KingsFanSince85
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While implementing several new players with no practices to do it.
[Game] 53/82: Kings @ Mavericks 10 FEB 2025, 5:30pm PT/8:30pm ET
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While implementing several new players with no practices to do it.
OptimusRhyme
Jive Turkey
go back and watch those domas/jonas minutes.. they looked so good. like brad miller and vlade on steroids lol
serbiangoat
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It's great the Kings are winning but man they are making it way harder than it needs to be, they had Jonas/Domas separate and together and refused to make a single pass into the to the post. If the Kings played with slightly higher IQ this is a 10-15 point win.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
That just screams lack of practice and familiarity with one another. Apart from Domas and DDR, no one knows JV’s skill set. You also add in Lavine who is obviously a huge cog in the offense and you’re going to struggle offensively. We changed 1/3 of our regular rotation and had to implement these changes on the fly. I expect things to improve as time goes on, but I readily admit we are far too unbalanced in the starting lineup. It’s all offense apart from Keegan.
The misfit to me is Trey Lyles, who has been having a subpar season imo. The situation with Keegan is interesting. The kid has regressed offensively which is great for contract negotiations but it’s occurred because he’s the only one capable of playing defense. His game is more of a forward as opposed to a big man and I’d love to see him slide there, but that would mean one of DDR or Lavine would have to vacate their position in the starting lineup.
I’d love to get a proper big next to Domas, a versatile 4 that can defend. Jonathan Isaac immediately comes to mind. We would be huge from positions 3-5 but also very versatile. Who do you get rid of though?
Either way, a great win that shouldn’t have been as close, but we played like a team that doesn’t know how to play together yet. Which is true. We will only get better.
sactowndog
All-Star
Kyrie is a touch too quick for Keon. It was a game where Carters ability to stay in front of people would have helped.
QWERTYLICIOUS
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I am not quite sure how long you have been a Kings fan for, and how long you have been watching Kings games for on a regular basis, but I assume you have been doing both (being a fan and watching games) long enough to know that it isn't Kings basketball if the Kings don't find a way to make it difficult on themselves...
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Love how they battled back and took that one back. Doug made some great coaching calls and the players all had their moments during the game. DDR in the 4th, Monk carrying us through OT and that insane step through shot by DDR to win was awesome to see.
The bad is they had to fight, scratch and claw their way to a victory over a short handed team that didn't even have a center for most of the game. That's really inexcusable. They should have won this game by over 20 points. It's all too commonplace for the Kings to start the game out by letting a guy drop 4 straight 3s on their heads before they realize that NBA players can shoot 3s and maybe they should be guarded.
I also never want to see Keon attempt to feed the ball to a big in the post and I never want to see Lavine attempt a pocket pass ever again. I'm pretty sure these guys turn the ball over about 3 times to every 1 time one of those passes are successful.
The bad is they had to fight, scratch and claw their way to a victory over a short handed team that didn't even have a center for most of the game. That's really inexcusable. They should have won this game by over 20 points. It's all too commonplace for the Kings to start the game out by letting a guy drop 4 straight 3s on their heads before they realize that NBA players can shoot 3s and maybe they should be guarded.
I also never want to see Keon attempt to feed the ball to a big in the post and I never want to see Lavine attempt a pocket pass ever again. I'm pretty sure these guys turn the ball over about 3 times to every 1 time one of those passes are successful.
GWD
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The concern about turnovers and misplays is correctable with time and practice. As fans, the quality that the individual players have demonstrated is quite apparent. But also is the impression that the team has essentially a pickup-style game often found at the local YMCA. It is completely understandable with the newly acquired players and how their talents mesh being tested in-game with little to no practice.
In one view, the lack of practice may be a positive. Each player's raw talent is being shown in-game and under pressure. As a result, Coach Christie and assistants can fashion a custom game plan based on what is actually demonstrated on the floor. This, rather than the Brown tendency to try to fit players to the pre-determined scheme (aka: square peg in round hole), provides a wealth of player information and tendencies that can be built upon to maximize potential.
Once the indicated game plan is developed, it is then that organized practice can cause the team to bloom.
Coach Christie seems to recognize this outlook. This recent game where he "went big" with the centers is an example. Another is the resting of DeRosan that resulted the outburst he showed closing the game.
There are two games remaining before the break to further gather information and insight. After the All-Star game, a reasonable expectation is that the player parts will be refined, practiced, and in cohesive winning form that will carry the team to playoff success. Perhaps not all the way, but enough to open some eyes to the talent now in Beamtown.
In one view, the lack of practice may be a positive. Each player's raw talent is being shown in-game and under pressure. As a result, Coach Christie and assistants can fashion a custom game plan based on what is actually demonstrated on the floor. This, rather than the Brown tendency to try to fit players to the pre-determined scheme (aka: square peg in round hole), provides a wealth of player information and tendencies that can be built upon to maximize potential.
Once the indicated game plan is developed, it is then that organized practice can cause the team to bloom.
Coach Christie seems to recognize this outlook. This recent game where he "went big" with the centers is an example. Another is the resting of DeRosan that resulted the outburst he showed closing the game.
There are two games remaining before the break to further gather information and insight. After the All-Star game, a reasonable expectation is that the player parts will be refined, practiced, and in cohesive winning form that will carry the team to playoff success. Perhaps not all the way, but enough to open some eyes to the talent now in Beamtown.
reptilexcq2
Bench
I agreed. The Kings are talented than the other team and yet they seem to be struggling with keeping up with the scores due to fundamental mistakes in the way to perform on the court. What do I mean by that? It's just little things like taking the wrong angle in defending. Sabonis was out of position allowing a direct drive, that could have easily corrected. Or DeRozen refuse to take charge even though he was well ahead of time in position himself to take charge. Malik taking his eye off his man allowing a dunk. Lavine pick n roll with Sabonis at the corner? Obviously, they need to work on it but isn't it better to do pick n roll in the middle of the court to give yourself more space? Doug need to stop playing zone defense...it doesn't seem to work at all. Malik is working too hard and playing heavy minutes...I think Carter will be fine coming off the bench. Not sure why they put him in the G-League, i mean he does thing on the court that win game as far as defending. And him driving and attacking ain't bad either. I think Kings may underestimate what Carter can do on the court.
Rob-The-Great
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This team just feels like Kings basketball of old. No superstar, a lot of stars but team. Basketball first. Yes we have a go to in the 4th. Every team needs this, but the playing hard and unselfish is amazing to see.
I can actually say, I have no complains towards anyone on the roster. Yes tre has been sucking, but we will need him. He plays hard and is a great teammate.
Kyre could play with a bunch of G league players and make a game. He is a generation talent. He def deserves allstar. Everytime he was in the game his presence was felt, exact opposite of that other guy.
We need that 6th spot tho
I can actually say, I have no complains towards anyone on the roster. Yes tre has been sucking, but we will need him. He plays hard and is a great teammate.
Kyre could play with a bunch of G league players and make a game. He is a generation talent. He def deserves allstar. Everytime he was in the game his presence was felt, exact opposite of that other guy.
We need that 6th spot tho
Rob-The-Great
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Carter isn't ready man. His offense is terrible and out of control. I like the kid, but he's just not there.
Murray also blew some defense. Surprised nobody mentioned it. Same with Keon. Although nobody can guard Kyre.
Derozen not taking no charges at 35 and a wire frame. He made a business decision
NewArena
All-Star
I think that will come as they get more reps together. Sabonis finding Jonas in the post and them grabbing every offensive rebound gave me chills lol
reptilexcq2
Bench
I am not quite sure how long you have been a Kings fan for, and how long you have been watching Kings games for on a regular basis, but I assume you have been doing both (being a fan and watching games) long enough to know that it isn't Kings basketball if the Kings don't find a way to make it difficult on themselves...
You mean, "if you don't like THAT, you don't like NBA basketball...ohhhhhhhhhhh boyz!!"
QWERTYLICIOUS
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"Put it in the book/bucket and send him to the line!!!! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BOY!!!"
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Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Something something long meandering story about growing up with Larry Bird and/or the time he coached Bob McAdoo in junior college.
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