NewArena
All-Star
Whoa. I didn’t know coach K said that
2018 Draft - the morning after (split)
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ParniValjak
All-Star
Overall pretty happy with the outcome of the draft.
I have been vocal in wanting the Kings to swing for the fences and try and hit a home run in getting a perennial all-star talent.
Is Bagley perennial all-star out of the gate?! No! Does he have the talent and the work ethic to get there at some point? I think he does? Is it guaranteed?! No it isn’t!
We were always trading away the 2nd round pick. Look at the make up of our roster. We have more young players than you can poke a stick at. We need to give these guys enough minutes so that they can develop. Veterans will also play and provide guidance like they did this season.
I am excited by what we can be seeing in a couple of years time from the core of Fox, Buddy, Bogdanović, Bagley, Giles etc...
Use the cap space wisely, make a couple of solid trades and we could be well on the way!
I have been vocal in wanting the Kings to swing for the fences and try and hit a home run in getting a perennial all-star talent.
Is Bagley perennial all-star out of the gate?! No! Does he have the talent and the work ethic to get there at some point? I think he does? Is it guaranteed?! No it isn’t!
We were always trading away the 2nd round pick. Look at the make up of our roster. We have more young players than you can poke a stick at. We need to give these guys enough minutes so that they can develop. Veterans will also play and provide guidance like they did this season.
I am excited by what we can be seeing in a couple of years time from the core of Fox, Buddy, Bogdanović, Bagley, Giles etc...
Use the cap space wisely, make a couple of solid trades and we could be well on the way!
Mass
Starter
Reading all these comments at least helps a little bit... I hope all of you who are excited by Bagley are right. Like I said, I really want to be wrong this time.
I will cheer forBagkey from day 1. I want him to become the best player from this draft. I absolutely don’t want him to fail just to be right, I’m not that kind of person.
I will cheer forBagkey from day 1. I want him to become the best player from this draft. I absolutely don’t want him to fail just to be right, I’m not that kind of person.
John Galt
Starter
you had me double-checking my calendar there ... SL is July 2-5, a week from Monday.
Ozymandias
All-Star
Bagley has an extreme physical advantage over certain loafing types of SF's that teams sometimes run out there..
As someone who's followed Marvin's story for many years, I thought for a majority of the time that he could play some 3...
As someone who's followed Marvin's story for many years, I thought for a majority of the time that he could play some 3...
Ozymandias
All-Star
If you just project steady slight incremental gains for Bagley in certain areas like ball handling, using his off hand, shooting and defensive positioning he can handle 3 for sure. IDK why people are here making it sound so preposterous. It's well within his learning curve, I laugh at anyone who says otherwise.
Blob
Starter
Your team didn't want him so you tried to pawn him off to us? 0 for 2.
When Luka took the stage he was barely taller than Adam Silver. Maybe this why it was hard to come by his vital measurements pre-draft. He's probably closer to 6'6.5 without shoes or 6'6" and listed as 6'8" with shoes. For the Mavs sake, they better hope he's not done growing but he probably is.
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
Your team didn't want him so you tried to pawn him off to us? 0 for 2.
He is clearly 4-4.5 inches taller than Silver and Google tells me Adam is 6’3
roasthawg
Starter
Looks like two to three inches to me
iowamcnabb
Hall of Famer
We will have to disagree on that one. Even leaning over he has plenty on him. Either way I don’t think it’s a major deal for either Bagley or Luka but it is interesting we hardly know the true height of these guys.
ockingsfan
Starter
One thing in retrospect I did notice when you watch whole games of Luka's, is that quite a few of the other players on the Euro league teams have similar court vision, passing and ball handling as Luka.
Granted these players are all older veterans, but I was amazed that Luka wasn't the only player on his team passing the ball with good court vision and on spot dimes.
I wonder if Vlade's understanding that Luka's court vision is fairly common in Euro League and may not translate as much in the NBA, since other Euro veterans with similar court vision didn't make it in the NBA, i.e. Rudy Fernandez, sealed his decision to take Bagley.
Granted these players are all older veterans, but I was amazed that Luka wasn't the only player on his team passing the ball with good court vision and on spot dimes.
I wonder if Vlade's understanding that Luka's court vision is fairly common in Euro League and may not translate as much in the NBA, since other Euro veterans with similar court vision didn't make it in the NBA, i.e. Rudy Fernandez, sealed his decision to take Bagley.
Luka was all aged based. Basically no other players had what he had at 19. They might have had it at 24 but the whole point in Luka is if he's got all this at 19, just think of what he can be in 5 years?
Rubio had slightly better passing chops at the same age but was a much worse shooter. Other players like Hezonja could shoot the ball but not a whole lot else. Luka was the complete package over there. He was sort of like how Donovan Mitchell came into the NBA and opened everyone's eyes. He wasn't the best player in the league but you were probably like man if this guy is able to do this his rookie year, just think of what he's going to be capable of in 5? That's how Luka is viewed over there.
I think most people share your thoughts on Luka, which is why everyone wasn't on board with him. Even his biggest fans still most likely had that pit in their stomach making them think what if he just isn't anything special and only looked good against inferior athleticism? I know I thought that for sure but I was willing to roll the dice because his upside is just too big to pass up.
Livinthedream
All-Star
People are also forgetting that Vlade just got burned on a young prospect who was a little pudgy, and not quite quick footed, but had arguably some good talent and size. If you squinted really hard, you could just imagine him turning into something with lots of hard work in the weight room, an NBA diet and some experience. Papagiannis.
I know Luka is way more talented, but the fact is Papa G was a European player that wasn't really athletic and a bit overweight. Maybe Vlade viewed it safer to find an athletic player and mold his skillset than it is to find a skilled player and hope he gets more athletic.
I know Luka is way more talented, but the fact is Papa G was a European player that wasn't really athletic and a bit overweight. Maybe Vlade viewed it safer to find an athletic player and mold his skillset than it is to find a skilled player and hope he gets more athletic.
