And It Begins....Pelicans About to Talk to Tyreke Evans
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Just who in the hell said he was a worthy replacement for Tyreke???????????????????? Huh???? You want to throw some names out there, or are you bent on taking cheap shots at unknowns. I know of no one that said that. Vasquez was brought up as a possible peice of retribution, and thats it. So was Lopez. Why, because those are the only two players on the damm team under contract that are worth a damm.
I'm just guessing here, but I don't think they're going to go into the room, offer Tyreke several million dollars fewer than the Pelicans did, and then tell him they won't match if he signs. I think the fact that we are meeting with Tyreke means we are taking this offer seriously, whatever CD and Amick and "sources close to Evans" say.
If we don't intend to match, why go to LA to meet with him?
If we don't intend to match, why go to LA to meet with him?
They may not cut him if Tyreke indicates he won't sign, though.
OK, so putting out my opinion that Vasquez is overrated and not a good replacement is snarky?
I'm not choosing to be anything. I'm putting my opinion out there on a forum, driven by opinions, without calling names or personal attacks just as you and everyone else is doing. I see no name calling or personal attacks.
I'm not choosing to be anything. I'm putting my opinion out there on a forum, driven by opinions, without calling names or personal attacks just as you and everyone else is doing. I see no name calling or personal attacks.
I agree. I remember posting a note that Tyreke needed to be overpaid and was instantly misrepresented as saying that I thought ALL Kings should be overpaid. Right now, two people will require overpaying although I think the market will be very clear about Cuz and the amount of salary is clear. We then need to get rid of, trade, dump, or whatever method is used, the rest of the high salaried players, overpaid or not, but those with substantial salaries, to bring the team salary into some reasonable number. This doesn't mean it has to happen in one year but that should be the goal.
Keep the stars and fill in with not only complimentary role players but inexpensive complimentary role players.
This may mean we can't sign Iggy but if McLemore lives up to what a lot of people besides us think is his ceiling, we may go in a different direction based on passes to an off the ball playing McLemore, an attacking and occasional 3 pt shooting Tyreke and a monster in the middle who has a variety of techniques. Like most teams, we may need to depend on proper use of the CBA and not simply an unlimited pocketbook, one of the goals of the present CBA. In four years, we may be in a similar situation wondering how much we will pay McLemore.
I doubt if we could afford Cuz, Reke, Iggy and McLemore but as Iggy's contract would run to the date McLemore starts a bidding war in 4 years, it might all work out fine if we can get Iggy.
Keep the stars and fill in with not only complimentary role players but inexpensive complimentary role players.
This may mean we can't sign Iggy but if McLemore lives up to what a lot of people besides us think is his ceiling, we may go in a different direction based on passes to an off the ball playing McLemore, an attacking and occasional 3 pt shooting Tyreke and a monster in the middle who has a variety of techniques. Like most teams, we may need to depend on proper use of the CBA and not simply an unlimited pocketbook, one of the goals of the present CBA. In four years, we may be in a similar situation wondering how much we will pay McLemore.
I doubt if we could afford Cuz, Reke, Iggy and McLemore but as Iggy's contract would run to the date McLemore starts a bidding war in 4 years, it might all work out fine if we can get Iggy.
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Right. We can offer that 5th year and maybe a hair less per year.
Anyone remember this?
http://www.aolnews.com/2007/08/28/kevin-martin-inks-55-million-with-kings/
Anyone remember this?
http://www.aolnews.com/2007/08/28/kevin-martin-inks-55-million-with-kings/
Akis Yerocostas @Aykis164m
Per @sam_amick, the Kings are considering matching Evans offer. IMO, they should.
Evans has serious interest in signing with the Pelicans, and will likely agree to sign the deal if the Kings tell him later today in their meeting in Los Angeles that they will not match. Owner Vivek Ranadive, general manager Pete D'Alessandro and coach Michael Malone are expected to take part in the meeting, and a person with knowledge of the Kings' thinking said they are considering matching the offer if he agrees to sign it. Evans is visiting with the Detroit Pistons before seeing the Kings.
Per @sam_amick, the Kings are considering matching Evans offer. IMO, they should.
Evans has serious interest in signing with the Pelicans, and will likely agree to sign the deal if the Kings tell him later today in their meeting in Los Angeles that they will not match. Owner Vivek Ranadive, general manager Pete D'Alessandro and coach Michael Malone are expected to take part in the meeting, and a person with knowledge of the Kings' thinking said they are considering matching the offer if he agrees to sign it. Evans is visiting with the Detroit Pistons before seeing the Kings.
Here's the Amick article http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ew-orleans-pelicans-sacramento-kings/2480675/
the sign-and-trade scenario with new orleans is actually one of the very rare instances in which a sign-and-trade represents a realistic option under the terms of the new CBA. NO would use the trade to create the necessary cap space to sign tyreke evans as a free agent, and sacramento would get something in return rather than seeing evans walk for nothing. that said, i'm not terribly interested in the pelicans' scraps, and i consider evans considerably more valuable at 4/$44 million than whatever i could get from NO in return, unless they were about to consider parting with anthony davis. they're not. so i match the pelicans' offer and consider moving tyreke down the road if he's not in my long-term plans. then it's an entire league i'm potentially trading with, rather than a single team with limited resources with which to recoup my investment...
wtf, there are only 3 scenario's at this point. Sign him, he signs an offer sheet that's matched or not, or sign and trade.
At this point it looks like the Kings are letting Evans drive the process. They are letting him get offers so option 1 is not going to happen.
Until he actually verbally agrees to an offer sheet it's all mute.
At this point it looks like the Kings are letting Evans drive the process. They are letting him get offers so option 1 is not going to happen.
Until he actually verbally agrees to an offer sheet it's all mute.
So they will offer him $11 mil and Evans will sign it? It's a lot of guess work but makes sense. I'm glad they jumped right in before Evans met with too many teams. There's that "respect" thing that I think is also important. If he is offered $11 mil by the smooth talking Vivek and told he will be a PG by Malone, he can't rightfully expect a whole lot more. He can't move his new home to NO or Detroit and that may factor in. Playing next to McLemore may factor in. After 4 years of losing, he might want to be on a team that is definitely on the upswing and be a substantial part of it playing the position he wants. My GUESS, yes GUESS, about Tyreke is that money isn't the only item important in his life. Having a smooth talking billionaire describe how much he wants him may have an impact.
It isn't all about money with some players.
It isn't all about money with some players.
I think a big factor is Vivek describing the global plans for the franchise, Tyreke's money making/endorsement possibilities out of that. IF they can convince Reke that that WILL happen (that's where Vivek's convincing could come in handy), THEN you say "Hey, we want you, you'll be PG, you'll be famous globally, we want you to help us win a championship, but you know it would really help us if you took a tad less than what you can get somewere else, how bout 5 years at 45mil, so we can put as much talent around you as possible. But you know what? You can be damn sure we'll be doing everything in our power to make you famous in India and around the world, and we think you can make up that small difference when this team blows up. Cause we're pretty smart tech people. And I know a guy in India..."
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