A controversial article on Casspi:

[Bricklayer]

I'm very much looking forward to a better Omri next year, and everyone understanding their role better in general.

When will we know if May's been released, together with Udoka etcetc?

Think those guys were just on one year contracts, so they are alreayd free agents now and will be unless we choose to resign them.

Sounded in one of those latter games as if Westphal would not mind having Brockman and Udoka back as a hardwork/defense 11th/12th man hardhat duo helping set a tone in practice and being avaiulable as spot players in games, but we will have to see.

 

[D13]

let me get this straight... not only do Omri's "people" feel they can put the weight of a country on him, they are gonna put it on us as well with backhanded interviews and cheap shots in the media...

I hope the best selecting Omri, but this isn't the type of distraction a young developing team needs. If this continues, I'm fine with sending him to where the grass is greener for the right price...

 

[Widowmaker2k]

you gotta be kidding ,greene?.

and no casspi didnt say those thing
he sayed he want to stay in sacrmento kings in the future

Well, this is off topic, and may be split from this thread, but I'll take Greene 10 times out of 10. I really like Omri Casspi, especially his heart and desire to win, but Donté is a 6'11" physical specimen who showed great improvement this year. Omri Casspi has the potential to be a Hedo/Manu hybrid (though doubtfully as good as either) in this league, but Donté can be truly special. He's shown the ability to play some 2 guard, which is incredible at his size, and can be a lock down defender. It's very rare for a player to posses his combination of height, length, athleticism, and quickness. I actually can't think of a single player in this league that matches him in that regard (maybe Odom?). He has all of the tools to be a real star in this league. He hasn't put them together yet, of course, but if he does, he could be a household name in the league.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

the writer wrote Martin "looked contemplative as if he were completely somewhere else." while he was watching Tyreke hit those free throws for the 23rd and 24th pts. Please...... Martin was actually animated and walked over to talk to Tyreke.

 

[Casspi]

ROFL
The www.haaretz.com newspaper is a newspaper for hippies
i have never seen casspi saying he wants to go to anther team

 

[The Hammer]

let me get this straight... not only do Omri's "people" feel they can put the weight of a country on him, they are gonna put it on us as well with backhanded interviews and cheap shots in the media...

I hope the best selecting Omri, but this isn't the type of distraction a young developing team needs. If this continues, I'm fine with sending him to where the grass is greener for the right price...

Please. Are you serious? Please learn to exercise a basic level of critical thinking and realize that the writer is a brain damaged individual. Please. You can't be serious.

 

[SuperPowerMultiPly]

I don't understand it, you people haven't read what i wrote?

This is what Casspi said in relation to the possibility that the kings will trade him because of his bad last two months:

Q: There's any chance you will return(next season) only to move to your next stop?
A: "Anything could happen, after gaining 1 year of experience, i think i'm able to play for any team, including the senior ones".

And this is what the reporter translated later to english:

The forward also hinted to the press: "I'm ready for a bigger team."

Omri didn't said anything! end of story, you people are getting mad only because of a stupid reporter trying to get some attention.

 

[Rookie]

SPM(short for Superpowermultiply)
Don't get so mad....most of us don't agreed with the article even before you posted a more detail interview. After you posted the interview, we're really glad to see that he will be working hard to improve his game.

Casspi is loved by many Sacramento Kings fans, we hope he'll improved next year just as much as Donte and every other young guys on the roster.

Only a few fan with hatred toward certain player would find any reason to make that player look bad.

That lady who writes for the Bees is the worst of them all. I forgot her name.

 

[Kingster]

It's a very shady article. Seems like the writer deffinetly has an agenda. Not sure who the guy is though, and I don't know much about that site, but some of the facts aren't right. I herd it myself, Casspi admitted that he was tired, and that he needed to work on his stamina so he could play like he plays for 82 games. So while that article says Casspi wasn't tired... It's hard to believe that when Casspi said it.

As far as why Westphal stopped playing him... I don't have an answer for that. Greene and Casspi should have played more minutes than they did.

And the trading part of the artcle is kind of rediculous. I'm sure EVERY team would want him... Not just 8 or whatever the article said.


Just a side note: If it came down to Casspi or Greene, and one of them needed to go, I'd keep Greene.

I agree. A historical anecdote. An unamed source. A quote from Amick. An observation that may mean nothing. A snipet from Casspi. All woven together to portray a man unhappy with Westphal and jealous of Tyreke, looking to get traded. I need to see more substance to get upset about it. Even if Casspi was upset, so what? It would be the typical case of the rookie thinking he's better than he really is.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

A quote from Amick.

That was obviously translated into Hebrew and then back into English, no less.

 

[mcsluggo]

i assume that the term "controversial" in the title is here defined to mean "steaming load of feces"...?

 

[D13]

Please. Are you serious? Please learn to exercise a basic level of critical thinking and realize that the writer is a brain damaged individual. Please. You can't be serious.

Well, yea I am serious... and my critical thinking is just fine thanks, or I wouldn't be questioning Yaniv Orgads agenda with something more than "brain damaged".

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

Donte seems to have they higher potential. But Casspi will be a fine player. If both gets to the point where they both are good enough to be a great starter, then Casspi is very tradable. Meaning a lot of teams will be lining up.

 

[Rookie]

Donte seems to have they higher potential. But Casspi will be a fine player. If both gets to the point where they both are good enough to be a great starter, then Casspi is very tradable. Meaning a lot of teams will be lining up.

Both are tradable but unless there's something good in return you don't trade just because you have two good SFs. Why not keep both if they're young and playing well?

 

[The Hammer]

Well, yea I am serious... and my critical thinking is just fine thanks, or I wouldn't be questioning Yaniv Orgads agenda with something more than "brain damaged".

I know. I'm such an ***! Message boards are just so fun for spouting off dumb things all the time!

But honestly, I really don't think Casspi said or feels the way he is portrayed in this article.

 

[bajaden]

Donte seems to have they higher potential. But Casspi will be a fine player. If both gets to the point where they both are good enough to be a great starter, then Casspi is very tradable. Meaning a lot of teams will be lining up.

Just curious, but if we find a way to trade Nocioni, and Both Greene and Casspi improve to the point that their considered to be starting material, why would we want to trade one of them? We need two SF's, and we would have two SF's. Seems like you just leave well enough alone.

 

[bajaden]

Donte seems to have they higher potential. But Casspi will be a fine player. If both gets to the point where they both are good enough to be a great starter, then Casspi is very tradable. Meaning a lot of teams will be lining up.

Just curious, but if we find a way to trade Nocioni, and Both Greene and Casspi improve to the point that their considered to be starting material, why would we want to trade one of them? We need two SF's, and we would have two SF's. Seems like you just leave well enough alone.

 

[matthew76]

SPM(short for Superpowermultiply)
That lady who writes for the Bees is the worst of them all. I forgot her name.

Ailene Voisin?

 

[Nighthawk1]

Just curious, but if we find a way to trade Nocioni, and Both Greene and Casspi improve to the point that their considered to be starting material, why would we want to trade one of them? We need two SF's, and we would have two SF's. Seems like you just leave well enough alone.

I agree 100%, even if we can't trade Noci we should keep both. Donte has shown the versatility to play 2-4 spots, and shut down some elite scorers at those positions or exploit them offensively if there is no stopping them (example of Amare).

I think Casspi comes into this 2nd season a much improved player knowing what the NBA game is about he will prepare accordingly. I look at season one as a shock in change of game styles for him but he flashed what he can do early on.

 

[Telemachus]

Ailene Voisin?

Aaargh! The black spot! Spit. (spin, spin, spin)

 

[avib87]

"I'm ready for a bigger team."

Im from israel,and i was reading this article in hebrew,
so a few facts about that casspi said- "I'm ready for a bigger team."
1.the site that publishd that is-"one"
2.the writer keep pushing him to say that,casspi was trying to ignore but the writer dont gave up...
3.when the writer saw that he cant take a huge announcement from casspi,he start to play with him a game-"what if blah blah blah" and just than with the hypothetical questions casspi said that,and right after that he said that he is happy in sacramento and he is gona stayin here for long time...

 

[bajaden]

Aaargh! The black spot! Spit. (spin, spin, spin)

Does that mean you don't like her?

 

[Telemachus]

Does that mean you don't like her?

Let's just say that if I had to choose between her and R. E. Graswich, she wins by a hair. And considering how I couldn't stand Graswich and almost threw a party when he was moved off the sports section, that should paint a pretty clear picture of how I feel.

 

[swisshh]

AV at least puts forth effort.

All Graswich did was write the same article over and over, which constituted mostly of "the Kings suck" and then pat himself on the back when they, to nobody's surprise, would lose.

Voisin at least thinks out her agenda and has to work to keep it going.

 

[Telemachus]

AV at least puts forth effort.

All Graswich did was write the same article over and over, which constituted mostly of "the Kings suck" and then pat himself on the back when they, to nobody's surprise, would lose.

Voisin at least thinks out her agenda and has to work to keep it going.

That's why I give her a little more credit. She at least has some clue to what she is talking about. Only she chooses to propose her own agenda sprinkled with a few truths to back it up. Graswich would just make things up to be critical of when he couldn't find them on his own.

 

[Ed2009]

if he really did say that, bye bye c***pi...

If he said it or not whooooo cares and the way its seems he didnt.
The media is always looking for a story that doesnt exist.

Casspi knows that he played bad lately.
He is also aware of the fact that he needs to improve a lot in his game.
Reading what he wrote about Coach W. is also indicating that he knows
how lucky he was to have played so many minutes as a rookie.
The interview shows again that he is down to earth and very realistic about the season he played.

I am sure we will see a better Casspi next season since he knows that he will only get minutes if he is being concidered valuable to the team.

LETS GO KINGS!

 

[Sac.1989]

"I'm ready for a bigger team."

Im from israel,and i was reading this article in hebrew,
so a few facts about that casspi said- "I'm ready for a bigger team."
1.the site that publishd that is-"one"
2.the writer keep pushing him to say that,casspi was trying to ignore but the writer dont gave up...
3.when the writer saw that he cant take a huge announcement from casspi,he start to play with him a game-"what if blah blah blah" and just than with the hypothetical questions casspi said that,and right after that he said that he is happy in sacramento and he is gona stayin here for long time...

there u have it, thanks for the translation and insight dude

 

[tonymixwell]

Casspi

Casspi is a great role player and I see him as significant King going forward. This season became a test of which a lot of players received different amounts of P/T. Omri should understand that. I would assume if we were making a playoff run, he would be our defensive stopper. Also, I can't argue with Coach Westphal. If he saw Casspi getting tired, then I'm sure thats the case. No player will admit they are geting tired. I would hate to see him go but if he really thinks he has bigger and better things to do or better teams to be on then so be it. I don't see Casspi as saying that but if he did, then we should replace him. It will not be easy but we need the team to act as a team. No need for a player whp thinks he's too good for the team. thats unfair to the fans and the players. Sorry Omri. If you leave, you will miss out on being a significant part of a fun rebuilding team....

 

[Noam77]

the truth about casspi

casspi is a talented player in european and also israeli standards, and all of us israelis are still surprised in a way when he hits threes in the NBA or lays down a teardrop in a fastbreak. we knew he's energetic, but his scoring in the NBA is interpreted by many as a result of a boost of adrenalin that faded away around january-february.

i hate to see signs of cockiness in him, but i feel for him, since in israel - and in europe - it is common invlove "belief" in a player when you let him play. i think it's a little outdated, especially when coaches have so many choices and the hierarchy is not clear, but apparently casspi felt he wanted the coaching staff to believe in him.

personally i do think they believed in him, even when he missed a lot.

i saw more games of casspi late in the season though and it seemed he had lots of playing time with no shooting at all.

that's a result of both feeling frustrated his early "rush" faded, and of the fact that the kings aren't really playing the european passing game that helps players getting in zone, they have to take it in both hands.

but when many of you say casspi could be a starter in sac, being a central pillar etc, i don't think you realize that a player like omri needs consistency assured not by the coach but by his teammates.
when omri see's tyreke taking bad shots and having a a bad assists/TO ratio for 35-40 minutes, that's frustrating. and that's your point guard.
check out that omri has the best +/- ratio from all the starters/top subs.
and with whom? with sergio.
beno doesn't count him, some kind of european jealousy i guess.

it's fair and sqaure for the kings to say we need more of an independant player, someone like greene or udoka - that does not depend on teammates and is more automatic on jump shots.

but then don't be surprised if casspi is willing to play 15 minutes in a higher profile team where he knows his role, the hierarchy is clear, he gets better passes and clearer shots, and is adding an extra factor when steps on the court, and not like with kings, expected to make the game happen just because he's the number 4 or 5 scorer in the team (as it was earlier).

true, with the cavs or the lakers he wouldnt have too many shots, but in dallas or san antonio, or other play-off teams, he might.

thanks all,
Noam.

 

[mac]

casspi is a talented player in european and also israeli standards, and all of us israelis are still surprised in a way when he hits threes in the NBA or lays down a teardrop in a fastbreak. we knew he's energetic, but his scoring in the NBA is interpreted by many as a result of a boost of adrenalin that faded away around january-february.

i hate to see signs of cockiness in him, but i feel for him, since in israel - and in europe - it is common invlove "belief" in a player when you let him play. i think it's a little outdated, especially when coaches have so many choices and the hierarchy is not clear, but apparently casspi felt he wanted the coaching staff to believe in him.

personally i do think they believed in him, even when he missed a lot.

i saw more games of casspi late in the season though and it seemed he had lots of playing time with no shooting at all.

that's a result of both feeling frustrated his early "rush" faded, and of the fact that the kings aren't really playing the european passing game that helps players getting in zone, they have to take it in both hands.

but when many of you say casspi could be a starter in sac, being a central pillar etc, i don't think you realize that a player like omri needs consistency assured not by the coach but by his teammates.
when omri see's tyreke taking bad shots and having a a bad assists/TO ratio for 35-40 minutes, that's frustrating. and that's your point guard.
check out that omri has the best +/- ratio from all the starters/top subs.
and with whom? with sergio.
beno doesn't count him, some kind of european jealousy i guess.

it's fair and sqaure for the kings to say we need more of an independant player, someone like greene or udoka - that does not depend on teammates and is more automatic on jump shots.

but then don't be surprised if casspi is willing to play 15 minutes in a higher profile team where he knows his role, the hierarchy is clear, he gets better passes and clearer shots, and is adding an extra factor when steps on the court, and not like with kings, expected to make the game happen just because he's the number 4 or 5 scorer in the team (as it was earlier).

true, with the cavs or the lakers he wouldnt have too many shots, but in dallas or san antonio, or other play-off teams, he might.

thanks all,
Noam.

Just wondering where you got the bolded part from. I agree with you that a player needs consistency - we all do I would think. Like you said, the 'blame' or whatever it is falls on everyone, not just a single entity. Tyreke could pass more. At the same time, Casspi cost him a good number of assists throughout several games on all his bricked open shots that Tyreke created for him.

Anyway, I think the underlying thing is that this was a very new beginning for everyone. New coach, new players, new emphasis. We tend to forget this and expect a perfect and refined system already in place with excellent ball movement and everyone playing hard and consistently well. But the fact is, Omri and Tyreke and even coach Westphal were rookies to the Sacramento Kings this past season, and that said I think the overall production and growth was more than satisfactory.