[Game] 62/82: Kings vs. Spurs, 07 MAR 2025, 7p PT/10p ET

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Yeah, I'm aware of that. And it's one of the reasons my enthusiasm for this team is currently at an all-time low. We had a direction and a focus which should have led us to another 5+ years of winning basketball and things have taken a hard turn into the bizarro land of run and gun hero-ball and preferencing swagger over discipline and that's the same losing philosophy that (I thought) we'd just managed to escape from.
Just going back on some of these posts. You really think we had direction and focus with Fox leading the team? We were not going anywhere outside of 45-47 win seasons with him. Even guys like Siakam would rather play with Haliburton than Fox. There’s something to be said about your leader attracting top talent and Fox is no where close to being that type of star. He’s barely a 1x all star. And him playing for the Supermax thinking he could get there, and the org supporting him in that endeavor was a huge blunder. Dude obviously thought highly of himself and it’s so clear that he’s just another CJ McCollum / Bradley Beal supporting cast player
 
Mike Brown was the best thing to happen to this franchise since Rick Adelman in my opinion. Hopefully it doesn't take another 16 years of losing for Kings fans to realize that.
Yeah but how many more games/years of winning under Doug until you change your tune? 20-11 vs 13-18 isn't good enough for you I guess. I wonder what will be.
 
Feels like we won the trade lol
Absulutely. And I'll go even further. We won it if it was Fox for Lavine straight up. But Monte basically parleyed it into Fox and Huerter for Lavine, Valanciunas, LaRavia, Fultz, two first rounders and two/three second rounders. One of the best trade deadlines I've ever seen, and with seemingly no leverage. Unreal.
 
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But Hali is different because he gave his allegiance and was caught off guard and hurt by the trade. A lot of courtesies Fox was extended were a direct result of that fallout. But also that trade was made to placate Fox. The guy we did wrong. anyways.

Hali has gotten over it and good for him. Feel like Fox is going to be more in the IT camp where he spends his San Antonio career bashing us until he learns that some of the more successful orgs treat their guys like commodities.
I still just think Fox thinks he's better than he is, and all that placating, on the court an off, fed into that, because, from the Orgs side we needed a "star"... so we created one. I think Fox is going to find out that outside the friendly confines of Sacramento, he's just not going to be the player he thinks he is. I predict he'll go on to have a good but not great career, never make another all star team, but he will get that big new contract he wants. I think even SA was fooled by the Fox mirage we created. He can't shoot, and pretty soon he'll lose his quickness too. What then?
 
ESPN, the Athletic, they all post "stories" from Fox POV, that he was unaware that they put him in the trade block, all he wanted was for Brown not to get fired, his only demand was for the team to bring wings (like Cam Johnson) cause wings wins championships (like Giannis), and that there were other teammates that wanted Mike Brown to be fired, but he wanted him to extend which happened at the end.
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De’Aaron and his wife are absolute liars. Every action his agent took, with his blessing, tells a completely different story than the one he and his wife are selling. And since all of the local media are friendly with them, they have helped push the lies.
 
A lot of juicy info in the Athletic article today.

Anjali Ranadive and Jeremy Lamb were allegedly growing in influence among the decision makers. One team employee joked they would be working for Lamb soon.

Monte was against the firing of Mike Brown

Sabonis is expected to seek clarity from the organization this summer. Has some of the same concerns Fox did in regards to instability
I don’t believe a freaking word of this. Just a bunch of sewing circle gossip.
 
Mike Brown was the best thing to happen to this franchise since Rick Adelman in my opinion. Hopefully it doesn't take another 16 years of losing for Kings fans to realize that.
You’re kidding, right?

It won’t take 160 years to realize it because it ain’t true.

Mike Brown is a journeyman head coach. Nothing more.

Winning 60 games with LeFraud James in his prime doesn’t change that. Ty Lue was part of a title winning team coaching that same player.

How you arrived at that opinion is baffling.
 
I'm starting to think it was Monte and Wes but I understand why you're reluctant to accept that until we have some sustained success with another coach.
We didn’t even have sustained success with Brown. We had two winning seasons. With the best roster this franchise has had since the Webber era.

This team started slow every single season of Brown tenure. And their defense never reached a level expected of a supposed “defensive guru”.

This fanbase was so starved for a winning season and a postseason appearance they’ve mistaken a saltine cracker for a New York strip steak.

The way Brown was running this team, I don’t see any chance they make this turnaround had he not been fired.
 
We didn’t even have sustained success with Brown. We had two winning seasons. With the best roster this franchise has had since the Webber era.

This team started slow every single season of Brown tenure. And their defense never reached a level expected of a supposed “defensive guru”.

This fanbase was so starved for a winning season and a postseason appearance they’ve mistaken a saltine cracker for a New York strip steak.

The way Brown was running this team, I don’t see any chance they make this turnaround had he not been fired.
I was spitting distance from him at the November Portland game. Brown even then seemed checked out. He didn’t really lobby for his team. Let them make a bunch of mistakes (20 turnovers) without getting into them. In game, he would tell his assistants to tell the players when he wanted something done, which was bizarre. I understand delegating to assistants, but he would rather go over to an assistant to tell them to have so and so player do something instead of telling them himself when they were right in front of him
 
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