A little perspective

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
It's gloomy around here a lot of the time, and with good reason. But here are a few things to help put it all into perspective:

Lakers salary: $100M
Kings salary: $57.9M

Lakers roster:
Prior to NBA/Country
5Steve BlakeG6-317202/26/1980Maryland/USA
24Kobe BryantG6-620508/23/1978Lower Merion HS (PA)/USA
6Earl ClarkF6-1022501/17/1988Louisville/USA
21Chris DuhonG6-119008/31/1982Duke/USA
3Devin EbanksF6-921510/28/1989West Virginia/USA
16Pau GasolF-C7-025007/06/1980FC Barcelona/Spain
27Jordan HillC6-1023507/27/1987Arizona/USA
12Dwight HowardC6-1126512/08/1985SW Atlanta Christian Academy (GA)/USA
4Antawn JamisonF6-923506/12/1976North Carolina/USA
7Darius Johnson-OdomG6-221509/28/1989Marquette/USA
20Jodie MeeksG6-420808/21/1987Kentucky/USA
1Darius MorrisG6-419001/03/1991Michigan/USA
10Steve NashG6-317802/07/1974Santa Clara/Canada
50Robert SacreC7-026006/06/1989Gonzaga/USA
15Metta World PeaceF6-726011/13/1979St. John's/USA

[TH="class: roster-num"]Num[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-player"]Player[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-pos"]Pos[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-ht"]Ht[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-wt"]Wt[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-dob"]DOB[/TH]

[TH="class: roster-yrs"]Yrs[/TH]

[TD="class: yrs"]9[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]16[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]3[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]8[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]11[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]3[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]8[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]14[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]R[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]3[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]16[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]R[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]13[/TD]

Kings roster:

Prior to NBA/Country
3Aaron BrooksG6-016101/14/1985Oregon/USA
15DeMarcus CousinsC6-1127008/13/1990Kentucky/USA
13Tyreke EvansG6-622009/19/1989Memphis/USA
7Jimmer FredetteG6-219502/25/1989Brigham Young/USA
32Francisco GarciaF-G6-719512/31/1980Louisville/Dominican Republic
42Chuck HayesF-C6-625006/11/1983Kentucky/USA
9Tyler HoneycuttF6-818807/15/1990UCLA/USA
52James JohnsonF6-924802/20/1987Wake Forest/USA
25Travis OutlawF6-920709/18/1984Starkville HS (MS)/USA
0Thomas RobinsonF6-1023703/17/1991Kansas/USA
5John SalmonsF-G6-620712/12/1979Miami (Fla.)/USA
22Isaiah ThomasG5-918502/07/1989Washington/USA
34Jason ThompsonF6-1125007/21/1986Rider/USA
23Marcus ThorntonG6-420506/05/1987Louisiana State/USA

[TH="class: roster-num"]Num[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-player"]Player[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-pos"]Pos[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-ht"]Ht[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-wt"]Wt[/TH]
[TH="class: roster-dob"]DOB[/TH]

[TH="class: roster-yrs"]Yrs[/TH]

[TD="class: yrs"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]2[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]3[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]7[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]7[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]3[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]9[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]R[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]10[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]1[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]4[/TD]

[TD="class: yrs"]3[/TD]

Lakers current record: 14-15
Kings current record: 9-19

So basically, the Lakers are spending $42.1M more this year, have at least 3 future HoF candidates on their roster and still only have 5 more wins than the Kings?
 
Yeah but the Lakers will end up winning 47 games, make the playoffs, and have a chance if everything comes together at the right time. Meanwhile, we will finish 26-56 and be talking about who we are going to draft with the 5th pick. :mad:
 
I see what you're trying to do here, VF21, and it's a nice thought originally. But bump this again at the end of the season and we'll see how close the records are :p
 
Is this thread suppose to make us Kings' fans happy?

I don't get it.

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I see what you're trying to do here, VF21, and it's a nice thought originally. But bump this again at the end of the season and we'll see how close the records are :p

It's not about the final record. For me it's more about the fact that while we're unhappy, Laker fans are frothing at the mouth. It gives me comfort. :)
 
It's not about the final record. For me it's more about the fact that while we're unhappy, Laker fans are frothing at the mouth. It gives me comfort. :)

It has been shown through social psychological studies that the saying "misery loves company" is not quite true. The data instead more accurately supports "misery loves miserbable company," and "misery hates happy company."

You provide an excellent example of it.

I have maintained that my 2 favorite teams in the NBA are:

1) The Kings
2) whoever is playing the Lakers
 
At the risk of playing Donny Downer, here is a little more perspective:


[TABLE="class: sortable stats_table"]
[TR]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center"]No.[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]Player[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]Pos[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Ht[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Wt[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]Birth Date[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Exp[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]College[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Michael Beasley[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]235[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]January 9, 1989[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Kansas State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Shannon Brown[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]205[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 29, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Michigan State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Goran Dragic[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]180[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 6, 1986[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jared Dudley[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]225[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 10, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Boston College[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Diante Garrett[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]190[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 3, 1988[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Iowa State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Marcin Gortat[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C-F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]240[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]February 17, 1984[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wesley Johnson[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]205[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 11, 1987[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Syracuse University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Kendall Marshall[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]195[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]August 19, 1991[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of North Carolina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Markieff Morris[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]September 2, 1989[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Kansas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jermaine O'Neal[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F-C[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]226[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]October 13, 1978[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luis Scola[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 30, 1980[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Sebastian Telfair[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]165[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 9, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]P.J. Tucker[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]225[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 5, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Texas at Austin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]40[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luke Zeller[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 7, 1987[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Notre Dame[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Suns' salary: $51.6M ($6.5M under the cap)
Suns' All-Stars: none
Suns' Hall Of Famers: none
Suns' record: 11-18

This galls me because the Suns, from my point of view, seem to be built eerily like the Kings (Skilled big-check. Dynamic guard who can't shoot-check. Soft, jump-shooting roleplayers-check. Can't defend-check. Beat like a drum on the glass-check). And yet, they, at least, seem to have some sort of identity, and look like they might have some sort of general ideal of what direction they want to move in. And, as bad as they are, they're still better than us. That leave a bad taste in my mouth.
 
Another fun fact: The Kings won their last four games against the Lakers (three in the preseason, one in the regular season).
 
Another fun fact: The Kings won their last four games against the Lakers (three in the preseason, one in the regular season).

4 out of the last 5 they smashed us when Cousins was suspended in between the 3 pre-season wins and the 1 win we got
 
At the risk of playing Donny Downer, here is a little more perspective:


[TABLE="class: sortable stats_table"]
[TR]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center"]No.[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]Player[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]Pos[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Ht[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Wt[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]Birth Date[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Exp[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]College[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Michael Beasley[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]235[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]January 9, 1989[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Kansas State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Shannon Brown[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]205[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 29, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Michigan State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Goran Dragic[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]180[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 6, 1986[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jared Dudley[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]225[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 10, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Boston College[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Diante Garrett[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]190[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 3, 1988[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Iowa State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Marcin Gortat[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C-F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]240[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]February 17, 1984[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wesley Johnson[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]205[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 11, 1987[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Syracuse University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Kendall Marshall[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]195[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]August 19, 1991[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of North Carolina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Markieff Morris[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]September 2, 1989[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Kansas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jermaine O'Neal[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F-C[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]226[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]October 13, 1978[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luis Scola[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 30, 1980[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Sebastian Telfair[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]165[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 9, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]P.J. Tucker[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]225[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 5, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Texas at Austin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]40[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luke Zeller[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 7, 1987[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Notre Dame[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Suns' salary: $51.6M ($6.5M under the cap)
Suns' All-Stars: none
Suns' Hall Of Famers: none
Suns' record: 11-18

This galls me because the Suns, from my point of view, seem to be built eerily like the Kings (Skilled big-check. Dynamic guard who can't shoot-check. Soft, jump-shooting roleplayers-check. Can't defend-check. Beat like a drum on the glass-check). And yet, they, at least, seem to have some sort of identity, and look like they might have some sort of general ideal of what direction they want to move in. And, as bad as they are, they're still better than us. That leave a bad taste in my mouth.

And they started their rebuild a whole lot later than us. It wasn't that long ago they were one of the top teams in the West, only about 4-5 years ago. As for us ...
 
At the risk of playing Donny Downer, here is a little more perspective:


[TABLE="class: sortable stats_table"]
[TR]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: center"]No.[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]Player[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip, align: center"]Pos[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Ht[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Wt[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]Birth Date[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: right"]Exp[/TH]
[TH="class: tooltip sort_default_asc, align: left"]College[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]0[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Michael Beasley[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]235[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]January 9, 1989[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Kansas State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]26[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Shannon Brown[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]205[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 29, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Michigan State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Goran Dragic[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]180[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 6, 1986[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]3[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jared Dudley[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]225[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 10, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Boston College[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]10[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Diante Garrett[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]190[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]November 3, 1988[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Iowa State University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]4[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Marcin Gortat[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C-F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]240[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]February 17, 1984[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Wesley Johnson[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-7[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]205[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]July 11, 1987[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]2[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Syracuse University[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]12[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Kendall Marshall[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-4[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]195[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]August 19, 1991[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of North Carolina[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]11[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Markieff Morris[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-10[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]September 2, 1989[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Kansas[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]20[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Jermaine O'Neal[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F-C[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]226[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]October 13, 1978[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]16[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]14[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luis Scola[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-9[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 30, 1980[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]5[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]31[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Sebastian Telfair[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]G[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-0[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]165[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]June 9, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]8[/TD]
[TD="align: left"][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]17[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]P.J. Tucker[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]F[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-5[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]225[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]May 5, 1985[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]1[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Texas at Austin[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD="align: center"]40[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]Luke Zeller[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]C[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]6-11[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]245[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]April 7, 1987[/TD]
[TD="align: right"]R[/TD]
[TD="align: left"]University of Notre Dame[/TD]
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Suns' salary: $51.6M ($6.5M under the cap)
Suns' All-Stars: none
Suns' Hall Of Famers: none
Suns' record: 11-18

This galls me because the Suns, from my point of view, seem to be built eerily like the Kings (Skilled big-check. Dynamic guard who can't shoot-check. Soft, jump-shooting roleplayers-check. Can't defend-check. Beat like a drum on the glass-check). And yet, they, at least, seem to have some sort of identity, and look like they might have some sort of general ideal of what direction they want to move in. And, as bad as they are, they're still better than us. That leave a bad taste in my mouth.

They don't have Keith Smart.
 
Reposting this because I know it will show up more on this thread.

Greatest preseason moment of all time.

Smiling from ear to ear!

No doubt. This was the best NBA rivalry in a long time. I was watching this game with my brother and dad when it happened. Crazy everyone was so impassioned back then.
 
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