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Looks like conflicting reports
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/sto...tle-sonics-chris-hansen-steve-ballmer-maloofs
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/sto...tle-sonics-chris-hansen-steve-ballmer-maloofs
I suppose that I compartmentalize these things differently than other fans do: to me, Oklahoma City is still the Supersonics, no matter what Thunder fans or the talking heads say. Or even disenfranchised Sonics fans, for that matter. When this team gets to Seattle, it doesn't magically become the team that won a championship in 1979, or that Payton and Kemp and Allen played for, or that Rashard Lewis scored 50 against the Clippers in back-to-back games with.
That whole "the records and the history stay with the city" business is cute, and everything, but my living memory says otherwise.
That whole "the records and the history stay with the city" business is cute, and everything, but my living memory says otherwise.
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personally, i find myself in a bit of an awkward position. my wife and i just took a road trip to seattle this last fall. it was my fifth time visiting, and her second. we both love the pacific northwest, and we'll be considering relocating that way in a few years, should the winds of our respective careers allow for such a move. now, i grew up in the sacramento area. i don't have much attachment to it, to be perfectly honest, and i never thought i'd be back after finishing my graduate education, but my wife got a job working for the state, so here we are. regardless, i always figured i'd be a kings fan no matter where i found myself living. i've never really considered legitimately throwing my support behind any other team, except maybe the portland trailblazers, because, like i said, i've got love for the pacific NW. should the kings move to seattle, and be renamed the sonics, happenstance may actually see me following their relocation. it's difficult to know how i'd feel about that, should the above scenario play out as such. it'd feel wonderful to be able to root for what i consider to be my team in a new city, but at the same time, it'd also be hard to imagine it feeling the same. that said, who knows if my wife and i will ever make it to seattle. so i, like many, will have a decision to make: support a different team? the warriors? the clippers? the blazers? or follow the kings/sonics to seattle? or just swear off the nba entirely? i think we'll all have to be neck-deep in it to know how we'll respond, ultimately. initial reactions will vary, as emotions are running high...
no i understand i whouldnt have used lakers if i didnt think they were the closest team.... however in soccer with promotion and relegation and different leagues you can set up a new club and start again (happend before with a team being relocated)... what im saying is whould you support anouther team or whould you support the sonnics or whould you throw the NBA out the window
A while back I had some disagreements with some people on this site and decided to leave for a while. Id like to take this time to appologize to those (vf, and others) the details of those arguments dont matter today. All that matters today is that we Kings fans are heart broken. The bad news has brought me back to the site. Such a sad day, as it looks next season I will be an NBA fan with no team to cheer for. I am sorry for those residents of Sacramento, as I know this hurts you all much more than it hurts me (as I am all the way across the country in VA). I just want to say thank you to all you guys who have been loyal to this site, and this team over the years. May there be better days ahead of us all. #KingsAllDay
I moved to NorCal in 94 from NY, and Richmond quickly became my favorite player and the guy who got me into basketball. I grew up being the only Kings fan I knew in the bay area and hated the Warriors. Hated them. I could never root for them.
I'd still follow them if this goes through, but it'll never be the same. Never. Makes a potential move to Europe for me for awhile a little easier. Following from afar is following from afar.
But this f'ing sucks. Still holding out hope a local investor steps in and Stern gives us a chance. But damnit this sucks. Put up with the worst owners in pro sports for years while they show zero commitment to being even competitive, only to be rewarded by having our hearts ripped out, franchise relocated and our history erased. SMH.
I'd still follow them if this goes through, but it'll never be the same. Never. Makes a potential move to Europe for me for awhile a little easier. Following from afar is following from afar.
But this f'ing sucks. Still holding out hope a local investor steps in and Stern gives us a chance. But damnit this sucks. Put up with the worst owners in pro sports for years while they show zero commitment to being even competitive, only to be rewarded by having our hearts ripped out, franchise relocated and our history erased. SMH.
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i know quite a few people in sacramento who share this view. the kings have been the only game in town for a couple of decades, and, for many, the natural response has been to root for them because... well, they're here, so why not? however, much of that contingent has already become jaded enough to emotionally distance themselves from this team, and from the nba, in general. it's always been a component of the small town/big town tension in sacramento. there are plenty of people prepared to shout "good riddance!!" while the kings make their exit, and it might be enough for the nba to justify the approval of the team's relocation, as well as the denial of a future nba franchise. if sacramento ever decides to fully commit to modernizing, then perhaps the nba would change its mind, but, in my opinion, brick's been spot-on in his assessment of the local fanbase: refusing to support the team was always going to result in the advancement of an agenda in which sacramento is left without a professional sports franchise...
I'm sure that your now aware that the Warriors are the closest team to Sacramento. I was a Warrior fan prior to the Kings moving to Sacramento, and thats probably where my attention will go now if this comes to pass. I do think there are more hurdles that have to be crossed before this deal could be done. So far, I've heard nothing from Kevin Johnson, or the league. We all know that the Maloofs can agree to sell to anyone they want, but its immaterial if the league doesn't approve the sale. As far as I know, every team thats been sold has had to go through a process of approval, and in some cases the sale has been turned down by the league.
I assumed, and I'm sure many of you have done so as well, that the league wanted to keep the team in Sacramento. It appeared that there was bad blood between the Maloofs and Stern. The only reference to the league, is in the one report that said with league approval. I question that, but its possible. Seattle may appear to be a more stable situation to the league than Sacramento, unless someone steps up (Burkle, Johnson) and intervene's. I would hope that the city, and prespective ownership, would put up some sort of fight. For PR benefits if nothing else. I realize that this just happened, so I'm willing to wait till the smoke clears for some sort of reaction.
I'm not throwing in the towel just yet. This all seems too neat and clean on the surface. This could be a ploy by the Maloofs to show any potential buyers, that the $500 million they're asking is very viable, and thats what its going to cost if you want to buy.
I assumed, and I'm sure many of you have done so as well, that the league wanted to keep the team in Sacramento. It appeared that there was bad blood between the Maloofs and Stern. The only reference to the league, is in the one report that said with league approval. I question that, but its possible. Seattle may appear to be a more stable situation to the league than Sacramento, unless someone steps up (Burkle, Johnson) and intervene's. I would hope that the city, and prespective ownership, would put up some sort of fight. For PR benefits if nothing else. I realize that this just happened, so I'm willing to wait till the smoke clears for some sort of reaction.
I'm not throwing in the towel just yet. This all seems too neat and clean on the surface. This could be a ploy by the Maloofs to show any potential buyers, that the $500 million they're asking is very viable, and thats what its going to cost if you want to buy.
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Bottom line Sacramento: it's not over... #keepthefaith #playingtowin
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Bottom line Sacramento: it's not over... #keepthefaith #playingtowin
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Well, of course I can't understand. I wasn't trying to pass judgement, or hold myself up as better, so I apologize if that's how I come across.
VF, you, more than anybody else here, know enough about my personal background to know that having a feeling of provincial territory about things such as this are completely beyond my understanding, and why. But, as I said, I feel bad for the people who are getting screwed by this; I just don't grok the notion of "Well, I guess that's it! Fifty years of following the NBA, but I'm done, now!"
VF, you, more than anybody else here, know enough about my personal background to know that having a feeling of provincial territory about things such as this are completely beyond my understanding, and why. But, as I said, I feel bad for the people who are getting screwed by this; I just don't grok the notion of "Well, I guess that's it! Fifty years of following the NBA, but I'm done, now!"
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