Kings sign Carl Landry

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Remember last season the Kings would throw the ball to Chuck Hayes and had him go to work in the post? Remember what a joke that was? Mike Malone probably still had nightmares after watching those tapes. Now instead of Hayes, it's Landry filling that role. That game plan makes lot more sense now doesn't it?

As a starter, Landry isn't. We all know that. But as an off the bench spark playing 20 mins a game, you know, he ain't bad. The Kings are probably paying just a little bit over the market value for him, but 1) it's not my money and 2) we all know Sac needs to pay a premium to get these FAs, even someone just a backup and 3) it's not an egregious amount of money for a big. I did not want Landry, none of us do, but as long as the coaching staff is cognizant that he's not a starter (unlike the previous regime), then I guess it's not that bad a move -it's rarely bad to add a quality big to the team.


What this move also tells me is that:

1) They want to win now (which says a lot the Tyreke trade, they really don't want him. Don't think he can help them win).

2) More moves are coming regarding the jammed PF spots

3) The FO realizes that many players on the roster are not up to par.

All good, imo.
 

bajaden

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What need does this fill though? PDA said he wanted to improve passing and shot blocking yesterday right? And find a SF. How does this accomplish one of those?
Sometimes you have to make one move, so you can make another. I won't become obvious until the other move is made. Anyone that can't understand that shouldn't play chess. You'll hear checkmate a lot because you didn't pay enough attention to the moves that seemed meaningless.
 

pdxKingsFan

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Step 1 carve out the cancer and put together a group of teammate that can play professional basketball; Step 2 get an impact player in the 2014 lottery; Step 3 ... after players see that playing in Sac is no longer complete hell, overplay a good vet to be our 3rd or 4th best player SF, PG, or PF depending upon the position we draft.

Professional vets on 1-2 years deals is what's coming next.
This is what I see. Not going to be popular. I know people wanted a turnaround. But if this next draft is what people say it is we can potentially get a player of Tyreke's caliber who is a better fit for what we have if we stay in the lotto. Meanwhile make some trades to better round out the roster, hopefully some true veteran leadership.

I don't love or really even like this signing but I think he'll play 2 years and be a trade asset in year 3 or 4 which will also be around the time hopefully everything starts paying dividends.

People were hoping for a year one year like 99 but I think the best case reality is that we are in year zero and perhaps 2014-2015 can be a true breakout season as 99 was, only once we do a full housecleaning.
 
Yes we lost Evans, but his contribution to our team as a whole was marginal.
2nd leading scorer is hardly marginal, even, and especially, with our terrible team in mind.

He was a good defender, but we were still a god awful defensive team.
We were a god awful defensive team because we were bad as a team. There are team defense and 1-on-1 defense. We had good individual who can defense well, like Evans. We didn't defense well as a team. Two different things.

He could score but our team was full of scorers who could more than make up for his absence.
That still remain to be seen. But we know that Evans was the best iso player we had, so there's that.

He wasn't a great play maker and didn't make the players around him better.
And that's the most common argument from people on your side. "He wasn't a great play maker and he didn't make his teammates better." We were a team with no solid system (or a solid coach). I doubt you can run a play playing street ball. (You know what I mean... I'm not comparing directly with street ball, just as an analogy for a no-system team)


Edit: UGH.... my bad for hijacking the thread...
 

bajaden

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for 5 years we have tried to get a PF to push JT out. nobody has done it yet. Landry, hickson, Robinson.
Probably won't happen this time either. JT is too valuable with his ability to play both frontline spots. The only way he gets pushed out of his starting role, is because he's traded, or they actually bring in someone better, which isn't likely. The one guy I'd like to see moved is Hayes. Don't know if they can find a buyer though.
 
2nd leading scorer is hardly marginal, even, and especially, with our terrible team in mind.


We were a god awful defensive team because we were bad as a team. There are team defense and 1-on-1 defense. We had good individual who can defense well, like Evans. We didn't defense well as a team. Two different things.


That still remain to be seen. But we know that Evans was the best iso player we had, so there's that.


And that's the most common argument from people on your side. "He wasn't a great play maker and he didn't make his teammates better." We were a team with no solid system (or a solid coach). I doubt you can run a play playing street ball. (You know what I mean... I'm not comparing directly with street ball, just as an analogy for a no-system team)


Edit: UGH.... my bad for hijacking the thread...
Don't get me wrong dude. I loved Evans. I would have loved to keep him. I don't think we got enough value for him in that trade. I just don't think the world is ending because of this.
 
Sorry, I'm confused! How did you get from signing Landry, to Cuz being gone? Am I missing something? First off, Landry is a good player, and maybe they expect him to come off the bench, and not necessarily be starting next to Cuz. I have no idea, but I'm willing to wait and find out. Its also obvious to me that there's another move coming. They didn't go out and sign Landry so they could have a glut in the front line. It appears to me that their patching a hole in advance of creating one. As for Landry and Cousins not being able to play together, well, maybe if they had a coach the first time around that could design plays that worked well with the two of them together there might have been a different outcome.

On the other hand, its july 6th, and everything is going to hell in a handbasket, so personally I'm going to go and kill myself. I mean there's no hope. It probably would have been better if the team had moved to Seattle. That way we'd all feel better!
Pretty much. And I think Landry makes a ton of sense. Veteran. He's in his prime. Crucial part to GSW playoff team last year. Big upgrade to Ppat and JT, thus making them expendable. The ONLY place where he wasn't an incredibly valuable role player was his last stint with us. Where Westphal single handily did his best to destroy every big on the team. And he's coming off a mega-efficient, 6 MOY type season with GSW.
 
My reaction to the baffling news that Carl Landry is back as a King:

*macabre anticipation at the ways Bricklayer will actively savage Landry in every single Game Review thread next year*
 
Probably won't happen this time either. JT is too valuable with his ability to play both frontline spots. The only way he gets pushed out of his starting role, is because he's traded, or they actually bring in someone better, which isn't likely.
Similar things had been said about Evans.
 
Can you please refrain from throwing personal insults at those of us whose opinion it is that the front office has not been making good player personnel decisions so far this offseason? I have not used, and I promise to continue to avoid using any personal insults against those of us here who think the moves so far are just fine, or are optimistic that when the next shoe drops it will all make sense. Thanks.
That's fair but please, each of you say your your piece and be done with it. The treble negativity is two times too
much, in any case, and particularly at this early point in the game, and no, I won't apologize for my opinion.
 
Okay, so following along here , Tyreke Evans @ 11M per year is too much money, Carl Landry at 6.5M per year is just right. WTF? We just brought Landry back for another 4 years after he completely failed to compliment Cousins the first time. All of you who were on the fence about the Tyreke deal, where you at now?
$6.5 mil is exactly right for Landry. Don't let his last stint with us cloud your judgement
 
Don't let his last stint with us cloud your judgement
Oh because we had 3 coaches in 4 years and going through ownership and organization transformation? Or because we didn't have the right pieces around him? He wasn't being used the right way? Being jerked around different positions?
 
I agree with you, we should be a better team. Not good enough to be good, not bad enough to have a good chance at a high draft pick. This being in the middle greatly frustrates me.
I don't understand this line of thinking at all.

If you're a team full of 30 year old vets and are a 40 win team, then yes, you're in purgatory. But the Kings are still an incredibly young roster with plenty of potential to get better. MLM, IT, Cousins, Vasquez etc. I would gladly welcome 40 wins next season as long as we continue to build on it in future years
 
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