GM Pete D'Alessandro SPEAKS! SF search

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sactownfan

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OOOOHHHH Pete, Pete , Pete.... your killing me Petey!

Sacto Bee article

Ok so he man'd up and said some words about Evans and the search for a SF. Good news is that he realizes its a problem. Bad news is we should all brace for a let down.... that is, if it hasn't already been achieved. I wanna like this new front office and i will not totally panic... yet... but jeez the talent level is dropping fast and that A.I. situation. like it or not, right or wrong, was ugly. Anyway he had some thoughts on what he's looking for.

"We have to do something there," D'Alessandro said. "I might look at more of a veteran, someone to come in for a year or two, and who can really shoot it from deep. Passing and shooting have been our priorities. But while this is only one deal, I think what we did today is going to help us."

ok soooo..... we've missed out on about all the splashy free agents that make sense any sense for us. So now were looking for a vet that can apparently really shoot if from deep, pass and be totally ok with only a 1 or 2 year contract. well... oookay... good luck.

But who you guys think fits this bill? Dorell Wright?

(side note) thank the lord that Ben McLemore feel to us. We got the best player in the draft! He very well could end up being an All-star.
 
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If it is Wright....

Vasquez
McLemore
Wright
Patterson
Cousins

Lots of shooters, an very good pass first point guard and probably the most dominant low post scorer in the league. This lineup is better than most people think.
 
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If it is Wright....

Vasquez
McLemore
Wright
Patterson
Cousins

Lots of shooters, an very good pass first point guard and probably the most dominant low post scorer in the league. This lineup is better than most people think.
Make it happen pete....then wiggins comes in next year...then we're set
 

VF21

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D'Alessandro, who flew coast-to-coast midweek during one frenetic 24-hour span, anticipates other significant roster moves before the season. The preference, of course, is to unload one or more of the cumbersome contracts for Marcus Thornton (two years, $16.9 million), Salmons (one year, $7.58 million) or Chuck Hayes (two years, $11.68 million).
I think we've got a lot of stuff left to look forward to.
 

hrdboild

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Vivek Ranadive. Pete D'Alessandro. Mike Bratz. Michael Malone. Plotting behind closed doors. An active offseason in sweltering Sacramento. A presence during free agency. And now, finally, a pure point guard.
Oh F off Ailene. We already know you're happy. An active offseason? Really? Compared to who? Which free agent did we sign?

There was too much one-on-one, too little defense, no offensive cohesiveness – remember that death-by-dribbling offense? – and since Doug Christie departed, no floor leader to impose a sense of basketball sanity.
Too little defense? And we just traded Evans for Vasquez? Ha! She's in for a rude awakening, not that she's even going to recognize it. She'll just find someone else to blame for Vasquez's poor defense.

"You're walking a fine line," D'Alessandro said Thursday. "You want to maintain salary cap flexibility because you want to maintain the ability to strike, to go after a player you think is special. (That was Iguodala). Tyreke was definitely going to be too much money. But we're ecstatic. We've been looking for a pass-first point guard, and we got a good one in Greivis. If he were a free agent, this is someone we would have gone after."
Salary cap flexibility? You've got to be kidding me Pete. You know why Igoudala took $8 million less than we offered him to go to Golden State? Because they have a winning team. So you're going to let one of our best players go because $11 million is too much money for you and you're ecstatic that you got a pass-first point who can't defend anybody?

"We have to do something there," D'Alessandro said. "I might look at more of a veteran, someone to come in for a year or two, and who can really shoot it from deep. Passing and shooting have been our priorities. But while this is only one deal, I think what we did today is going to help us."
Absolutely hate everything he had to say there. He wants shooting and passing and he can't afford Evans at $11M but he can afford Igoudala at $13M and somehow trading Vasquez for Evans made us a better team? Oh my god, this is even worse than I thought. This guy doesn't get it at all. He wants to make us the next 110 point scoring, no defense playing, 55 game winning small ball flameout. Sure setting our sights high there.
 
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Oh F off Ailene. We already know you're happy. An active offseason? Really? Compared to who? Which free agent did we sign?



Too little defense? And we just traded Evans for Vasquez? Ha! She's in for a rude awakening, not that she's even going to recognize it. She'll just find someone else to blame for Vasquez's poor defense.



Salary cap flexibility? You've got to be kidding me Pete. You know why Igoudala took $8 million less than we offered him to go to Golden State? Because they have a winning team. So you're going to let one of our best players go because $11 million is too much money for you and you're ecstatic that you got a pass-first point who can't defend anybody?



Absolutely hate everything he had to say there. He wants shooting and passing and he can't afford Evans at $11M but he can afford Igoudala at $13M and somehow trading Vasquez for Evans made us a better team? Oh my god, this is even worse than I thought. This guy doesn't get it at all. He wants to make us the next 110 point scoring, no defense playing, 55 game winning small ball flameout. Sure setting our sights high there.
You're acting like a child who didn't get the toy he wanted. I guarantee you our GM is a lot smarter than you. What would you like him to do? Do you really believe Tyreke and Cousins really compliment each other? Sorry, but I don't. I actually like Tyreke but not at the expense of our stud center.
 
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Oh F off Ailene. We already know you're happy. An active offseason? Really? Compared to who? Which free agent did we sign?



Too little defense? And we just traded Evans for Vasquez? Ha! She's in for a rude awakening, not that she's even going to recognize it. She'll just find someone else to blame for Vasquez's poor defense.



Salary cap flexibility? You've got to be kidding me Pete. You know why Igoudala took $8 million less than we offered him to go to Golden State? Because they have a winning team. So you're going to let one of our best players go because $11 million is too much money for you and you're ecstatic that you got a pass-first point who can't defend anybody?



Absolutely hate everything he had to say there. He wants shooting and passing and he can't afford Evans at $11M but he can afford Igoudala at $13M and somehow trading Vasquez for Evans made us a better team? Oh my god, this is even worse than I thought. This guy doesn't get it at all. He wants to make us the next 110 point scoring, no defense playing, 55 game winning small ball flameout. Sure setting our sights high there.
this was always the fear, that bringing in a defense-first head coach in mike malone before hiring an offense-first GM like pete d'allesandro would have the potential for disaster. all hope is not lost, but i remain unimpressed by what i've seen and heard thus far from PDA. malone has impressed me in his philosophy and approach to the game, but it's certainly no favor to hand him a bunch of non-defensive personnel and ask him to make it click. one thing's for sure: this ben mclemore kid's gonna have to grow into the real-deal as fast as possible...
 

CruzDude

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Evans was not worth $11M and was a team level, one-dimensional liability. So not affording him is a giant plus. I love Tyreke but in the right situation and the Kings are not the right situation for him. He needs a team that can always put 3 long shooters with him to spread the floor for what he does best, get to the basket.

Vasquez can be the best thing to happen to the Kings if he plays like last year only now with Cuz and PPat to Pick-n-roll with. The Kings best game plan is through Cousins and with a motion offense and aggressive rebounding. Vasquez offers the best opportunity for motion offense, passing and leadership.

With Tyreke's $6.9M or $11M off the books the Kings have cap space and some flexibility they haven't had in quite awhile.

If McLemore looks like he can contribute right away, and Summer League will help to get a better handle on that, then Salmons get amnestied taking another $8M+ off the books. That provides greater cap flexibility to work a deal for a "VET" SF to help for a year or two.

So I like Vasguez incoming considering they were willing to let Tyreke go for nothing.
 
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You're acting like a child who didn't get the toy he wanted. I guarantee you our GM is a lot smarter than you. What would you like him to do? Do you really believe Tyreke and Cousins really compliment each other? Sorry, but I don't. I actually like Tyreke but not at the expense of our stud center.
Our GM has alot to prove. At this point, being smarter than hrdboild and any number of the posters on this board is one of those things. Remember, this guy is completely new. He has no track record. In fact, no one in any position of power has proven anything on this team. I think we are completely allowed to question the moves they make.
 
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I think we've got a lot of stuff left to look forward to.
If Thornton, Hayes and Salmons are detested here, why does anyone here think any NBA GM believes they have positive value? Voison can explain that one next. D'Allesandro has been doing his job so far. How do you blame him for not landing free agents who didn't want to come here? About the Tyreke trade - see the signature. Tyreke and Vasquez are incomparable in regards to playmaking, seeing the floor and setting up offense. No one here knows if Reke has anywhere near the bball iq to play the 1 at this level. Now that we have a true floor general the offense won't be selfish, congested iso garbage, and players can develop
 

Entity

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Evans was not worth $11M and was a team level, one-dimensional liability. So not affording him is a giant plus. I love Tyreke but in the right situation and the Kings are not the right situation for him. He needs a team that can always put 3 long shooters with him to spread the floor for what he does best, get to the basket.

Vasquez can be the best thing to happen to the Kings if he plays like last year only now with Cuz and PPat to Pick-n-roll with. The Kings best game plan is through Cousins and with a motion offense and aggressive rebounding. Vasquez offers the best opportunity for motion offense, passing and leadership.

With Tyreke's $6.9M or $11M off the books the Kings have cap space and some flexibility they haven't had in quite awhile.

If McLemore looks like he can contribute right away, and Summer League will help to get a better handle on that, then Salmons get amnestied taking another $8M+ off the books. That provides greater cap flexibility to work a deal for a "VET" SF to help for a year or two.

So I like Vasguez incoming considering they were willing to let Tyreke go for nothing.
i can get on board with that notion and line of thinking BUT if we wait to long what FA will be left that fills that super void we have? I know we can do a trade and take back ALOT of salary if need be. I guess i just want instant gratification so as not to worry anymore and enjoy summer league and stuff. Instead Im checking here and realgm and hoopshye and hoopsworld and twitter all throughout the day waiting for the bomb to hit.
 

rainmaker

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Oh F off Ailene. We already know you're happy. An active offseason? Really? Compared to who? Which free agent did we sign?



Too little defense? And we just traded Evans for Vasquez? Ha! She's in for a rude awakening, not that she's even going to recognize it. She'll just find someone else to blame for Vasquez's poor defense.



Salary cap flexibility? You've got to be kidding me Pete. You know why Igoudala took $8 million less than we offered him to go to Golden State? Because they have a winning team. So you're going to let one of our best players go because $11 million is too much money for you and you're ecstatic that you got a pass-first point who can't defend anybody?



Absolutely hate everything he had to say there. He wants shooting and passing and he can't afford Evans at $11M but he can afford Igoudala at $13M and somehow trading Vasquez for Evans made us a better team? Oh my god, this is even worse than I thought. This guy doesn't get it at all. He wants to make us the next 110 point scoring, no defense playing, 55 game winning small ball flameout. Sure setting our sights high there.
Agree.

What happened to the defensive culture? All I'm hearing now is we need more passing/shooting and we're going after some guys who frankly, can't guard me. Sorry, going after Vasquez/Calderon does not speak to defense being the priority. Sure you can try to surround them with good defenders but guarding the point of attack is huge, and the first line of defense is the PG. A huge % of the time that's where the penetration against comes from.

And no, Reke for Vasquez did not make us better. That's BS. If we use the cap space to bring in star talent, well that's different. But, we haven't and that deal on its own makes us worse. I'd prefer IT/Reke with a real coach to Vasquez/MLM.

Here is where I tell myself it's only July 5th and we have the full summer, so others don't need to reply with that. I'm going off what I've heard and seen thus far. Could still turn out to be a great summer, but so far it's anything but.
 
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Evans was not worth $11M and was a team level, one-dimensional liability. So not affording him is a giant plus. I love Tyreke but in the right situation and the Kings are not the right situation for him. He needs a team that can always put 3 long shooters with him to spread the floor for what he does best, get to the basket.

Vasquez can be the best thing to happen to the Kings if he plays like last year only now with Cuz and PPat to Pick-n-roll with. The Kings best game plan is through Cousins and with a motion offense and aggressive rebounding. Vasquez offers the best opportunity for motion offense, passing and leadership.

With Tyreke's $6.9M or $11M off the books the Kings have cap space and some flexibility they haven't had in quite awhile.

If McLemore looks like he can contribute right away, and Summer League will help to get a better handle on that, then Salmons get amnestied taking another $8M+ off the books. That provides greater cap flexibility to work a deal for a "VET" SF to help for a year or two.

So I like Vasguez incoming considering they were willing to let Tyreke go for nothing.
Now where did I hear that line before ... Oh well no comment on FO.
 
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Our GM has alot to prove. At this point, being smarter than hrdboild and any number of the posters on this board is one of those things. Remember, this guy is completely new. He has no track record. In fact, no one in any position of power has proven anything on this team. I think we are completely allowed to question the moves they make.
I agree but can we give him more than ten days before we want his head. This is ridiculous. Let him at least have a season to put things together before we question every move of his.
 

Bricklayer

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And as I've mentioned, and there are hints here again: I am not sure our rookie GM has a real feel for the limitations of the market he is in. If he was planning on dumping players for capspace and singing major free agents as a major part of his plan, he really should have stayed in Denver and waited for an opportunity with a larger market franchise.
 

SacTownKid

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Oh F off Ailene. We already know you're happy. An active offseason? Really? Compared to who? Which free agent did we sign?



Too little defense? And we just traded Evans for Vasquez? Ha! She's in for a rude awakening, not that she's even going to recognize it. She'll just find someone else to blame for Vasquez's poor defense.



Salary cap flexibility? You've got to be kidding me Pete. You know why Igoudala took $8 million less than we offered him to go to Golden State? Because they have a winning team. So you're going to let one of our best players go because $11 million is too much money for you and you're ecstatic that you got a pass-first point who can't defend anybody?



Absolutely hate everything he had to say there. He wants shooting and passing and he can't afford Evans at $11M but he can afford Igoudala at $13M and somehow trading Vasquez for Evans made us a better team? Oh my god, this is even worse than I thought. This guy doesn't get it at all. He wants to make us the next 110 point scoring, no defense playing, 55 game winning small ball flameout. Sure setting our sights high there.
You are missing the most major part of what he's talking about, A SF! Tyreke isn't a small forward.
 
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sactownfan

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Evans was not worth $11M and was a team level, one-dimensional liability. So not affording him is a giant plus. I love Tyreke but in the right situation and the Kings are not the right situation for him. He needs a team that can always put 3 long shooters with him to spread the floor for what he does best, get to the basket.

Vasquez can be the best thing to happen to the Kings if he plays like last year only now with Cuz and PPat to Pick-n-roll with. The Kings best game plan is through Cousins and with a motion offense and aggressive rebounding. Vasquez offers the best opportunity for motion offense, passing and leadership.

With Tyreke's $6.9M or $11M off the books the Kings have cap space and some flexibility they haven't had in quite awhile.

If McLemore looks like he can contribute right away, and Summer League will help to get a better handle on that, then Salmons get amnestied taking another $8M+ off the books. That provides greater cap flexibility to work a deal for a "VET" SF to help for a year or two.

So I like Vasguez incoming considering they were willing to let Tyreke go for nothing.
i totally agree btw. I wish we could've gotten more.... but Ben McL. will now be set up to shine and he complements Cousins Perfectly. Vasquez Complements Ben McL. and everyone else minus on the defensive end. Long term were doing good so far. Getting players to develop is the key and having a TRUE PG is gonna be part of that
 

Bricklayer

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Yes, and Brick I know you love Tyreke, heck I even thought he was a great talent that our previous regime completely screwed, but you have to admit it was a little tiring seeing him barrel into guys getting at least 1 offensive foul per game
Um...first of all Tyreke might be the most elusive driver in the NBA. With Manu done, his eurostep is the best in the business.

Secondly ANY to the basket player is going to pick up offensive fouls. Its actually a good sign. It means you are playing the game with no fear, on the attack.
 
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I'm all in with Pete! Been a fan since Brooke Steppe signed my program in 1986.....

Pete has made a conscious decision to build this team around DMC. Which, In my opinion takes a large set of brass balls. DMC without a doubt can be a Moses Maloneish type of star. He could also go Isaiah Rider on all of us.

I love the fact that Pete is hitching his wagon to DMC...good or bad it makes for a wild ride!
 
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Agree.

What happened to the defensive culture? All I'm hearing now is we need more passing/shooting and we're going after some guys who frankly, can't guard me. Sorry, going after Vasquez/Calderon does not speak to defense being the priority. Sure you can try to surround them with good defenders but guarding the point of attack is huge, and the first line of defense is the PG. A huge % of the time that's where the penetration against comes from.

And no, Reke for Vasquez did not make us better. That's BS. If we use the cap space to bring in star talent, well that's different. But, we haven't and that deal on its own makes us worse. I'd prefer IT/Reke with a real coach to Vasquez/MLM.

Here is where I tell myself it's only July 5th and we have the full summer, so others don't need to reply with that. I'm going off what I've heard and seen thus far. Could still turn out to be a great summer, but so far it's anything but.
I'm very interested to see what coach Malone does with the team. Tbh I like his vibe a lot more than I like PDA. He seems like a no-nonsense guy who values a style of basketball that is consistent with what I think wins championships. The sad thing is I think if there ever was some sort of falling out Vivek would side with PDA, just because he's a good talker. Nevertheless Vivek made our goals for the next few years very clear. Year 1: Change culture (at this rate from little defense to no defense lol), not be one of the worst defensive teams stat-wise. Year 2: Make playoffs.

My poor impression of the FO thus far however leads me to believe that our best move of this offseason may well turn out to be firing Keith Smart.
 
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Here's the main problem with how the team is currently constructed assuming you add a guy like Wright or a vet passer/shooter at the 3. If Cousins isn't on the floor it falls apart. It's great to have shooters finally, but Vazquez doesn't break down a Defense or demand a double team, McC doesn't break down a defense or demand a double team. No one outside of Counsins is a threat offensively unless the other team is forced to adjust defensive shape because of an elite talent. Winning teams have two of those for precisely this reason. If Cousins is hurt/in foul trouble/tired/ejected, this team is going to have a terrible time scoring against a defense that simply plays determined man up defense. It's not a recipe that can win in the playoffs at all. It's a recipe that wins against bad teams who play bad defense because you make easy passes and hit open jumpers. You don't get those in tough games against good teams. It's precisely why many of us thought keeping Tyreke or being able to immediately leverage losing him into an impact talent was important.

I'd say we're building a team to perpetually either get the 8 seed and get stomped, or perpetually just miss the playoffs and never get an impact draft choice.
 
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Yes, and Brick I know you love Tyreke, heck I even thought he was a great talent that our previous regime completely screwed, but you have to admit it was a little tiring seeing him barrel into guys getting at least 1 offensive foul per game
I was more tired of him having to barrel into guys because everyone else stood still while he had the ball, didn't space the floor, didn't set good screens etc. Same applies to every player, but Tyreke picking up an offensive foul driving is his equivalent (or maybe even a slightly better scenario in that he's attacking the rim) to IT/MT chucking up a ill-advised jumpshot. Poor offensive system doesn't create good looks for anybody, ISO or non-iso players.
 
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And as I've mentioned, and there are hints here again: I am not sure our rookie GM has a real feel for the limitations of the market he is in. If he was planning on dumping players for capspace and singing major free agents as a major part of his plan, he really should have stayed in Denver and waited for an opportunity with a larger market franchise.
Except Iggy would have still signed with the GSW:)
 

rainmaker

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I'm very interested to see what coach Malone does with the team. Tbh I like his vibe a lot more than I like PDA. He seems like a no-nonsense guy who values a style of basketball that is consistent with what I think wins championships. The sad thing is I think if there ever was some sort of falling out Vivek would side with PDA, just because he's a good talker. Nevertheless Vivek made our goals for the next few years very clear. Year 1: Change culture (at this rate from little defense to no defense lol), not be one of the worst defensive teams stat-wise. Year 2: Make playoffs.

My poor impression of the FO thus far however leads me to believe that our best move of this offseason may well turn out to be firing Keith Smart.
As am I, but there's already evidence PDA and Malone share different philosophies which might be quite a problem. Malone preached defense, defense and more defense. He wanted Reke. PDA decided we didn't need Reke and has instead gone after Calderon/Vasquez. Malone preaches defense, PDA preaches passing/shooting.

Becoming Den part II does not appear to coincide with Malone's philosophy but appears to be where we're heading.

And we don't need a shooter/passer/defender at SF anymore. That's what we needed with a Reke/MLM backcourt. Now, with Vasquez/MLM we need a SF who get his own off the bounce and create. As much as I was against going after this guy until 24 hours ago, we need Rudy Gay. We need that type. A role playing SF no longer works, yet that appears what PDA wants.
 
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VF21

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If Thornton, Hayes and Salmons are detested here, why does anyone here think any NBA GM believes they have positive value? Voison can explain that one next. D'Allesandro has been doing his job so far. How do you blame him for not landing free agents who didn't want to come here? About the Tyreke trade - see the signature. Tyreke and Vasquez are incomparable in regards to playmaking, seeing the floor and setting up offense. No one here knows if Reke has anywhere near the bball iq to play the 1 at this level. Now that we have a true floor general the offense won't be selfish, congested iso garbage, and players can develop
WTF? I certainly didn't say that.