30 for 30: Once Brothers

startingtohurt

startingtohurt

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Did anybody else watch the ESPN special about Vlade and his relationship with Drazen Petrovic? I didn't know any of the history going in...but it was really well done. You could tell that situation beat Vlade up pretty bad. Makes me respect him even more!

BTW, I don't know if this post belongs here or not, I just wanted to share.
 
Showtime

Showtime

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Man, this one was a good one. The story of the Yugoslavian national team and relationships strained and torn apart by the civil war which split apart the nation. It focused in on Vlade Divac and Drazen Petrovic. The aspects of regret, things left unspoken and things yet to be which was ended with a premature death really hit home. It's also sad to see peoples so divided still to this day due to national conflict. I hope we can all learn some lessons from hearing their stories.
 
JerN820

JerN820

Bench
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startingtohurt said:
Did anybody else watch the ESPN special about Vlade and his relationship with Drazen Petrovic? I didn't know any of the history going in...but it was really well done. You could tell that situation beat Vlade up pretty bad. Makes me respect him even more!

BTW, I don't know if this post belongs here or not, I just wanted to share.
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I missed this. Is it going to be on again?
 
nebs

nebs

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Yeah I saw it. Very good episode. I remember Vlade and Toni Kukoc being on the outs while they were in the NBA but didn't really know why.
 
63royals

63royals

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Really enjoyed it. Highly recommended.

That Yugoslavian team with Vlade and Drazen was one of the main arguments that it's time to allow the US to send NBA players to international competitions, leading to the first Dream Team in 1992.
 
Mike0476

Mike0476

Starter
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I just finished watching it. I learned a lot from this documentary and it's sad what happened.

"To build a friendship it takes years but to destroy it one second." - Vlade Divac

Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlOWJ9aRABs

Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeQmPk33Mls

Part 3 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K835fDiY34

Part 4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNqtXkNwbOk

Part 5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9sXmVWmU4

Part 6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AvdGfCqHrk

Part 7 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8TqtFRpBYw

Part 8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUlqgwfGYYs
 
Nap206

Nap206

Prospect
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This 30 for 30 was the best so far. I had no idea all that was going down. The people that are doing these shows are doing a great job. The only other 30 for 30 that I have seen was run Ricky run. It was also pretty good.
 
piksi

piksi

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there is another thread about this on the NBA part of the forum

very emotional, very moving TRUE story

the ending was very very sad

I can't believe that there are people who think that Vlade did this for purpose of self promotion and that there is nothing sincere in this movie.
 
piksi

piksi

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I know you haven't but you don't speak Croatian

it is crazy

instead of being grateful that someone put such effort to keep Drazen's legacy going, good part of them continue to dump on Vlade.
 
Capt. Factorial

Capt. Factorial

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piksi said:
I know you haven't but you don't speak Croatian

it is crazy

instead of being grateful that someone put such effort to keep Drazen's legacy going, good part of them continue to dump on Vlade.
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Well, the documentary shot on the streets of Zagreb suggested that Vlade didn't get much of a warm welcome in Croatia 20 years later. I guess the long memory of the Croatians is just another lesson to be learned from the documentary/situation.
 
piksi

piksi

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don't start with the "long memory" because on Balkans - we can go forever in the past

Vlade didn't need any of this. He doesn't have to prove what kind of human being he is. He did it for a friend who stopped being his long time ago. But then again it wouldn't be Vlade.

This movie has nothing to do with politics. It hasn't been made for political purpose or self promotion.
 
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gvucko

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This was a great documentary! Sort of Romeo and Julia (different type of love though) conflict. I still remember watching that team in 1989 in Zagreb playing. They averaged 22 years. The oldest starting player, defensive specialist Jure Zdovc, was 25, followed by Drazen, all of the others still had mamas milk on their mouth.

But did they play.

The documentary was a little simplistic on some subjects but that is because they did not want to stray from the main subject.

piksi said:
I know you haven't but you don't speak Croatian

it is crazy

instead of being grateful that someone put such effort to keep Drazen's legacy going, good part of them continue to dump on Vlade.
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It is hard being gratefull if you look from their perspective. The war was long and horrible. Basketball is great but it can not heal wounds that great. It doesn't matter how great a person Vlade is people who lost their closest in the war will see him as a Serb.

But if we all were a person Vlade is, the war would never have happened.
 
kennadog

kennadog

Dog On It!
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gvucko said:
This was a great documentary! Sort of Romeo and Julia (different type of love though) conflict. I still remember watching that team in 1989 in Zagreb playing. They averaged 22 years. The oldest starting player, defensive specialist Jure Zdovc, was 25, followed by Drazen, all of the others still had mamas milk on their mouth.

But did they play.

The documentary was a little simplistic on some subjects but that is because they did not want to stray from the main subject.



It is hard being gratefull if you look from their perspective. The war was long and horrible. Basketball is great but it can not heal wounds that great. It doesn't matter how great a person Vlade is people who lost their closest in the war will see him as a Serb.

But if we all were a person Vlade is, the war would never have happened
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Too true. I love Vlade and see no reason why he would "need" to promote himself, anyway. Its not like he left basketball and people forgot him or he hadn't created another life for himself. He has done so much for so many and I imagine he will do so for the rest of his life. He's never been a publicity seeker.

People can choose to forgive and not carry hate forward, not pass it on to succeeding generations either. Its not easy, but it is a choice to not let go. I was very moved by the story. The visit to Zagreb seems to have been cathartic for Vlade. I hope he is more at peace in his heart now.
 
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