2013 NBA Draft thread.

[G_M]

It's an asset. Why waste it on a position we have zero need for?

Doesn't it make more sense to draft a player that will be in the league in two years? I mean in terms of an asset.....

 

[Big Cuz 15]

really disappointed. we still have that gigantic hole at SF. we have so many guards that would give smart a stiffy. we were rumored to buy a second which we didn't do. wtf

 

[Entity]

Cole Aldrich > Whitney

 

[HereWeBoogie]

really disappointed. we still have that gigantic hole at SF. we have so many guards that would give smart a stiffy. we were rumored to buy a second which we didn't do. wtf

nailed it

 

[sdballer]

Doesn't it make more sense to draft a player that will be in the league in two years? I mean in terms of an asset.....

When its a guy playing a position you already have too much depth at? When are you going to showcase him? In the second round, either take a major project that slipped or you fill a specific need. 4th undersized pg isn't a need.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Cole Aldrich > Whitney

If we keep Cole ...

I'm a fan of his. I was when the Thunder drafted him, and I felt a little vindicated when he came here and played well.

But if the team doesn't sign him than it doesn't matter who's better.

 

[Entity]

If we keep Cole ...

I'm a fan of his. I was when the Thunder drafted him, and I felt a little vindicated when he came here and played well.

But if the team doesn't sign him than it doesn't matter who's better.

my point was if Cole isn't worth keeping then Whitney isn't worth drafting.

 

[Arco Arena]

really disappointed. we still have that gigantic hole at SF. we have so many guards that would give smart a stiffy. we were rumored to buy a second which we didn't do. wtf

A little premature to bring out the pitchforks.

Free agency hasn't even started and our GM has only been on the job for a couple weeks.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

my point was if Cole isn't worth keeping then Whitney isn't worth drafting.

Right, but Cole could be worth keeping without PDA keeping him. Withey could be worth drafting even though PDA didn't draft him. He's not going to be right all the time. And taking another scoring guard over a defending big man is just ... not great. It says a lot about what he values.

It's not the be all end all, but it's an alarming start in my opinion.

 

[Entity]

A little premature to bring out the pitchforks.

Free agency hasn't even started and our GM has only been on the job for a couple weeks.

Yeah we got 11 players on the roster with contracts. We have an amnsesty if so desired. A few pieces I am sure will be traded and some good SF free agents i.e. Matt Barnes, Dorell Wright, Iggy.

 

[spudfan]

A little premature to bring out the pitchforks.

Free agency hasn't even started and our GM has only been on the job for a couple weeks.

I agree with ya. Could be they have an eye on a defensive free agent and expect to sign him. Could be they really think this guy has a lot of potential. Could be a trade is lined up for a combination of our guards and they wanted a backup ball handler. Lots of ways this can make sense.

 

[spudfan]

Right, but Cole could be worth keeping without PDA keeping him. Withey could be worth drafting even though PDA didn't draft him. He's not going to be right all the time. And taking another scoring guard over a defending big man is just ... not great. It says a lot about what he values.

It's not the be all end all, but it's an alarming start in my opinion.

How does this second round pick say a lot about what he values when you have no where close to all the information? Sure you can speculate but to say he values a scoring guard over defensive big men due to one second round pick 2 weeks after being named Gm is a stretch.

 

[Entity]

Right, but Cole could be worth keeping without PDA keeping him. Withey could be worth drafting even though PDA didn't draft him. He's not going to be right all the time. And taking another scoring guard over a defending big man is just ... not great. It says a lot about what he values.

It's not the be all end all, but it's an alarming start in my opinion.

I see what your are saying. I will get back to you after free agency opens up and see what we go after. i wasn't even hinging on our 1st pick although i turned out to be very happy about that. now lets see what we do in july and august with trades and FA. If trend continues I may join your opinion. Just gonna wait to pass judgment for now. again our 1st pick was awesome.

 

[sdballer]

I agree with ya. Could be they have an eye on a defensive free agent and expect to sign him. Could be they really think this guy has a lot of potential. Could be a trade is lined up for a combination of our guards and they wanted a backup ball handler. Lots of ways this can make sense.

He's an average to below average passer, poor shooter and not a great defender. Even if we had a bunch of great moves to get rid of our excess guards, why waste the pick on a guy that doesn't fill a need?

 

[dmj]

I can't understand why anyone would think it is a good idea to draft for need in the 2nd round. You're doing well to draft a player in the 2nd that even makes the roster, so you don't really have the luxury of being picky about who you take. Besides it isn't like we need some second round pick to come in right away and fill a need. If we have a glut of players at a position then you can just stash him in the d-league.

MacCullum looks like a pretty solid prospect for a 2nd rounder. Great athlete, good A/T ratio, decent shooter.

 

[Hallama]

really disappointed. we still have that gigantic hole at SF. we have so many guards that would give smart a stiffy. we were rumored to buy a second which we didn't do. wtf

Free agency all the way here...no worries.

 

[sdballer]

I can't understand why anyone would think it is a good idea to draft for need in the 2nd round. You're doing well to draft a player in the 2nd that even makes the roster, so you don't really have the luxury of being picky about who you take. Besides it isn't like we need some second round pick to come in right away and fill a need. If we have a glut of players at a position then you can just stash him in the d-league.

I'm getting really perplexed by these questions. Why draft someone you need instead of a guy that doesn't fill any need at all? Really?

This is a high second pick not a last 10 that you just take anyone you may like.

 

[rainmaker]

Backup level guards aren't traded that much. They're usually pretty easy to acquire without needing trades. Moving two backup guards in a trade is even rarer. The easiest way to move backup guards is for picks on draft day. If not then, then it becomes extremely difficult and many times you'd have guard(s) coming back in return, like Brooks going and Douglas coming.

But trading backup guards for SF's and PF's is just rare, and we'd need to do it in 2-3 trades. I think some believe clearing our backcourt will be much easier than it is in reality. And as of now I see no evidence anyone wants any of our backups. Couldn't move them last year without taking a guard back, couldn't move them tonight as of yet, while trying like crazy to acquire picks.

 

[Heuge]

Amnesty Thorton. Trade Jimmer (who has some value.) Problem solved.

 

[sdballer]

Backup level guards aren't traded that much. They're usually pretty easy to acquire without needing trades. Moving two backup guards in a trade is even rarer. The easiest way to move backup guards is for picks on draft day. If not then, then it becomes extremely difficult and many times you'd have guard(s) coming back in return, like Brooks going and Douglas coming.

But trading backup guards for SF's and PF's is just rare, and we'd need to do it in 2-3 trades. I think some believe clearing our backcourt will be much easier than it is in reality.

Yeah its funny. Obviously a second round pick won't make or break our off-season but the random collection of guards when we need to clean out our backcourt and have massive needs at the 3 and bigs is bizarre.

 

[Hallama]

Amnesty Thorton. Trade Jimmer (who has some value.) Problem solved.

Thorton not amnest eligible...only Salmons, who they should if they go after a SF.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

reke
mclemore
mt
mcallum
douglas
it
salmons
fredette

damn thats alot of f'ng guards

 

[spudfan]

I'm getting really perplexed by these questions. Why draft someone you need instead of a guy that doesn't fill any need at all? Really?

This is a high second pick not a last 10 that you just take anyone you may like.

Because the chance of success from guys coming this low in the draft is so bad you pick whoever you think has the best chance of making it. For whatever reason they liked this kid.

 

[sdballer]

Amnesty Thorton. Trade Jimmer (who has some value.) Problem solved.

Thornton not eligible

 

[dmj]

You don't fill needs in the 2nd round, not even for backup spots. You roll the dice and hope that you land someone who can at least play several years in the league. You almost never get a player in the 2nd that is going to be able to fill a need.

 

[rainmaker]

Because the chance of success from guys coming this low in the draft is so bad you pick whoever you think has the best chance of making it. For whatever reason they liked this kid.

What kind of success will he have with Jimmer/IT/Reke all looking for mins at PG? Exactly where is the upside even if he can play at this level? And that's better than taking a chance on a guy where you have a need?

 

[dmj]

It isn't exactly uncommon for teams to send 2nd round picks down to the d-league to develop. And I'd be really surprised if we keep every on the guard currently on the roster.

 

[sdballer]

Because the chance of success from guys coming this low in the draft is so bad you pick whoever you think has the best chance of making it. For whatever reason they liked this kid.

In the last 4-5 drafts, about 60% of the guys drafted in the beginning of the second round have averaged double digit minutes. Another chunk of the guys are euro's stashed overseas. This is a place where you still find rotational guys.

 

[Dime Dropper]

It's not even about need. Mitchell, Franklin, Ledo, even Withey are more BPA than McCallum. Obviously the FO don't agree, but some of you are acting as if McCallum is the superior talent. It remains to be seen. And he's not going to get an opportunity here to showcase himself. Mitchell would have been a far better choice. I expect him to do well for Detroit, who never fail to capitalise on our mistakes. They must absolutely love being behind us in the draft!

 

[spudfan]

What kind of success will he have with Jimmer/IT/Reke all looking for mins at PG? Exactly where is the upside even if he can play at this level?

Who says jimmer, it, Reke are sticking around? Jimmer and IT also leave much to be desired. Perhaps the front office think this kid can jump them in the rotation or are planning on shipping them out as rumors suggest.