Cousin's low blow to Mayo: Another fine/suspension coming?

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http://blogs.sacbee.com/sports/king...draws-attention-for-the-wrong-reasons-ag.html

Mayo says Cousins has "mental issues" after Cousins punched him below the belt... More from the article:

"In one of the more famous groin incidents, Reggie Evans was fined $10,000 and assessed a flagrant foul two for violating one of the most sacred of man laws during the 2006 NBA Playoffs... So I assume Cousins, at the very least, will be fined by the league for this if it agrees with Mayo and the Mavs that there was nothing accidental about Cousins shot to Mayo's groin."

Seeing how the league isn't giving Cousins any breaks, I wouldn't be surprised if they review that and take action...
 
Bricklayer

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Such a minor little tap, in the midst of a rebounding scrum, should just be a 25k fine or something. But who knows. And how silly is it that a modest income person's entire annual salary would be the fine for such a little thing. Its hard to play a serious pickup game without a dozen incidents at least as bad. If its going to cost me 25k at the very least I want to break your nose with an elbow. :p
 
Kingster

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At least he didn't do it to one of the refs. He's done so well with the refs these past four games. Even had a little confab with them at the beginning of the Dallas game. Seems like the devil had to come out somehow, though, and Mayo was the victim. At first I thought this little thing wouldn't be a big deal, but with Cousin's history it could be a several game suspension. Hard to know.
 
kupman

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Cousins does have mental issues.


However, this does not warrant a fine. Larry Legend and Reggie Miller did something like this on about 50% of their possessions.
 
DesertFox

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What a stupid thing to do. It's not a premeditated punch to the groin, but at the same time not like he was battling for position and his hand slid a little low. He made a swing for it.
 
Bricklayer

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Current head coach of the Houston Rockets vs. former head coach of the Minnesota Timberwolves. Hurray for hypocrisy and short memories. :)

 
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bajaden

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I don't know what to say. Do some of you watch NBA basketball very much? Have you seen NBA centers and PF's fighting for positon? Are you telling me, that little hand tap is call for a suspension? If his name wasn't Cousins, none of this conversation would be happening. I've watched that replay about 15 times, and anyone that watches it and then says Cousins was trying to hit O'Mayo in the groin, is just seeing what they want to see. O'Mayo grabbed Cousins arm to keep him from getting position for a rebound. Cousins removed this hand and then batted it away with his right arm, and in the process, accidently hit him in the groin. I mean for gods sake, he wasn't even looking at O'Mayo.

Did anyone see O'Mayo crumble to the floor in pain? How bad could it have been. Looking at how surprised Cousins was when confronted by Mayo after the play, I don't even think he knew he hit him there. This kind of play happens over and over in just about every basketball game. Far worse things than that have happened with no fine or suspension. I'm sorry, if Cousins had thrown an elbow, or even turned around and shoved O'Mayo, I'd be on board. But slapping away another players hand happens all the time. And usually if its flagrant enough, the ref will call a foul. But they don't fine you or suspend you for it.
 
blackice

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I can see a fine coming his way. For those of you saying he's just boxing out, stop it please. He was jawing with Mayo and other Mavs players through out the game especially when someone from Dallas was shooting free throws I saw him talking to numerous players. This was intentional in my opinion and he was sneaky about it, well at least he thought he was. I don't mind this though, we need a enforcer and we need to see someone who cares about winning as much as DeMarcus. I don't see that from a lot of the Kings players and quite frankly it's disheartning. We need more passionate players on this team, not just ones that go through the motions.
 
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DMC is not mentally unstable. He just does not handle his emotions well and he has a short temper. Hopefully he figures out how to deal with his emotions more effectively, but it is going to take time no matter what.
 
VF21

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bajaden said:
I don't know what to say. Do some of you watch NBA basketball very much? Have you seen NBA centers and PF's fighting for positon? Are you telling me, that little hand tap is call for a suspension? If his name wasn't Cousins, none of this conversation would be happening. I've watched that replay about 15 times, and anyone that watches it and then says Cousins was trying to hit O'Mayo in the groin, is just seeing what they want to see. O'Mayo grabbed Cousins arm to keep him from getting position for a rebound. Cousins removed this hand and then batted it away with his right arm, and in the process, accidently hit him in the groin. I mean for gods sake, he wasn't even looking at O'Mayo.

Did anyone see O'Mayo crumble to the floor in pain? How bad could it have been. Looking at how surprised Cousins was when confronted by Mayo after the play, I don't even think he knew he hit him there. This kind of play happens over and over in just about every basketball game. Far worse things than that have happened with no fine or suspension. I'm sorry, if Cousins had thrown an elbow, or even turned around and shoved O'Mayo, I'd be on board. But slapping away another players hand happens all the time. And usually if its flagrant enough, the ref will call a foul. But they don't fine you or suspend you for it.
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Very well said.
 
HereWeBoogie

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bajaden said:
O'Mayo grabbed Cousins arm to keep him from getting position for a rebound. Cousins removed this hand and then batted it away with his right arm, and in the process, accidently hit him in the groin. I mean for gods sake, he wasn't even looking at O'Mayo.
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i agree. Mayo kept coming over and grabbing DeMarcus' arm.
 
Glenn

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No one, absolutely no one would have noted the love tap if Mayo hadn't said something. I don't think it's a big deal and maybe we should all scan past games and see if we can catch other players doing the same to us. BUT .. Cuz has a reputation and will probably be fined. His body of work is piling up and the NBA rightfully punishes guys like him worse than the Duncans of the world. I'm willing to live with it, though, as who knows what kind of player he will be at age 30. Big guys can be at their max around that age and it's 8 YEARS from now. 8 years!!
 
VF21

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Npliam said:
My guess is that he will be fined in the neighborhood of $15,000. It looks intentional to me.
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If that happens, I'm going to send an email to the league demanding they look at every single game played thus far this year by every team and assess similar fines for every other occurrence of similar events. Watching any player this way is tantamount to destroying his career one game at a time.
 
bajaden

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Npliam said:
My guess is that he will be fined in the neighborhood of $15,000. It looks intentional to me.
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As I said, your seeing what you want to see. As for a fine, I'll be surprised if there is one. Most fines follow a technical or and ejection from the game. There wasn't even a foul called on the play. But then again, its Cousins isn't it. He's an easy target, so who knows what the league will do. But if they want to fine him, then maybe they should take a look at every NBA game and what happens in the post when players are battliing for position. You do know its illegal to grab another players arm, right? At least Cousins hasn't resorted to some of Dennis Rodmans tricks. Like when he pulled down another players pants under the basket to keep him from going for a rebound. Now I think that would be deemed intentional!
 
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bajaden said:
As I said, your seeing what you want to see. As for a fine, I'll be surprised if there is one. Most fines follow a technical or and ejection from the game. There wasn't even a foul called on the play. But then again, its Cousins isn't it. He's an easy target, so who knows what the league will do. But if they want to fine him, then maybe they should take a look at every NBA game and what happens in the post when players are battliing for position. You do know its illegal to grab another players arm, right? At least Cousins hasn't resorted to some of Dennis Rodmans tricks. Like when he pulled down another players pants under the basket to keep him from going for a rebound. Now I think that would be deemed intentional!
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Look, I know you all think that I have some vendetta against Cousins. Simply stated, I do not. I am not emotionally invested in him like the rest of you are and that gives me a different perspective. He has all the potential in the world but hasn't figured out how to be a part of winning basketball yet. He is young and competitive but just hasn't figured out how to play yet.

The very first time I watched the video I thought he hit Mayo in the balls on purpose. I don't think that this happens all the time like you guys make it seem. Full grown men don't take kindly to being hit down there. There would be fist fights in almost every game if this was a common occurrence.

It is a rough game and there is lots of physical contact but shots to the marbles are and should be treated differently.
 
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If Suh didn't get in any trouble for his shot on Schaub, then this should be washed right away.
 
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Here we go again....

Seems like every 2 weeks we have a big debate on something DMC has done. Most here take his side and say that the incident is being overblown. I have made my feelings about DMC very clear on this forum. At what point exactly do we start to place the blame on him? Why is it always HIM that's involved in these conflicts?
 
bajaden

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Npliam said:
Look, I know you all think that I have some vendetta against Cousins. Simply stated, I do not. I am not emotionally invested in him like the rest of you are and that gives me a different perspective. He has all the potential in the world but hasn't figured out how to be a part of winning basketball yet. He is young and competitive but just hasn't figured out how to play yet.

The very first time I watched the video I thought he hit Mayo in the balls on purpose. I don't think that this happens all the time like you guys make it seem. Full grown men don't take kindly to being hit down there. There would be fist fights in almost every game if this was a common occurrence.

It is a rough game and there is lots of physical contact but shots to the marbles are and should be treated differently.
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I have no idea what your feelings are about Cousins one way or the other. And, I'm not emotionally invested in Cousins than I'am any other player. If I think he does something wrong, I'll say so. But after watching the video god knows how may times today, and rewatching it in slow mo last night after it happened, there is no way in hell he struck O'Mayo where he did on purpose. He did knock his hand away, and rightly so, since O'Mayo was grabbing his arm. But he wasn't even looking at O'Mayo when he hit him in the groin, and I seriously doubt he knew where he struck him. His focus was on the shot that JT was shooting and he immediately started moving toward the basket as soon as he knocked O'Mayo's hand away.

Are you seriously going to tell me that you've never seen a post player knock another players hand away. My god, it happens constantly in every game. In this case, it just happened to hit the wrong spot. I never implied that players hit each other in the groin all the time, but they knock each others hands away all the time. In this case, Cuz happened to hit the wrong spot. As I said, it couldn't have been to bad since if you watch closely, there's hardly a reaction from O'Mayo when it happens.

Now if Cousins had turned around and punched him or knee'd him in the groin, I'd be with you. Hell, he didn't even use much force when he slapped away O'Mayo's hand. As far as him not figuring out everything yet, I agree with you. But last night, he was the best player we had on the court besides Cisco. The onus isn't all on him. Its a team game, and to single him out as the blame isn't fair. Yes, he does make bonehead plays at times. But so does Tyreke, and Thornton and IT etc. Thats what young players do!
 
bajaden

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LWP777 said:
Here we go again....

Seems like every 2 weeks we have a big debate on something DMC has done. Most here take his side and say that the incident is being overblown. I have made my feelings about DMC very clear on this forum. At what point exactly do we start to place the blame on him? Why is it always HIM that's involved in these conflicts?
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OK, I blame him for knocking away O'Mayo's hand! Satisfied? Now what? I also blame O'Mayo for grabbing Cousins arm! OK? Is that fair. You know what, in a game about a week ago, someone tripped over Cousins foot. I think he did it on purpose and we should probably ban him from the league. I think he scowled at another player one night as well. Thats probably another suspension and 15 thousand dollars. Maybe we should flog him publicly in the town square. Lets take out a one page add in the Bee with a giant picture of Cousins with BAD PERSON written under it. Anything else? I mean what would please you at Cousins expense.
 
HereWeBoogie

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Well after Napear went on his show and ranted about Cousins crappy play he has played very good since, maybe now with Napear ripping his maturity he will suddenly fix that too ;)
 
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