i have no problem paying Tyreke. I also am under no illusion that teams will just let us have him, they are going to come hard at him and we are going to have to pay to keep him here. Ive found peace with that and I sure as hell hope we lock him up long term and don't let him walk over a few million a year, which whilst it adds up, in my opinion would be a step back letting a massive piece of our future prosperity walk and no doubt prosper elsewhere.
Tyreke Evans offered Qualifying Offer making him a Restricted Free Agent
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indeed. i wasn't sure it was a great contract, given his injury history and size. but while his ankles remain a legitimate cause for concern, i should have known better regarding curry's trajectory, given that a player of his talent was bound to develop more expediently in his second post-keith smart season...
then again, maybe kings fans should know better, too, given that any young talent leftover on the roster, tyreke evans included, is likely to improve due to nothing more than the absence of a disastrously ineffectual regime, keith smart included...
then again, maybe kings fans should know better, too, given that any young talent leftover on the roster, tyreke evans included, is likely to improve due to nothing more than the absence of a disastrously ineffectual regime, keith smart included...
That's not true. Easy to say that now, but when he signed that extension the majority of Bay Area media outlets and GS fans called it highly questionable and a risk, as no one was confident he could play more than half a season and whether his ankle would ever get better. And it's still a risk. He re-tweeks that ankle almost every month or two.
It was a calculated risk and one that has paid off so far. But his ankle is still extremely prone to injury, and severe injury at that.
It was a calculated risk and one that has paid off so far. But his ankle is still extremely prone to injury, and severe injury at that.
Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/2013/06/30/5534480/ailene-voisin-dalessandro-plans.html#storylink=cpy
Voisin's article seems to make it pretty clear the front office is NOT just going to let Evans go without a fight.
Voisin's article seems to make it pretty clear the front office is NOT just going to let Evans go without a fight.
Yeah I posted that earlier. Appears everything from CD and the silence around Reke was just a smokescreen. He's obviously a major priority, and at PG.
I find it a little amusing after all the nonsense/debate we've heard for years about how Reke is NAPG, that one of the first things a new GM will do is.....move him back to PG. I think a few will be shocked at how well this team can click and find success around a Cuz/Reke/MLM trio/core, especially if we add a guy like Iggy to it. That's a playoff squad next year.
I find it a little amusing after all the nonsense/debate we've heard for years about how Reke is NAPG, that one of the first things a new GM will do is.....move him back to PG. I think a few will be shocked at how well this team can click and find success around a Cuz/Reke/MLM trio/core, especially if we add a guy like Iggy to it. That's a playoff squad next year.
Well it certainly would be better if he ends up in Dallas. Then they are out of the Reke hunt, and Houston won't be in it because of Harden.
Still concerned about San Antonio, but encouraged by Ailene's article -- if we indeed want Reke back, its not likely the Spurs of all franchises will hugely overpay for him (or anyone), so anything they offer would likely be matchable as long as we don't lose Reke's heart in the process.
Still concerned about San Antonio, but encouraged by Ailene's article -- if we indeed want Reke back, its not likely the Spurs of all franchises will hugely overpay for him (or anyone), so anything they offer would likely be matchable as long as we don't lose Reke's heart in the process.
Oh no, I have watched what they were doing with the same thought. Don't even think I would call them underdogs. More like potentially motivated buyers. It doubled my pain when they swapped Jrue for Noel. Cleared money and opened a Reke need at the same time.
On the other hand, Philly has the attractions of home, as well as being a damn nice city if I do say so myself, but they are now a team with considerably less going on than we have, so we might not be fighting such an uphill battle. They are starting over. Guess it will depend on just how silly a contract they throw Reke's way.
On the other hand, Philly has the attractions of home, as well as being a damn nice city if I do say so myself, but they are now a team with considerably less going on than we have, so we might not be fighting such an uphill battle. They are starting over. Guess it will depend on just how silly a contract they throw Reke's way.
It seems to me as if Philadelphia is in a rebuilding process and is aiming for one of the potential stars from the 2014 draft like Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Marcus Smart, etc. If they were to sign Tyreke, I don't know how well they would do, but they would definitely not have the 25% chance of winning the lottery. I think they are just going to tank and sacrifice this season for a better future down the line. At least, that's what I hope, we don't need any competition to resign Tyreke. 
Other than being closer to home, money aside, I see no reason Tyreke would want to go there. However, both money and being closer to home might be enough depending on what Tyreke is looking for? He would in all likelyhood be the man there! But, one has to believe that he's tired of a losing culture, and would like to go somewhere he can win. The burning question is, does he think that place is sacramento?
The good news there is that Philly probably doesn't care that Tyreke is from the area. Attractive option for him? Definitely. But like Brick said I would think we have more going on for us atm than Philly does. And we do get to match any offer. I can't see the 76ers throwing a boatload of money at Tyreke, but I guess stranger things have happened
I don't see that happening. The new Sixers management is looking for a superstar, either through the draft or free agency. They supposedly have every intention of tanking/developing this year for another raffle ticket in 2014 and saving cap room for 2014 to lure one of the many max superstar free agents that will be available. Signing Tyreke to a big deal messes up both of those strategies.
I will be SHOCKED, and I will admit I'm wrong if it happens, but there is no way IMO that Reke can play PG for a playoff-bound Kings team.
Everything I have seen from him since he's come here has convinced me that he is NOT a PG.
(I'm referring to a PG as a player who initiates the offense and creates plays for the rest of the team, running the offensive system in a serious, competitive NBA game)
I don't believe Reke has proven that he can run a system whatsoever.
He basically runs the 1-4 flat most times he has the ball.
Sure, he can occasionally create for others and they've more-often-than-not bricked the shot when he does pass it to them, but the majority of the time he is shut down by any defense that focuses on him with the ball.
The VAST majority of Reke's scoring is off of broken plays and motion plays and fastbreaks, where the defense is not set.
I will readily admit that I have not been able to stomach watching the Kings as often the past 2 years as many of you, and maybe I've missed this proof that Reke can run an NBA offensive system against average competition, but apparently I'm remembering a different player than most of the rest of you - one that repeatedly has failed in most clutch possessions when it was down to him running the offense. The overtime in Denver was a classic example of Tyreke not being an NBA-ready PG against serious competition.
Remember the huge holes the Kings had to play out in the 1st quarter of when he would initiate the offense?
The 80-point scoring games for 10+ games?
I will happily admit if I'm wrong if Tyreke can pull it together and prove that he can do what he has not been able to do so far in his 4 years of NBA play.
One relief for me if the front office DOES go this direction, would be to prove once and for all (after FOUR FRIGGING YEARS) if he can (and therefore we at KF's won't have to debate whether he can or can't do it - we'll know for sure).
Of course, this is completely assuming that the new coach is heads-and-shoulders above Westphal and Smart- and that currently is a complete unknown, since they have AGAIN gone with unproven talent as the coach, who's never implemented a successful NBA system yet.
I just find it strange that KF's is apparently convincing themselves that an untested rookie SG, an untested coaching staff, and an unproven-at-PG Tyreke will come in and change the Kings into a playoff team.
Sure, it may happen, and I'll lead my boys in cheers if/when it does, but I just don't see enough change so far to wash the past 6 years of absolute Kings futility-in-the-face-of-legitimate-NBA-teams out of my eyes (and memory).
P.S. People willing to let go of one of the biggest bargains in the NBA (IT) when there isn't one other player on the roster who has proven they can run an NBA offense is insanely irresponsible.
Expecting a rookie to come in and perform to a proven-veteran's level is exactly how (and why) we got rid of Beno for Jimmer.
Everything I have seen from him since he's come here has convinced me that he is NOT a PG.
(I'm referring to a PG as a player who initiates the offense and creates plays for the rest of the team, running the offensive system in a serious, competitive NBA game)
I don't believe Reke has proven that he can run a system whatsoever.
He basically runs the 1-4 flat most times he has the ball.
Sure, he can occasionally create for others and they've more-often-than-not bricked the shot when he does pass it to them, but the majority of the time he is shut down by any defense that focuses on him with the ball.
The VAST majority of Reke's scoring is off of broken plays and motion plays and fastbreaks, where the defense is not set.
I will readily admit that I have not been able to stomach watching the Kings as often the past 2 years as many of you, and maybe I've missed this proof that Reke can run an NBA offensive system against average competition, but apparently I'm remembering a different player than most of the rest of you - one that repeatedly has failed in most clutch possessions when it was down to him running the offense. The overtime in Denver was a classic example of Tyreke not being an NBA-ready PG against serious competition.
Remember the huge holes the Kings had to play out in the 1st quarter of when he would initiate the offense?
The 80-point scoring games for 10+ games?
I will happily admit if I'm wrong if Tyreke can pull it together and prove that he can do what he has not been able to do so far in his 4 years of NBA play.
One relief for me if the front office DOES go this direction, would be to prove once and for all (after FOUR FRIGGING YEARS) if he can (and therefore we at KF's won't have to debate whether he can or can't do it - we'll know for sure).
Of course, this is completely assuming that the new coach is heads-and-shoulders above Westphal and Smart- and that currently is a complete unknown, since they have AGAIN gone with unproven talent as the coach, who's never implemented a successful NBA system yet.
I just find it strange that KF's is apparently convincing themselves that an untested rookie SG, an untested coaching staff, and an unproven-at-PG Tyreke will come in and change the Kings into a playoff team.
Sure, it may happen, and I'll lead my boys in cheers if/when it does, but I just don't see enough change so far to wash the past 6 years of absolute Kings futility-in-the-face-of-legitimate-NBA-teams out of my eyes (and memory).
P.S. People willing to let go of one of the biggest bargains in the NBA (IT) when there isn't one other player on the roster who has proven they can run an NBA offense is insanely irresponsible.
Expecting a rookie to come in and perform to a proven-veteran's level is exactly how (and why) we got rid of Beno for Jimmer.
All of the Tyreke defenders mention his physical gifts and ball handling. Yet they overlook the fact that Tyreke has not shown the basketball IQ needed to run an NBA team, let alone one that we want contending at some point. I'm sorry but mentally, and most importantly at a Basketball IQ level, Tyreke will never be a guy i see teams giving the ball to in the Western Conference Finals and running an NBA team. That is why Tyreke is such an enigma for any franchise. Skill wise you would say to get the best out of him, you need to give him the ball and let him be a high usage player. But honestly from what you guys have seen, do you want Tyreke Evans running our team? do you think he is capable of making the right decision at the right moment, getting guys into their spots? I just haven't seen it, i think he is much better if he is given the job of playing all out defense, and pushing the ball in the open floor. I do not trust Tyreke Evans to run a half court offense from the four years i have seen him play.
I think people who want to focus on whether Tyreke is a PG or not forget that with the proper SF (Iggy) and with Cuz, we don't need a "real" PG. This is all a definitional thing and what any team needs, what our team needs is assists. It doesn't have to come from one player. Is that concept something to argue also because if it is, I will have a strong suspicion that this argument is personal and has little to do with basketball. Basketball is the excuse for arguing.
Facilitation by committee, thy name is Kings. It's what happened a decade ago for reference.
Facilitation by committee, thy name is Kings. It's what happened a decade ago for reference.
I don't trust anybody on our team to run a half court offense based on what we've seen, because we haven't even had a half court offense so there's nothing to base my trust on. In any case, even Tony Parker took a good number of years to learn the position and a seasoned vet in Ginobili made some costly mistakes in the finals in that regard. Really the only way I can say whether I trust Evans with the role or not is to actually see him there for a year under a good coach who attempts to develop him and not just leave him on his own.
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And, since free agency has now begun and there's a new thread about which teams are talking to Reke, what the offers might be, etc. I'm going to close this one in favor of the new one.
And, since free agency has now begun and there's a new thread about which teams are talking to Reke, what the offers might be, etc. I'm going to close this one in favor of the new one.
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