Kings want Evans (latest news, tweets, etc.)
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Have you ever wondered what Tyreke would be like if he had played PG the last 4 years? He wouldn't be a little waterbug like IT and certainly not as cute but by now he might have developed a very effective PG game. OK, so we let Tyreke walk and replace him with some unknown PG. Who? Is this new PG going to shoot 48% and have as many assists as Tyreke did in his first year? Will he be young and an elite athlete? Will he take it to the hole with so much authority that defenses have to adjust for him? This is what pisses me off about the use of Tyreke. Defenses had to adjust for him as a PG and after four years he might have learned how to handle that. Now all he knows is how to stand in the corner to be a three point threat. We have screwed Tyreke and if he left because he didn't want to but up with that bull**** anymore, I wouldn't blame him.
Why do you think he came out of the meeting with Vivek, PDA, and Malone in such a good mood? Do you think he is happy because the Kings said they were going to let him go? Why don't we stick with the facts as we know them and not your unshakeable and occasionally illogical thoughts about PG. It is exactly your way of thinking that has held back his development.
Why do you think he came out of the meeting with Vivek, PDA, and Malone in such a good mood? Do you think he is happy because the Kings said they were going to let him go? Why don't we stick with the facts as we know them and not your unshakeable and occasionally illogical thoughts about PG. It is exactly your way of thinking that has held back his development.
Come on Vivek and PDA! Don't drop the ball on this one!
Obviously Tyreke wants to be a King and he is giving them the chance to match the offer, but restructure it so he gets the same money and cap friendlier term for the Kings. If he signs the NO offer sheet, it would make it tougher for the Kings to match.
Please don't Drop the Ball on Tyreke!
I expect (hope) the Kings and Tyreke to come to terms by tonight!
Obviously Tyreke wants to be a King and he is giving them the chance to match the offer, but restructure it so he gets the same money and cap friendlier term for the Kings. If he signs the NO offer sheet, it would make it tougher for the Kings to match.
Please don't Drop the Ball on Tyreke!
I expect (hope) the Kings and Tyreke to come to terms by tonight!
Sayyyy whaaaaaa? My way of thinking is what the old GM, and the new GM have talked about. I don't get how you feel you know more than both of them and the coaching staffs who also came out and said they want another ball handler. Maybe they have that way of thinking because it's true?
If you want Reke as a sole ball handler/distributor on on the floor with our "A-team" then so be it. Prepare for craptacular offensive execution.
If you want Reke as a sole ball handler/distributor on on the floor with our "A-team" then so be it. Prepare for craptacular offensive execution.
They also said they were intrigued with McLemore and Tyreke because of their skills. Tell me why Tyreke was happy after the meeting. What's your guess? Do you seriously think he is happy because he was told he would be traded, used as a SF or anything else? Clearly McLemore is to be the SG or we have screwed up yet another draft.
I am just as dismayed by your comments so knock off the hysterics. BTW, I NEVER said I wanted him to be the sole facilitator. Those are your assumptions. I have said this team needs facilitation by committee. I recognize both Tyreke's skills AND his weaknesses. If we don't work around that, we will have lost a valuable asset. Iggy would have been great.
I am just as dismayed by your comments so knock off the hysterics. BTW, I NEVER said I wanted him to be the sole facilitator. Those are your assumptions. I have said this team needs facilitation by committee. I recognize both Tyreke's skills AND his weaknesses. If we don't work around that, we will have lost a valuable asset. Iggy would have been great.
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What's the use of having a facilitator who can't facilitate? I never said I wanted a REAL PG. I don't care if he is a combo guard, as long as they can distribute, and make others around him better then it's all good to me.
I felt that Iggy and Reke could have worked because we had two handlers. I DON'T think giving Cousins the ball in the high post will work though because while Cousins is a good passer I don't think he would be consistent enough.
I felt that Iggy and Reke could have worked because we had two handlers. I DON'T think giving Cousins the ball in the high post will work though because while Cousins is a good passer I don't think he would be consistent enough.
it should be noted that no PG should be a team's only ball handler and distributor. i don't care if it's steve nash in his prime, there must be some overlap in basic skillsets. and, considering that ben mclemore has a relatively weak handle, and isn't likely to become a top-flight passer as a SG, the kings should be looking for ball handling/passing at any/all other positions. so, whether the kings re-sign evans and move him back to PG, let tyreke walk and sign jose calderon, or pursue another option, it's hardly a bad idea to consider bringing in a SF who can handle the ball and/or effectively distribute, correct? if so, what exactly are you arguing about? i don't think anybody denies that tyreke should be paired with talent that can share in ballhandling/passing responsibilities. in fact, most of us are actively hoping that the kings finally bring in a capable, starting-quality SF to fill in some of those gaps...
I fully expect him to update his evaluation to "below average court vision for a starting point guard who is being paid 12 million dollars a year, while not being the primary option on the team, who has been in the league for multiple years in addition to being a poor shooter, that needs to rely on kicking the ball out to be effective".
Could be interesting to look at Turner. You wonder how much confidence he has left in his game after Collins seemed to do all he could to stamp it out, but his offensive numbers from a support player's perspective weren't bad:
Season 2012-13
Age 24
Pos SF
G 82
GS 82
MP 35.3
FG 5.4
FGA 12.8
FG% 0.419
3P 0.7
3PA 1.9
3P% 0.365
FT 1.9
FTA 2.5
FT% 0.74
ORB 0.7
DRB 5.6
TRB 6.3
AST 4.3
STL 0.9
BLK 0.2
TOV 2.3
PF 2.4
PTS 13.3
The question is if he can guard the position competently. His defensive rating wasn't bad last season. He could be had for a decent price given the rebuild in Philly right now.
Season 2012-13
Age 24
Pos SF
G 82
GS 82
MP 35.3
FG 5.4
FGA 12.8
FG% 0.419
3P 0.7
3PA 1.9
3P% 0.365
FT 1.9
FTA 2.5
FT% 0.74
ORB 0.7
DRB 5.6
TRB 6.3
AST 4.3
STL 0.9
BLK 0.2
TOV 2.3
PF 2.4
PTS 13.3
The question is if he can guard the position competently. His defensive rating wasn't bad last season. He could be had for a decent price given the rebuild in Philly right now.
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If you were to say he's not a great decision maker and that needs improvement, I'd completely agree. But vision is different. He's repeatedly shown he has it. It's more a question of making the right decisions. Poor vision implies he has no hope or ability to make these passes in the first place. When Jwill threw behind the back passes into the second row, it wasn't due to a lack of vision, it was decision making.
And some of his decision making is on him, some is on his role frequently changing. He has shown improvement in his decision making, but I think we'd both agree it'll have to continue improving if we're to become a playoff team with him running the point. But I also wouldn't sit here and say that's unlikely to happen. Even Nash/Stockton took years to learn the position at this level. All PG's go through their lumps in the NBA aside from a select few.
And some of his decision making is on him, some is on his role frequently changing. He has shown improvement in his decision making, but I think we'd both agree it'll have to continue improving if we're to become a playoff team with him running the point. But I also wouldn't sit here and say that's unlikely to happen. Even Nash/Stockton took years to learn the position at this level. All PG's go through their lumps in the NBA aside from a select few.