington to get iggy, i would like to be part of it.
exactly the point im trying to make. if this trade is real, Denver is only giving up Afflalo and Harrington for Iggy. im sure the Kings could have found a way to trade 2 players that the magic and lakers would be just as happy with
 
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So, who would you want? Bynumb?
your not getting it dude. we would take DENVERS place in the trade. in this rumored trade they give up Harrington/Afflalo and recieve Iguadola. so we could replace denver. therefor we give up 2 players (for all i care give up any 2 besides IT,Reke,Thornton,DMC) and we get Iggy in return
 
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he states it in his post we would get iggy. if we took denver's place

Lakers get dwight howard + kings player (instead of harrington)
Magic get pau gasol and john salmons (instead of afflalo)
76ers get andrew bynum
Kings (taking denvers place) get iguodala

i believe that is the proposed trade if the kings took denvers spot like the OP stated, now who that kings player would be that goes to the lakers i dont know
Cisco and Harrington have about the same salary so that could work.
 
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except for the fact nobody wants Cisco. and im assuming LA would want a PF (like Harrington) to somewhat replace Gasol. so maybe Hayes (they probably would want Hayes at all) so maybe JT
 

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he states it in his post we would get iggy. if we took denver's place

Lakers get dwight howard + kings player (instead of harrington)
Magic get pau gasol and john salmons (instead of afflalo)
76ers get andrew bynum
Kings (taking denvers place) get iguodala

i believe that is the proposed trade if the kings took denvers spot like the OP stated, now who that kings player would be that goes to the lakers i dont know
I think that if we were to do something like this that Thornton would inevitable be involved. Under the original terms (in black) it would look something like this, where I'm assuming that Harrington is a salary dump and Afflalo is a desirable player. I've added in the red players to make it work under the cap, explained below.

Lakers out: Bynum (16.5) Gasol (19+15%trade kick = 21.9)
Lakers in: Howard (19.3), Salmons (8.1), Clark (1.2)

Magic out: Howard (19.3), Duhon (3.7), Clark (1.2)
Magic in: Gasol (21.9), Thornton (7.6)

Philly out: Iguodala (14.7)
Philly in: Bynum (16.5)

Kings out: Thornton (7.6), Salmons (8.1)
Kings in: Iguodala (14.7), Duhon (3.7)

Now under that scenario, the Magic are the only ones who don't work under the cap rules. The Magic would have to send out $23.5M to get Gasol and Thornton, so they're 4.2 short. They could fix that by sending Glen Davis (6.4) or J.J. Redick (6) to the Lakers (who could swallow either salary under the cap rules) or by sending off Chris Duhon (3.7) and Earl Clark (1.2) somewhere.

Then the question is whether everybody does this.

From our point of view, Duhon doesn't do us much good. Iguodala takes over at the 3, with Tyreke getting the majority of the minutes at the 2. Overall, this costs us about 2.7M the first year, about 4.2M the second year, and "saves" us 9.7M the third year (but we'd have to bring Iggy back, presumably). I think this is a no-brainer for us.

The Lakers get Howard. They have to give up both Gasol and Bynum, and eat Salmons' contract for 2+ years (and Earl Clark's for 1) but I think they do this to get their next superstar.

The Sixers swap Iggy for Bynum. Given that their frontline is Hawes/Kwame/Vucevic/Moultrie, I don't see how they could turn this deal down.

That leaves the Magic, who get Gasol and Thornton for the obviously departing Howard, and dump a few not-terribly-useful contracts in the deal. I think they do it.

So in isolation, I think every team does this deal. But the question is whether with Denver involved the pieces (Harrington/Afflalo) are more desirable than the Thornton/Salmons we could offer. I don't know. But the framework of the deal, with either us or Denver in the mix, looks workable.
 

Bricklayer

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guys...

Salmons =/= Afflalo
Garcia =/= Harrington


Those teams didn't just arrive by those names by accident. If you wanted to slide in two realistic names it wouwd be Thornton (as the young SG to Orlando) and Hayes (as the veteran big to the Lakers).
 

Bricklayer

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as much as i like Thornton, ill take that deal because Iggy is awesome, and i hate Hayes
C - Cousins
PF - Thompson, Robinson
SF - Iggy, Johnson
SG - Evans, Salmons
PG - Brooks, Thomas

Deep Bench -- Outlaw, Cisco, Jimmer, Honeycutt

You would need to sign another big (Darnell?) and depend on Robinson not doing whatever he was doing in Summer League, but you would have better balance, and a defensive strong point at SF.
 

Glenn

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When was the first time a trade involving Thornton to get Iggy surfaced? Seems like eons ago. No matter what teams are involved and if we give up another SF in the process, I would be thrilled. The SF position suddenly becomes a position of strength AND the players fit. This can't be the Kings. :)
 
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ya its just too bad that Denver is jumpin in on it while im sure the Maloofs and Petrie are sitting at home not making any calls. they are done for the offseason
 
#19
ya its just too bad that Denver is jumpin in on it while im sure the Maloofs and Petrie are sitting at home not making any calls. they are done for the offseason
Well, I guess since you say so, it's true. I love when people speak in absolutes as if they actually have any grasp on whats really happening.:rolleyes:
 
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guys...

Salmons =/= Afflalo
Garcia =/= Harrington


Those teams didn't just arrive by those names by accident. If you wanted to slide in two realistic names it wouwd be Thornton (as the young SG to Orlando) and Hayes (as the veteran big to the Lakers).
salmons or thornton would be the closest as a sub for afflalo but it depends what the magic are looking for. if it's a defensive sg/sf that "can" hit the 3 on a shorter contract, it should be salmons. but since afflalo is younger and on a longer contract, they are probably looking at a up and coming younger player on a good contract so i agree thornton is more realistic, unless they dont want an all offense no defense sg. the harrington replacement is the harder one. do the lakers go for a replacement big even though his contract is longer or is harrington just a salary dump. hayes fits the big role but his contract might be too much for the lakers who are in the luxury tax. garcia fits the salary dump role but he isnt a big. this is really a trade i could get on board with, but i just dont know if we have the pieces. i wonder if petrie could conjure up some of that good ol' gm magic and get us in the trade talks.
 

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Those teams didn't just arrive by those names by accident. If you wanted to slide in two realistic names it wouwd be Thornton (as the young SG to Orlando) and Hayes (as the veteran big to the Lakers).
Didn't even think about Hayes as the Vet big. That deal (Hayes/Thornton) probably goes off better for the Lakers and Magic than the Denver Harrington/Afflalo construction. Financially and from a team construction point of view, it's harder on us (especially if we're absorbing Duhon as I suggested above). I think under those parameters we'd have to insist the absorption goes elsewhere, and hope that Darnell on a vet min contract can hold down big #4 and Robinson can hold down big #3. I think I'd do it, though.
 
#23
Since when does Salmons have trade value? Just because a player we don't want plays the same position as another player in a trade doesn't mean you can just automatically switch them and the other team would be happy.

Afflalo and Harrington are both way better players than Salmons and Garcia at this point.

You have to give up players to get them.
 
#24
ya your still not reading it right bro

I'm pretty sure you're the one who didn't write it right, bro. You didn't name names, just an imaginary swap of players that would land us Iggy. Then you go on to say this can be done without the inclusion of IT, 'Reke, Thornton and DMC. Bravo!

Hooray for well thought-out posts.
 
#25

Well, I guess since you say so, it'strue. I love when people speak in absolutes as if they actually have any graspon whats really happening.
The poor product on our court plus the fact that we seldomly see the name of Sacramento Kings mentioned in this kind of hard to consumate trades speaks a lot of how hard our GM(Petrie) works.


Our GM is incredibly busy (doing I don't know what) to be involved in this kind of trades. He is probably busy trying hard to hide what is on his mind from the media that other GMs hardly know what he wants and what he can offer. It seems he is oftentimes an outcast beuase he is so introverted.

 
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well the trade is complete and LA didnt even have to give up Gasol. now they have Nash/Kobe/Gasol/Howard in the starting lineup. GREAT. must be nice to always be able to stack your team through FA and bull**** trades. god i hate the Lakers
 
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your an idiot. you obviously didnt read it write. and i didnt put an imaginary swap of players, i put a direct quote from ESPN you idiot. and guess what, the trade just happened! so it must have been a pretty legit quote

The ironing is delicious. You should probably learn some basic comprehension skills, as well as some grammar and punctuation, before you call someone else an idiot. Just to humour you, and to point out how incredibly stupid your posts are, I will explain in simple terms what was wrong with your original post, and what I was previously referring to:

You stated we should give up Salmons and someone else (who is this mystery someone else? Name them since you're excluding our best trading assets), in place of Denver's players, ie. Afflalo and Harrington. Not only is this borderline mentally disabled due to it's suggestion that Salmons and an un-named player is better than Afflalo and Harrington, it's lazy and completely typical of your aggressive, knee-jerk style of posting which seems to be based on the principle of not thinking anything through, and suggesting trades that are so overwhelmingly biased towards the Kings that they don't even warrant a response.

Secondly, nowhere did I state that the link you provided wasn't legit, nor did I say that the trade wouldn't happen. I was strictly talking about your suggestion of the Kings taking Denver's place in the trade, which is just silly. Clearly you are the one here who is struggling to read at the level of an adult.

Now that you've been shown how idiotic your OP and responses have been, please refrain from responding unless you're going to show an IQ above a single digit.
 
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