24 hours until the trade deadline: Will the Kings make a move?

they should have at least done a minor deal, reports had boston interested in JJ hickson, shoulda just traded him for anything we could get conditional second or even a protected first rounder if other pieces were involved
 
Who was really going to be interested in any of our players (bar Cousins)

It's really as simple as that. I'm not fussed we didn't make a move. This upcoming draft is very important.
 
Unless it was a small pick, any other pick was premature. The way this team is playing, we are heading to a top 4 pick. This is based on statistics and not voodoo, karma, or Stern. A top 4 pick would give us Davis, Drummond, Kidd-Gilchrist, or Barnes or any other top 4 pick that might be revealed in the NCAA tournament. All of these would be a starter at SF or PF/C for the Kings and probably would eventually be better than Tyreke and Thornton. At least they are in that range and would be starters. That would change our needs in a trade. As I would like us to draft BPA, I want no doors closed prior to the draft. A big trade now, such as Thornton for Granger, would shut one door where we would be almost forced to pick Davis or Drummiond. Another trade such as for Okafor would make a need for a big in the draft hardly urgent and would limit is to SFs. I don't want a limit on who we can draft.

I think making no trades was absolutely the correct move based on a very unusual and deep college draft.

What's the hurry? A draft now would leave us right where we are with perhaps a marginal improvement.

No, I think we are heading for the best chances of getting a 4th pick, which will end up in us getting screwed in the lotto again and getting the 7th, only to subsequently trade that 7th for a 10th or lower and wind up with another Jimmer, Thompson, Hawes, Casspi, type role player.

This blows... we have so many holes and their was a plethora of names being floated out their that could have filled them and we walk away with nothing.

Trading is how our team got great before and its the only way we are going to do it again. Look at the Lakers moves so far. Jason Kapono and a low first round pick for Ramon Sessions and Christian Eyenga. Then Derek Fisher and the Mavs 1st for Jordan Hill.

GP is just sitting on his *** while teams like the Lakers are actually trying to improve. Sessions and Hill aren't superstars but they put up good numbers in limited minutes and we could sure use that kind of talent on the team...
 
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You can't assume anything about statistics. They are what they are. They predict future probablity. They don't make up for the past. They have nothing to do with luck and what I mean by that is that just because we are on a string of bad luck, that doesn't mean we will continue to have bad luck. Nor does it mean karma will intervene and we will be paid back by a great pick.

The worse we end up in the season, the better the chance of getting the number one pick. If we are 4th from the bottom, we have a chance at #1 and a chance at #7. Can't bet the house on either as statistics determine what the pick will be. We can plug a hole at starting SF and have Salmons as the backup. We can plug the hole at Cousins' running mate and have JT backing him up. By chance we could get Anthony Davis just as the Clippers got Griffen a couple years ago. Same odds.

BTW, there are some very good players between #4 and #8 also. All have the possibilities of being starters for the Kings. By immense luck, the strength of the draft is in SFs and PF/Cs which is exactly what we need. Some think we need a PG but I think that is more easily acquired via trade as we have a bit of a decent collection of young guards and trades would need to be made to unsort that mess. All to our advantage, I think.
 
Add the Blazers to the list of good trades.... Traded a 38 year old Marcus Camby to the Rockets for Johnny Flynn, Hasheem, Thabeet, and a 2nd round pick. Busts or not, thats a good haul for a 38 year old player.
 
You can't assume anything about statistics. They are what they are. They predict future probablity. They don't make up for the past. They have nothing to do with luck and what I mean by that is that just because we are on a string of bad luck, that doesn't mean we will continue to have bad luck. Nor does it mean karma will intervene and we will be paid back by a great pick.

The worse we end up in the season, the better the chance of getting the number one pick. If we are 4th from the bottom, we have a chance at #1 and a chance at #7. Can't bet the house on either as statistics determine what the pick will be. We can plug a hole at starting SF and have Salmons as the backup. We can plug the hole at Cousins' running mate and have JT backing him up. By chance we could get Anthony Davis just as the Clippers got Griffen a couple years ago. Same odds.

BTW, there are some very good players between #4 and #8 also. All have the possibilities of being starters for the Kings. By immense luck, the strength of the draft is in SFs and PF/Cs which is exactly what we need. Some think we need a PG but I think that is more easily acquired via trade as we have a bit of a decent collection of young guards and trades would need to be made to unsort that mess. All to our advantage, I think.

Thats great and all, but what happens when we do end up with the next Spencer Hawes, Thompson, or Jimmer? Do we do this all again next year? Getting the next KD, Rose, or Lebron sounds great but i'm assuming the worst and we should prepare for that scenario.
 
Add the Blazers to the list of good trades.... Traded a 38 year old Marcus Camby to the Rockets for Johnny Flynn, Hasheem, Thabeet, and a 2nd round pick. Busts or not, thats a good haul for a 38 year old player.
Camby rebounds at a Dwight Howard level and those two guys are well on their way out of the league (last year on their contracts too). Clear salary dump. Hardly what I'd call a good trade.
 
We did nothing. Wallace traded for nothing again. GS acquired two SF's better than any of ours, in less than 48 hours. Acquired SJax, then traded him for RJ.

Whether I wanted any of those guys is besides the point. SF's were moved this deadline, all better than ours, and once again our gm is sitting there with his finger up his butt. Nene went to Wash for Mcgee and Turiaf? That's pretty much a salary dump on Denvers part. They didn't trade Nene for the chance to lock up Mcgee longterm. No way. Mcgee's a headcase. So Wallace and Nene are moved for next to nothing, and here we go again sitting on the sidelines, gawking at other teams getting better deals than us. If we can't attract FA's, we have to be involved in these deals!

We keep saying give Petrie until this deadline or that deadline to prove he can move this thing in the right direction. How much longer?

We have one of the worst fitting roster in the league, and just extended the worst coach in the league, and there's no reason to change any of it? Goddamn, being Kings fan sucks!
 
Thats great and all, but what happens when we do end up with the next Spencer Hawes, Thompson, or Jimmer? Do we do this all again next year? Getting the next KD, Rose, or Lebron sounds great but i'm assuming the worst and we should prepare for that scenario.

There is no Jimmer, Hawes, or Thompson in the top 10. This is not a guarnatee but GMs have to make decisions knowing what they know right now and projecting what they know into the future. I am doing the same. The draft is good for us this year and I hope this is the last time we need to depend on the draft for anything. The curiosity about this year's draft is that there are bonafide defensive players available at SF and PF. It's not overly balanced to offensive players with a few defensive players (like Biyombo) who are more wishful thinking than anything else. These defenders, Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist, are great right now.

The strength of the draft is also a reason for not making a significantly good move to improve our record right now. Look at some mock drafts and read what is said about these top 10 guys.

Cheer up. :)
 
We did nothing. Wallace traded for nothing again. GS acquired two SF's better than any of ours, in less than 48 hours. Acquired SJax, then traded him for RJ.

Whether I wanted any of those guys is besides the point. SF's were moved this deadline, all better than ours, and once again our gm is sitting there with his finger up his butt. Nene went to Wash for Mcgee and Turiaf? That's pretty much a salary dump on Denvers part. They didn't trade Nene for the chance to lock up Mcgee longterm. No way. Mcgee's a headcase. So Wallace and Nene are moved for next to nothing, and here we go again sitting on the sidelines, gawking at other teams getting better deals than us. If we can't attract FA's, we have to be involved in these deals!

We keep saying give Petrie until this deadline or that deadline to prove he can move this thing in the right direction. How much longer?

We have one of the worst fitting roster in the league, and just extended the worst coach in the league, and there's no reason to change any of it? Goddamn, being Kings fan sucks!

The Webber trade was in 2005 when we got moveable parts. Still waiting.
 
There is no Jimmer, Hawes, or Thompson in the top 10. This is not a guarnatee but GMs have to make decisions knowing what they know right now and projecting what they know into the future. I am doing the same. The draft is good for us this year and I hope this is the last time we need to depend on the draft for anything. The curiosity about this year's draft is that there are bonafide defensive players available at SF and PF. It's not overly balanced to offensive players with a few defensive players (like Biyombo) who are more wishful thinking than anything else. These defenders, Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist, are great right now.

The strength of the draft is also a reason for not making a significantly good move to improve our record right now. Look at some mock drafts and read what is said about these top 10 guys.

Cheer up. :)

Worst case scenario: we've stockpiled enough youth to be able to turn things around with a few quick trades.
 
Worst case scenario: we've stockpiled enough youth to be able to turn things around with a few quick trades.

I am supportive of trading Thornton plus whoever the other team wants to get to obtain a great player in return. This would mean acquiring a great player at a position that was not filled in the draft. I love Thornton but the guard situation is overstocked and he has the most value right now. We need to do two for one trades or three for one trades and fill whatever hole is left over after the draft.
 
There is no Jimmer, Hawes, or Thompson in the top 10. This is not a guarnatee but GMs have to make decisions knowing what they know right now and projecting what they know into the future. I am doing the same. The draft is good for us this year and I hope this is the last time we need to depend on the draft for anything. The curiosity about this year's draft is that there are bonafide defensive players available at SF and PF. It's not overly balanced to offensive players with a few defensive players (like Biyombo) who are more wishful thinking than anything else. These defenders, Davis and Kidd-Gilchrist, are great right now.

The strength of the draft is also a reason for not making a significantly good move to improve our record right now. Look at some mock drafts and read what is said about these top 10 guys.

Cheer up. :)


I'm fine with tanking for a good draft pick... but I'd like to get rid of some of our deadweight for more picks or someone that fills up a hole in the meantime.
 
I'm fine with tanking for a good draft pick... but I'd like to get rid of some of our deadweight for more picks or someone that fills up a hole in the meantime.

It's time to start racking up the minutes for guys like Jimmer, IT, Honeycutt and Whiteside. Thoughts of playoffs are a complete joke now. It's a waste to see what Salmons, Garcia, etc. can do. They already locked up the coach, so no useless need for veteran PT.
 
I'd love to see Hassan get more court time. We need to see if there is any reason to keep him. Probably is but that one game he wandered about like he was lost really bothered me.
 
The worst case scenario is trying to squeeze every win you can out of veterans. It's meaningless. Might as well find out if Jimmer/Reke backcourt has some possibilities. Find out if Whiteside and Cousins make a decent pairing. Can Honey - cutt it as a SF?
 
Agree start Jimmer at the 1 and whiteside at 5, whats the worst that can happen?

We would get blown out by crappy teams like the warriors and pistons...oh wait thats already happening with our current starters.

So disappointed we couldn't get anything done by the deadline. I'm in for starting the young and getting a better draft position
 
Ok, another wasted season. Time to tank, and hope to get lucky in the lottery. Right now we should decide who is part of the future of this team, give them playing time and forget about others. Give Jimmer and Hassan minutes. Let Jimmer start and see if he gets his confidence back. At least we will have a better idea about who he can be. I have no faith in this team for this year, and I'm really afraid I will never have any faith until we get new owners and GM.
 
Take a look at the the guy nbadraft.net has us taking at number 6... pay special attention to the player comparisons. Not that it means anything, but i though it was pretty funny.

http://nbadraft.net/players/arnett-moultrie

Yes, except he's better than JT. He'd fit well next to Cousins. Moultrie or Robinson should be available for us if we don't get into the top 4. Robinson is very good also.

Actually as I read the description it sounded like Cousins except that he could play farther away from the basket.


 
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