Reggie Theus

TyFreak Evans

TyFreak Evans

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Now, 4 years later, which one of you Reggie Theus haters would love to have him back as our head coach? I hated the move to fire him back then, and all I can do today is sit back and laugh. He was, and still is, the best coach we have had since Adelman. I liked his coaching style, and I liked his attitude and poise. He knew what he wanted out of his players.

If only he was given a little more time...

With that being said, I was thoroughly disappointed in the coaching job that Paul Westphal did, but I honestly believe that his failure had more to do with his old school coaching style than it did the roster and talent. He was a great coach back in the day, but things had changed since then, and when he took over, his philosophy was way too old school for the current NBA...
 
PurpleHaze

PurpleHaze

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Theus was fired because he would not take direct order he disagreed with from Maloofs - maybe only person ever in organization who wouldn't bow down to them constantly (Bozo Napear, haha). Maloofs wanted his assistant coach (aka: defense coach) Chuck Person fired for reasons that were never fully explained. In no time Phil Jackson hired Person as an assistant and "The Rifleman" is still on Lakers bench to this day. Theus went on to be an assistant for then coach Kurt Rambis at Minnesota and Reggie is now head coach of LA D-Fenders - D league team for the Lakers. Yep, I think Reggie got a raw deal and considering what complete debacle this franchise has become since, it's really very sad. He was just developing as a decent NBA coach and might have become a very good one in Sac, but we'll never know.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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TyFreak Evans said:
Now, 4 years later, which one of you Reggie Theus haters would love to have him back as our head coach? I hated the move to fire him back then, and all I can do today is sit back and laugh. He was, and still is, the best coach we have had since Adelman. I liked his coaching style, and I liked his attitude and poise. He knew what he wanted out of his players.

If only he was given a little more time...

With that being said, I was thoroughly disappointed in the coaching job that Paul Westphal did, but I honestly believe that his failure had more to do with his old school coaching style than it did the roster and talent. He was a great coach back in the day, but things had changed since then, and when he took over, his philosophy was way too old school for the current NBA...
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Theus was an arrogant *** and the team tired of him almost as quickly as I did. You will notice the wonderful success he has had in the NBA since he left us. He's now coaching in the D-League. Along with Muss. Natt is coaching in India. Westphal is on a beach somewhere. This is the caliber of coach we keep on hiring here.

When the Maloofs started this disastrous spiral by firing Adelman for knowing more than they did and trying to replace him with their WNBA coach, maybe they weren't aiming as low as we all thought.
 
PurpleHaze

PurpleHaze

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Bricklayer said:
Theus was an arrogant ***. You will notice the wonderful success he has had in the NBA since he left us. He's now coaching in the D-League. Along with Muss. Natt is coaching in India. Westphal is on a beach somewhere. This is the caliber of coach we keep on hiring here.

When the Maloofs started this disastrous spiral by firing Adelman for knowing more than they did and trying to replace him with their WNBA coach, maybe they weren't aiming as low as we all thought.
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But Theus wasn't arrogant in public. Behind the scenes maybe. His PR skills in front of camera are rather legendary going back to his days under Tark at UNLV all the way through to work with TNT etc. Theus actually took Musselman's head coach job with LA D-Fenders just this season. Muss took an assistant coach job at Arizona State. Reggie still wants back in NBA at some high level but might take a head coach job back in NCAA. He had interviews at UNLV and Illinois but didn't get either of those. Maybe if D'Antoni totally crashes and burns??
 
upinsmoke

upinsmoke

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Theus never had a chance a raw deal if there ever was one. I give credit to him for not backing down to the Magoofs who are the real "arrogant ########" He may be in the D-league right now but he will be back one day and I wish him the best unless he is coaching against us.
 
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jpsls

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He did take that talentless 07-08 team to a 38 win season. Kevin Martin was out best player.

I'd rather have Theus over any coach after him. This team needs a coach who can instill discipline not a brown noser.
 
bajaden

bajaden

Hall of Famer
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TyFreak Evans said:
Now, 4 years later, which one of you Reggie Theus haters would love to have him back as our head coach? I hated the move to fire him back then, and all I can do today is sit back and laugh. He was, and still is, the best coach we have had since Adelman. I liked his coaching style, and I liked his attitude and poise. He knew what he wanted out of his players.

If only he was given a little more time...

With that being said, I was thoroughly disappointed in the coaching job that Paul Westphal did, but I honestly believe that his failure had more to do with his old school coaching style than it did the roster and talent. He was a great coach back in the day, but things had changed since then, and when he took over, his philosophy was way too old school for the current NBA...
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Go do some research on Westphal. He was never a great coach, and he destroyed every team he coached, including Pepperdine. Everywhere he went he inherited a good team, except the Kings, and in a two to three year period, he quickly wore out his welcome. His main accheivement on every team was turning the best player on that team against him. Basicly by backstabbing that player in public.

As for Theus, we haven't had a legitimate head coach since Adelman, and that includes Theus, although he may have been the best of the bunch.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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PurpleHaze said:
Reggie still wants back in NBA at some high level but might take a head coach job back in NCAA. He had interviews at UNLV and Illinois but didn't get either of those. Maybe if D'Antoni totally crashes and burns??
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Uh, no. The Lakers are an actual professional organization
 
bajaden

bajaden

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PurpleHaze said:
Theus was fired because he would not take direct order he disagreed with from Maloofs - maybe only person ever in organization who wouldn't bow down to them constantly (Bozo Napear, haha). Maloofs wanted his assistant coach (aka: defense coach) Chuck Person fired for reasons that were never fully explained. In no time Phil Jackson hired Person as an assistant and "The Rifleman" is still on Lakers bench to this day. Theus went on to be an assistant for then coach Kurt Rambis at Minnesota and Reggie is now head coach of LA D-Fenders - D league team for the Lakers. Yep, I think Reggie got a raw deal and considering what complete debacle this franchise has become since, it's really very sad. He was just developing as a decent NBA coach and might have become a very good one in Sac, but we'll never know.
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I believe the story was that Theus was delegating a large part of his duties to Person, and the Maloofs felt they were paying him to do the job, not Person. So they wanted him to let Person go. No one but Theus and the Maloof's knows the entire story, but thats what I heard.
 
Padrino

Padrino

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first a westphal thread, now a theus thread? what's going on today? you cats are on some weird nostalgia trips, attempting to delineate between one steaming pile of **** and another. what's the point? might as well just long for rick adelman, who was the last coach of credibility this franchise employed, and who is currently guiding a young and ailing minnesota timberwolves squad into a potential playoff berth...
 
K

KingsCitizen

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This team should get Larry Brown.
Larry Brown brings team to playoffs and even give them rings.
He works well the kind of talents we have now which are:
(1) Midgets (IT, Brooks)- check Iverson Philly
(2) Big PG (Evans)- check Billups in Detroit
(3) Ref's Bestfriends (DMC) - check Sheed in Detroit
(4) Small but tough Center (Chuck) - see Big Ben in Detroit
(5) Finger Swagging (just need to put it here) - Dikembe in Philly
(6) Garbageman bigs (JT) - check Hill in Philly

But Larry Brown don't play lottery guys (TRob) - see Darko. LOL
 
bajaden

bajaden

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upinsmoke said:
Theus never had a chance a raw deal if there ever was one. I give credit to him for not backing down to the Magoofs who are the real "arrogant ########" He may be in the D-league right now but he will be back one day and I wish him the best unless he is coaching against us.
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You know, having owned my own business, and having dealt with some very interesting employee's, I'm going to come down on the Maloofs side on this one. They own the Kings, and they pay the bills, and if they want one of their employee's fired, then they have that right. Now Theus has the right to do what he did as well. But if I told an employee that worked for me to do something that was business related and he refused, then he'd be working for someone else.
 
bajaden

bajaden

Hall of Famer
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KingsCitizen said:
This team should get Larry Brown.
Larry Brown brings team to playoffs and even give them rings.
He works well the kind of talents we have now which are:
(1) Midgets (IT, Brooks)- check Iverson Philly
(2) Big PG (Evans)- check Billups in Detroit
(3) Ref's Bestfriends (DMC) - check Sheed in Detroit
(4) Small but tough Center (Chuck) - see Big Ben in Detroit
(5) Finger Swagging (just need to put it here) - Dikembe in Philly
(6) Garbageman bigs (JT) - check Hill in Philly

But Larry Brown don't play lottery guys (TRob) - see Darko. LOL
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I never thought I'd want Larry Brown for our coach, but god forgive me, I'd take him in a heartbeat right now. However, Brown is a power grabber and Petrie would never hire him for fear of Brown going after his job. But Brown is a teacher and a good one, and he's had short term success just about everywhere he's been.. One thing I can say about Brown is that he's a disciplinarion, and this team certainly needs some of that.
 
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LWP777

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Bricklayer said:
Theus was an arrogant *** and the team tired of him almost as quickly as I did. You will notice the wonderful success he has had in the NBA since he left us. He's now coaching in the D-League. Along with Muss. Natt is coaching in India. Westphal is on a beach somewhere. This is the caliber of coach we keep on hiring here.

When the Maloofs started this disastrous spiral by firing Adelman for knowing more than they did and trying to replace him with their WNBA coach, maybe they weren't aiming as low as we all thought.
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I do agree he was extremely arrogant but he was also the best coach we had since Rick. I don't think he really deserved to be fired IMO. He did pretty well for what he had to work with.
 
jaysoonii

jaysoonii

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No no no. Every coach we had since RA was and is ****. They might look really good right now compared to what we have, but still bad. Bring Larry Brown , trade the whole team except cousins/reke. please..
 
funkykingston

funkykingston

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Joe Maloof circa November of 2008:

I think what we need from Reggie: he's gotta develop a system ... a offensive-defensive system, like Adelman had. You know, if we had an injury, Adelman would plug somebody in that position and go on. The machine would continue to work. So I think that's what we're looking from Reggie.

He's gotta get better defensively. He and that Chuck need to protect that three-point line. They've got to get better defensively. We're in last place, close to last in defense, and close to last in turnovers again. He's got get a system. And if he's gets that system and we have confidence in him then he's got a bright future with us. If he doesn't get that system, then you know ... then we better try to get one quickly.
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If you recall, Theus' response was that he had a system based in a high post motion offense. But Joe Maloof didn't really seem to care about X's and O's. What he was saying was that Adelman found a way to win, just as he did in Houston in 2009 when TMac went out and he lost Yao in the playoffs and still had the Rockets making an amazing run. What the Maloofs want (or at least what they wanted in the past) is a a coach who can play to the strengths of whatever roster they've been given and find a way to consistently overachieve. Which is a great way of looking at things until you realize that the bigger caveat for them is that such a coach must also come with a bargain basement price. So they keep gambling on little known or appreciate prospects who are willing to take the job for relatively low wages. Muss with his hyper detailed approach, Theus with his charisma and NBA experience & Sacramento connection, Westphal as the experienced hand who was available cheap and Smart as the player's coach. They've all been bad experiments but I'd agree that Theus was the best of them.

We can discuss how much better this team would be under Adelman or Sloan or Jeff Van Gundy but at the end of the day it's idle talk since they'd be excluded from consideration from the very beginning simply based on price tag.

I honestly think the Maloofs were initially surprised at the performance of the franchise after they dismissed Adelman but at this point I think they are just penny pinching and knowing it will result in a terrible team but hoping that a dream deal to move to another city will allow them the resources to field a competitive squad again.
 
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jayfly

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Bricklayer said:
Theus was an arrogant *** and the team tired of him almost as quickly as I did. You will notice the wonderful success he has had in the NBA since he left us. He's now coaching in the D-League. Along with Muss. Natt is coaching in India. Westphal is on a beach somewhere. This is the caliber of coach we keep on hiring here.

When the Maloofs started this disastrous spiral by firing Adelman for knowing more than they did and trying to replace him with their WNBA coach, maybe they weren't aiming as low as we all thought.
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Speaking of arrogant ***es, I got tired of you quicker then the team did of Theus.
 
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ESP47

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jpsls said:
He did take that talentless 07-08 team to a 38 win season. Kevin Martin was out best player.

I'd rather have Theus over any coach after him. This team needs a coach who can instill discipline not a brown noser.
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Theus coached a team with

Prime Martin
Prime Artest
Prime Miller (albeit his last good year)
Salmons when he finally started coming into his own.
Solid Beno
Plus a little bit of Bibby.

Still way more talented than anything we've seen since then. The bench was god awful though, I'll give you that.
 
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