2013 NBA Draft thread.

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PurpleHaze

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Big Cuz 15 said:
reke
mclemore
mt
mcallum
douglas
it
salmons
fredette

damn thats alot of f'ng guards
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It doesn't matter because at least two, possibly three, and maybe four of ones listed won't be on Kings roster starting 2013-14 season. The hope is a glut of more guards doesn't just take their roster place.
 
MassachusettsKingsFan

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rainmaker said:
Backup level guards aren't traded that much. They're usually pretty easy to acquire without needing trades. Moving two backup guards in a trade is even rarer. The easiest way to move backup guards is for picks on draft day. If not then, then it becomes extremely difficult and many times you'd have guard(s) coming back in return, like Brooks going and Douglas coming.

But trading backup guards for SF's and PF's is just rare, and we'd need to do it in 2-3 trades. I think some believe clearing our backcourt will be much easier than it is in reality. And as of now I see no evidence anyone wants any of our backups. Couldn't move them last year without taking a guard back, couldn't move them tonight as of yet, while trying like crazy to acquire picks.
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The scary part is, who is the one guy on this team that you can package other players with? Who is one guy 'on the block' who has value around the league? Tyreke Evans.

You can package a combination of Evans and MT, IT, Jimmer, etc. That's about the only way to clean house in one transaction. Little deals, now that the draft is over are going to be hard.
 
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spudfan said:
Who says jimmer, it, Reke are sticking around? Jimmer and IT also leave much to be desired. Perhaps the front office think this kid can jump them in the rotation or are planning on shipping them out as rumors suggest.
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Do you even know anything about McCallum or is this just the usual trust the front office thing?
 
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PurpleHaze said:
It doesn't matter because at least two, possibly three, and maybe four of ones listed won't be on Kings roster starting 2013-14 season. The hope is a glut of more guards doesn't just take their roster place.
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And my concern is that the easiest way to get rid of the guards is to just let our FA's walk as the guys actually under contract don't have much value.
 
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spudfan said:
Who says jimmer, it, Reke are sticking around? Jimmer and IT also leave much to be desired. Perhaps the front office think this kid can jump them in the rotation or are planning on shipping them out as rumors suggest.
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Jumping them in a rotation stacked with guards does little to balance our roster or solve needs.

And here we are again with the just move players argument. That's hope. Rumors suggest we tried to move some players and evidence suggests no one wanted them.
 
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I agree. 2nd round pick rarely get a chance to even get roster spot in regular season.
But on another note, we the only contracts that count under team payroll now are just Jimmer, MT, and McLemore(once signed).
IT is a team option, we did not pick up Toney D yet. And Reke is bound to check his market price for us to match.

This will probably mean that we don't want to over pay Reke. And let him walk if his price is too high.
 
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KingsCitizen said:
I agree. 2nd round pick rarely get a chance to even get roster spot in regular season.
But on another note, we the only contracts that count under team payroll now are just Jimmer, MT, and McLemore(once signed).
IT is a team option, we did not pick up Toney D yet. And Reke is bound to check his market price for us to match.

This will probably mean that we don't want to over pay Reke. And let him walk if his price is too high.
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So you let him and Douglas walk and your backcourt under contract is IT/McCallum and McClemore/Thornton? That's an awful backcourt without even getting to our hole at 3 or the interior d problem.
 
Mr. S£im Citrus

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Hallama said:
Free agency all the way here...no worries.
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No worries? Seriously? Are you aware that these are the Sacramento Kings? There should definitely be worry! Our best bet, at this point, is a multiple trade circumstance. If we're counting on free agency to fill needs, we're cooked.
 
Bosnian Diehard

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I think we have to let Douglas leave now and McCallum likely won't make a roster spot, so we are looking at the old guards + McLemore. I think we need to get rid of Jimmer or MT. I'd even take a future 2nd for Jimmer at this point.
 
PurpleHaze

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Mr. S£im Citrus said:
No worries? Seriously? Are you aware that these are the Sacramento Kings? There should definitely be worry! Our best bet, at this point, is a multiple trade circumstance. If we're counting on free agency to fill needs, we're cooked.
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Interesting on ESPN when they highlighted Dwight Howard's FA options and it may boil down to fact that proposed contract with Lakers is made less appealing because it would include 13% California state income tax annually over the life of the deal - as opposed to Texas having no state income tax with Rockets and Mavericks his two top choices at this point if rejects LA.
 
miltonap

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Lineup of the future:

PG: Tyreke/McCallum
SG: Macklemore/Fredette
SF: Free Agent or Trade/Free Agent or Trade
PF: Free Agent or Trade/JT or PPat
C: Cousins/Aldrich


Agreed?
 
Bosnian Diehard

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Three situations I see coming out of the draft...

Situation A) The team lets Reke and Douglas walk, and don't actually use McCallum. So we are left with IT and McLemore in the backcourt with Jimmer and MT as the backups. This would be terrible...

Situation B) Resign Evans, let IT walk as well as Douglas, and work with Reke and McLemore as your future backcourt and MT and Jimmer are your backups. This is more realistic and appealing.

Situation C) We pull off a lot of trades.
 
rainmaker

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MassachusettsKingsFan said:
That can't even be on the table.
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Well it hasn't been picked up yet and I'm pretty sure they have four days left to do it. Definitely no rush to do it, and if they were waiting for today to see how our backcourt looked, it just got more crowded. If they were iffy before today...

I really can't tell what this FO values. Thought we'd have a bit of clarification today, but I'm just confused now. Still haven't heard anything regarding a Reke/Ben backcourt. Imagine drafting Noel and not hearing anything about him being paired with Cuz. This is the backcourt version, yet silence.
 
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