Kings want Evans (latest news, tweets, etc.)

Bricklayer said:
Um...that doesn't make any sense. Why would we give him a contract with an average of $12mil a year when we could just match the contract at $11mil a year?

I'm actually less concerned than some by that blog because it appears to show a shaky grasp of the economics here.
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Could be Reke/Tellem saying, NO is offering 11M per as a 6th man, if you want Reke to willingly sign with you(Kings) as a starter we're looking for 12M per, show us you want him, if not we'll sign this offer sheet which is rumored to make matching difficult. And you(Kings) can match the offer sheet, but Reke won't be a happy camper upon returning.


But who knows.....doesn't make sense unless it's some kind of a symbolic threat.
 
HndsmCelt said:
I don't buy it. You simply do not schedule a late night meeting, that includes ownership with a hotly pursued FA just to blow smoke up his butt. They left the meeting saying they wanted Evans back. So I am guessing Reek was given assurances, BECAUSE they planed to aggressively peruse Iggy today and they did NOT want him to bolt. BOTH players can be had but only if the owners are careful about how they time and structure the deals. Salomons will have to be amnestied and some cap space cleared but I would find it odd if PDA and Randive would waste time either BSing Tyreke or chasing AI if they did not think they can land Iggy and keep Evans.
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Yeah...we don't know the details of what they spoke with Tyreke about. It could have been about this very thing.
Telling him that they want to make the team better and that they are going to go all-out in pursuit of AI who would really compliment Tyreke/B-Mac, but that this pursuit of AI only makes sense if they are able to keep him as well.

Hopefully we'll find out in the next couple of days...as I really don't want this dragging on for a week or more.
 
HndsmCelt said:
I don't buy it. You simply do not schedule a late night meeting, that includes ownership with a hotly pursued FA just to blow smoke up his butt. They left the meeting saying they wanted Evans back. So I am guessing Reek was given assurances, BECAUSE they planed to aggressively peruse Iggy today and they did NOT want him to bolt. BOTH players can be had but only if the owners are careful about how they time and structure the deals. Salomons will have to be amnestied and some cap space cleared but I would find it odd if PDA and Randive would waste time either BSing Tyreke or chasing AI if they did not think they can land Iggy and keep Evans.
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Yes. As Tyreke is real happy and the latest tweet said we are close to coming to an agreement with Iggy, I am going to assume all kinds of cap freeing moves are about to be made.

Would we be happy with both or what?
 
Where's the Capt when you need him?

Can we frontload one contract(Iggy) and backload the other(Reke)?

Or are neither eligible given their time in the league?
 
Uncia03 said:
Yep I agree.

It could be that they are perfectly willing to match an $11m/year contract...and are playing it coy making it seem as if they won't match in the hopes that he does sign an offer sheet at $11m rather than seeing that price tag increase.

And who knows...NO isn't in the best of situations salary wise...what if they only offer him 10.5m or something?

Let him sign an offer sheet if he has to...and if it is 11m or less then match. It's not ideal for him to sign an offer and we match...but at this point...I just want him on this team next year alongside DMC and B-Mac.
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i like this theory...make it happen pete
 
rainmaker said:
Where's the Capt when you need him?

Can we frontload one contract(Iggy) and backload the other(Reke)?

Or are neither eligible given their time in the league?
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Tyreke is the Kings free agent and they hold his Bird rights. So they could exceed the cap to sign him regardless. The issue is that Iguodala is a free agent and thus the team would have to have the cap room outright to sign him. With Tyreke's cap hold the Kings don't have much caproom. Amnestying Salmons would get some more but not nearly enough to sign Iguodala at the numbers being thrown around. A sign-and-trade with Denver could open up the extra room if they'd be willing to take back salary (say Thornton or Patterson+Jimmer) but otherwise the only way for the Kings to sign AI would be to renounce their rights to Evans and let him walk.

We'll see.
 
rainmaker said:
Where's the Capt when you need him?

Can we frontload one contract(Iggy) and backload the other(Reke)?

Or are neither eligible given their time in the league?
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Well, we can front/backload, but not a ton. Tyreke is our own free agent, so he can get 7.5% raises (or decreases), while Iguodala can get a maximum of 4.5% increases (decreases) because he's another team's free agent.

I'm not sure how frontloading one and backloading the other would help with the salary cap. Seems like you'd want to maximally backload both contracts in order to sneak in under the cap during the signing year, which is when it counts.

(As an aside, I would be strongly in favor of a salary system where teams were not allowed to sign a contract that made them exceed the salary cap in ANY season covered by the contract, but that's unlikely and as far as this discussion goes not terribly relevant.)
 
Glenn said:
Yes. As Tyreke is real happy and the latest tweet said we are close to coming to an agreement with Iggy, I am going to assume all kinds of cap freeing moves are about to be made.

Would we be happy with both or what?
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Oh we would be VERY happy!
 
Entity said:
Gary we can't see to get any takers in a trade. We are going to ask you to do whats best for the team and retire. :)
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Why can't you all amnesty me? Is my salary too low to be worth amnestying? I feel worthless right now. I guess I could retire due to injury and try to make a comeback in 3-4 years =/

As for the Reke situation....

hmmm... Not really sure. I don't really want Iggy if you aren't pairing him with Evans. I would rather grab a shooting SF (but there aren't many out there). I would rather the PG wasn't that great a shooter so that he could worry about distributing, and getting open shots for SF/SG. Oh well. I wouldn't be terribly upset if Evans left but I would be upset if Evans left and we signed Iggy. They should go hand in hand.
 
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lol i would die with happiness if we got both...this is the year to strike for the playoffs with coaching chages for two playoff teams- memphis and denver could see a drop...lakers may lose dwight...lets go!
 
kingwin said:
lol i would die with happiness if we got both...this is the year to strike for the playoffs with coaching chages for two playoff teams- memphis and denver could see a drop...lakers may lose dwight...lets go!
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Yah I would be happy too.

Personally I am not really stoked about just having one or the other whether it be just Evans, or just Iggy. Evans, because I don't think we'll find a ball handling SF (other than Iggy) and Iggy because I would rather have a SF that can shoot if he were paired with a more traditional PG.
 
Gary said:
Yah I would be happy too.

Personally I am not really stoked about just having one or the other whether it be just Evans, or just Iggy. Evans, because I don't think we'll find a ball handling SF (other than Iggy) and Iggy because I would rather have a SF that can shoot if he were paired with a more traditional PG.
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That's pretty much my view. Iguodala is a better defender, worse at attacking the rim off the dribble and in sum a lateral move or slight upgrade at $14 million a year.

One without the other is not a step forward AND it leaves the team without caproom to add any other free agents of any real value. And if it is a situation where the team is forced to choose one or the other I'd go Tyreje. At least with Evans you'd have potential for real growth in his game.
 
funkykingston said:
That's pretty much my view. Iguodala is a better defender, worse at attacking the rim off the dribble and in sum a lateral move or slight upgrade at $14 million a year.

One without the other is not a step forward AND it leaves the team without caproom to add any other free agents of any real value. And if it is a situation where the team is forced to choose one or the other I'd go Tyreje. At least with Evans you'd have potential for real growth in his game.
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I'd hope our front office feels the same. They just have to
 
NewArena said:
I'd hope our front office feels the same. They just have to
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The only question at this point is are they willing to pay both? My guess is no. Tyreke in my mind is gone, which I think is probably the worst case scenario for the team. Overpaying for Iggy, losing out on a star type of player and your PG to fill in a SF slot that will lead probably to about the same amount of wins and losses, while destroying your cap room. Iggy, please decline!
 
Sac.Kings said:
The only question at this point is are they willing to pay both? My guess is no. Tyreke in my mind is gone, which I think is probably the worst case scenario for the team. Overpaying for Iggy, losing out on a star type of player and your PG to fill in a SF slot that will lead probably to about the same amount of wins and losses, while destroying your cap room. Iggy, please decline!
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Strongly disagree sf is the major hole on this team and had been forever. If we can get iggy its a win. I have a feeling were trying to get both.
 
It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. $14 million for Igoudala is a small overpay but worth it I think if we retain Tyreke. We're unlikely to sign a better free agent and that gives us enough talent to compete with almost anyone right away along with a lot of potential to get better. Without Tyreke it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. He's a guy who can help take our young talent and put it over the top. But if it's one or the other, I'd much rather have Tyreke (even if he costs us the same $14 million) than Igoudala. Cousins/McLemore/Evans are all young guys who are likely to get better. It's questionable if Igoudala is a better player than Tyreke today, even without accounting for potential. The other problem would be that losing Evans puts a lot more pressure on Igoudala and McLemore to be go-to scorers and we already know Igoudala isn't that guy. The rap on McLemore in college is that he wasn't that guy either.

But then we haven't actually done anything negative yet. Getting Igoudala in early and throwing a figure out there if nothing else shifts us to the front of the line as the team others will have to match. If we have any interest in signing him at all, it's probably a good thing to be agressive early on like this. It sounds like we told Tyreke that our intention is still to keep him. There are ways for us to accomplish both and another week before the paperwork can be signed anyway, so it's too early to panic. It's possible the Igoudala offer never makes it to the table. Salmons has to be amnestied first of all and then we need to explore trades asap. For those that thought Thornton and JT was too much to give up for Igoudala, would you do it if it was our only shot to keep Tyreke? I'm not going to be laughing if Geoff's idiotic decision to overpay for Travis Freaking Outlaw is what stands between us and re-signing Tyreke.
 
Sam0ah said:
Strongly disagree sf is the major hole on this team and had been forever. If we can get iggy its a win. I have a feeling were trying to get both.
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Well yes, you are correct in saying that it is the biggest hole on this team because we had Tyreke helping to run the point with IT. With Tyreke gone, IT would be the clear starter, and that is something I do not want to see next season. I would like to get both, but it's not looking all that realistic at the moment
 
Sam0ah said:
Strongly disagree sf is the major hole on this team and had been forever. If we can get iggy its a win. I have a feeling were trying to get both.
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We've had like 3 decent SFs in team history- to clarify, one great (Peja), two decent (Big Nasty, Artist).
 
Darth Divac said:
We've had like 3 decent SFs in team history- to clarify, one great (Peja), two decent (Big Nasty, Artist).
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Before your time whippersnapper, but L-Train was a good one for a few years, and Eddie Johnson, although he was a 6th man, came to town with the team. We haven't been particularly SF poor over our team history really. Just these last 4-5 years since Artest left we simply have not found any answers.
 
RT “@James_Ham: FWIW, told today that Tyreke Evans is willing to sign with the Kings if they match the Pelicans money. Prefers to stay.”
 
Yeah...at this point I'd be surprised if we don't end up retaining Tyreke for around the 11m/year mark.
If you get him at that price and amnesty Salmons...you could still go after someone like AK....and we still have Thornton/IT/Jimmer who should be able to fetch something (defensive big) if necessary.
 
Not sure what Tyrekes agent thinks is going to happen, but why are they waiting to agree with someone? He isn't getting a
better offer than that
 
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