An Offense Built Around Hawes

What we need is a version of the 2001-2002 Chris Webber to pair up with Hawes...

Someone thats a stud athlete and will pick up the slack for Hawes on defense and offense.

I dont know if a Big Ben is the answer. but we've never had a just defensive PF
so who knows?
 
Said it before, will say it again: Hire Vlade as big man coach/European scout.

BINGO! I really like that idea. If they can't get Vlade, they need some other legit retired big man to help. I'd love to get Walton to be able to tutor the guy in the off-season. He may not be able to announce, but he really knows the game.
 
Look, you're obviously a fanboy of his. That's a perjorative, but also handy shorthand for an enthusiastic see no evil type of player fan. And that's fine -- seems every player develops their own. But I am getting tired of these primitive attempts to distort for whatever the agenda is of the moment.

I didn't say I wanted an Oden/Hawes composite -- YOU said I said that. I merely pointed out the fact that rebounders rebound, and your age excuse is just that -- an excuse. You didn't like the focus being taken off the traits you want to promote for those you would like to ignore, and so bam, distort away. Its silly. You were the one who intorduced the rebounding issue into what could have been just an over the top proposal about Spenser's offense. So, deal. Tyrant did the more rational job of trying to address that issue, and we will see. This is the time of year when every kid's numbers look great, the time when last year Justin Williams, now out of the league, was racking up big numbers. So we will see. (and of course the normal factor with short minute guys that the only time they get the big minutes is when they are playing well, so of course their big minute games look good). I have no doubt Spencer can score, but can he rebound, night in an night out, as a starter, over the course of a full season?

And yes, while I am busy sobbing about his rebounding, you can be busy off chasing championship rainbows with your non-rebounding non-defending center. Been oh so many of those let me tell you. On the plus side Kareem managed to do it in his aging days in the 80s. So just as soon as Hawes is as good as Kareem and we acquire a Magic Johnson and James Worthy to team with him, we are set.

And BTW "great offensive center" is always synonymous with "great post player", in particular in a player who does not look to be your anchor on the other end of the court. This is why they are referred to as "centers" as opposed to guards. Be one thing if he did not have any talent down there. But he does. What he lacks is shot selection and dedication. You are desperate to talk him into being great? Fine. At least recognize where that potential lies. Not as Brian Cook. As Kevin McHale.

You're like the guy who'se not interested in the brown eyed 36-24-36 beauty because she has a mole on her face. Personally, I'd go out with Cindy Crawford any day.

I think you're going to have to deal with the fact that he's never going to be a great rebounder/defender, just a great offensive talent who will make others around him much better. That's a rough thing deal with. :D He'll average about 8 rebs a game. So like I said before, get a good rebounder/defender at the pf position to complement him. It's not brain surgery. Two complementary pieces.

How can you possibly say he lacks, "dedication"? What are you talking about? I've never heard an inkling that he lacked a work ethic. Just the opposite. He's going to be fine on D. At least as good as Miller (when he's been in shape). And he won't fit into the tiny box that you've made for him so you will continue to be dissatisfied with him, while he continues to improve and become an excellent offensive player.
 
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