You have to reasonably draw the line somewhere. If I'm the owner, no agent is dictating my decisions for my team. If there is push back in the media, I'd simply lay out the reasons for why it makes sense for my organization going forward
Unlike the Barnes trade I have no idea. But pretty hard to see how we could have done worse.
That’s a fair point. But it’s possible that there’s a lot going on behind the scenes that we don’t know about. You could choose to play ball and be part of the boys club or go against the grain, but if you choose to go against the grain there would very likely be consequences to that.
Ditto. I don't think I've ever agreed with @sactowndog this wholeheartedly.On this particular point, you and I are in rather strong agreement.
All of this is true but @sactowndog shouldn't be able to wiggle out of his "we're going to make Zach's agent unhappy" comment by changing the subject to how stupid our FO was in bending over backwards for Zach's agent to get us to this point.
What if the Fox trade or the ancillary moves are what changed the situation? We don't even truly know if Monte was fired or quit.
I think he wanted out after he was nudged to acquire DeRozan and Lavine...and the timing of the the firing of Brown. I don't see any scenario where he goes for those two players if he was fully in charge of the roster
After all this time I don't have the slightest clue what the roster would look like if Monte were playing NBA2k. I also don't know what Vivek's would look like. It feels like we just take whatever players we can get. And unfortunately our draft record is pretty poor overall even discounting for lottery luck.
What about any other points?
I have said a lot of things I am happy to admit to but I don’t ever remember saying anything about “we are going to make Zach’s agent unhappy”??????
Perhaps but doubt it
I quoted it twice. You said that Zach would not opt out for a team friendly deal because we may have angered his agent, my reply was this whole nightmare was all about maintaining agent relations and in my book we're way past overdue on the quo for our quid.
Zach is not opting out. It would be the worst decision ever.
A lot of players in his stage of their career are opting out for multiyear deals that far exceed their one year price. It shows they are team players and allows them to retain some of their market value. At Zach’s stage every future contract is going to be declining so he stands to benefit by extending not being a minimum level player with a reputation as a loser.
In what thread did I type this comment? I can’t find it. Perhaps I misspoke because I honestly don’t giving a damn if we make his agent unhappy
Not when they are overpaid so much like he is. Come on now. Not every other player opting out is making FAR over market value.