A salary dump is by definition a trade for nothing. If you want to call those two moves a package deal than Monte traded a 26 year old recent lottery pick to sign a 35 year old free agent. That doesn't look much better.
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A salary dump is by definition a trade for nothing. If you want to call those two moves a package deal than Monte traded a 26 year old recent lottery pick to sign a 35 year old free agent. That doesn't look much better.
Rob-The-Great
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Davion was too small
Whats davion doing these days. I stopped following him a little after the trade
Rob-The-Great
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So nothing special
He's currently 4th in the league in assists and 27th in steals. You can draw your own conclusions but I would always have a roster spot for him on my basketball team. He is everything I want a PG to be... He's efficient, low usage, distributes the ball, and works his tail off on defense.
Started all 13 games for Miami this year and about half his games last year between TOR and MIA. We shouldn't have had to pay to unload him. Unless Monte thought Jalen McDaniels was going to contribute to the roster rather than get cut in the preseason.
Hardly surprising, though, that someone who gets hearts in their eyes over Zach LaVine would look at a player like Davion Mitchell and go, "I don't see what the big deal is?"
Rob-The-Great
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I ment nothing worth crying over. But yes tour correct. I also wanted him to stay. I always liked (off night)
But id be lying to you if I didnt feel Carter can do that and more if given the time.
I didnt watch today's game. (First time this year) was golfing. But I looked at the minute distribution and its making me sick.
Like I said so many times. We dont have top level talent. I dont know why these minutes are not way more evenly distributed.
Rob-The-Great
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Is that your not so implying again lol. This guy.
I dont even see how the two players are related in this discussion. That comment didn't even make any sense.
My previous comment would explain my feelings towards Davion.
But with Davion on our team right now, we would have exactly the same amount of wins we have right now
Mitchell and Ware or McCain or even Ryan Dunn or hell we shoud have tried to get Deni instead of the Blazers.
NewArena
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They have to sit him. He is so clearly hurt and gave everything he had left in Minnesota - I'm shocked he even tried today. This is NOT the Sabonis we know and I feel bad because no one is going to give him any excuses simply because he has been playing for the most part. He was never a precious NBA darling anyhow and folks were disparaging him as the active top 6-7 MVP candidate the last 2-3 years so the love certainly ain't coming his way for battling through all this crap now.
I watched it on the ipad while playing video games. Effective multitasking since I didn't really give a crap about either.
NewArena
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I agree that this should have been the decision IF he must be here but I don't think he should have ever been signed to begin with, looking back. He is far too slow to be a SG and can't guard those guys either btw.
Rob-The-Great
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I was on the fence about it. But remember who we had in his place.
Barnes. The guy who missed wide open 3 that could have advanced us. I was so sick of Barnes by then id have taken anyone. I think most people thought he may not be the answer for us, but he was a upgrade to Barnes.
Goes to show, fit means a lot in the NBA
I wonder if something happened between their wives. Because all of Recee's loyalists have been on a mission to destroy Domas on social media since who knows when but it really ratcheted up around the time Fox came back for his homecoming game. They seemed to like each other the first ~18 months?
Fox was low key a chill guy. Most people knocked him for only caring about half the time. Both guys seem like loving husbands who want to spend more time with their kids, but Recee brings the kids to the games and Domas's wife is busy with whatever in Napa.
This is just total wild speculation but I've seen this happen in my peer group on more than one occasion.
DeMar was an experiment that clearly didn't work and maybe if he wouldn't take a bench role for Brown he should have been sent home and we'd be in a much different place. He came in and broke the team. We can pick nits on Brown's coaching and what the correct thing to do when the team was in the slump it was from mid November til his dismissal but until he's gone he's just a nasty reminder of everything that has gone wrong.
I saw Bird at the top of the list and looked for any reason not to pick him and I think Jerry would have been it. I was in New England for one year while he was playing and then my first year in Boston was immediately after he retired - like literally got there a week or two after his announcement and most of the season since I was in a dorm with no cable I could watch the Celtics and hear them pine for their legend.
But honestly I never liked those Celtics teams. I did root for some of his Pacers teams.
They were eager to get of Vassell's contract. Widely considered untouchable, though that didn't stop us from taking Zach.
On the contrary, I wasn't implying at all this time. I was accusing.
No, more concerned he'd come in and initiate a win streak that holds off the rebuild.
I've taken my fair share of misses on these polls but the key to crafting a good poll in my Personal Record Book™ is to present a poll that doesn't have one "obvious" answer. There's no chance that Bird wasn't going to win this.
Letsgokings13
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I've also seen weird comments on Twitter about hoping that domas' wife "hates" where she ends up living. Some weird parasocial relationships attached to that circle where they think they're really involved for some reason. Carrying water relentlessly
I think you're right but I also think that unless they've lived in Boston, most people hate the Celtics. So the guy who has been part of this organization for like 80% of its existence might have a weird chance at an unlikely upset.
That said, Jerry is a little polarizing himself.
I guess what I find hard to believe is that Domas somehow behind the scenes destroyed the vibes despite giving his all on the court.
I mean sure, I get a lot of stuff wrong and have no eyes on what happens off the court from 600 miles away but I've also never seen a player's wife build an influencer army on social media by giving away tickets and signed merch and arranging meet and greets for a half dozen or so people.
I'm not so sure about that; VF21 always said that, before the Kings moved to Sacramento, she was a Celtics fan.
But iirc she also said she had zero interest in them. I don't recall if that went to dislike or not. I know that Boston sports fans who didn't live through the 90s are awful (and the futility of the Red Sox who used to be the one team from Boston people widely liked went on for decades).
Caccia
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I like watching Carter play. I know many fans here are "apathetic," disinterested, or tuned out, but I can still cheer on the team, watch the young players like Devin improve, and marvel at how well DeRozan can shoot at this point in his career.
I agree with all you folks saying that Carter and the young players need more minutes now, not later. It will actually help the team come January 2026. The front office is asinine if they think trading him will contribute to better roster balance. Besides which, Carter is lightning fast and we lost quickness when De'Aaron decided to hiberate in his foxhole.
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I mean, that's one way to phrase it, but yeah, essentially. I still don't hate the talent grab attempt at all; everything just happened to blow up within 20 games of doing so. After the beam team year 2 regressed, there needed to be a change like that to shake up the core and try something to put them over the top. Unfortunately, we had no idea Fox was plotting his way out the whole time.
Obviously, it'd be damn nice to have Davion right now, but let's not forget the Raptors traded him for nothing too. He was sort of potentially on his last legs with the Heat and to his credit, really took the opportunity and is flourishing.
But we needed a real wing/forward and we settled for a SG who is playing up. Deni Avdija was there for the taking. Many of us liked him. Imagine if that was our big swing?
I know folks generally didn't like HB but we gave up a complimentary piece for one that didn't fit on top of everything else.
At the end we were too busy trying to read Fox's mind when the fact he kept rebuffing our extensions was all you need to know.
Yeah, you don't have to tell me about Deni, he's another dude that's been on my list for years. Some of these guys are just so freaking easy to see the breakout potential if/when they're in the right situation in the right role. Smart teams gobble them up and reap the benefits of the dumb teams. We'll soon see that if/when Keon heads to his next team
Deni was a lot more a "Monte archetype" sort of player over DDR, but I think we know Vivek had a big hand in getting him here.
DDR kind of just is what it is. You gave up the fit piece for a talent upgrade and to shake up the core that really started getting stale after Beam team year 2. It was certainly a risk, that if we had a fully bought in Fox, I think probably would have paid off in the end. We heard and got a lot of nonsense, but I'm guessing what ended up being reported was a pretty small portion of what actually happened. All the different factions pairing off and hating each other, etc.