Trade Idea: Tyreke to Portland for the 6th pick

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kingofthejungle

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I'd try to swing a Tyreke to Portland for #6 , since they are rebuilding with Matthews, Batum, Hickson, and Aldridge. That is, if they see Tyreke as a PG, Portland probably wouldn't mind rebuiding with:

Evans
Matthews
Batum
Hickson
Aldridge
+ their 10th pick, which would probably be Tyler Zeller

If the Kings could land 6, they have consecutive picks and could address SF and PF, while balancing out their backcourt. Candidates would include Kidd-Gilchrist, Barnes, or either Jones at SF and Robinson, Drummond, or Henson at PF. Then they re-sign Thompson and Williams and find ways to unload Outlaw and Salmons, probably with help from Garcia's expiring.

Here's an example:
Kings' draft Andre Drummond at 5.
Kings' draft Terrance Jones at 6.
Kings add best available backup G with 36th pick to balance the roster, a guy like Jared Cunningham.

Thomas/Fredette
Thornton/Williams/Cunningham
T. Jones/Honeycutt
Thompson/Drummond/Hayes
Cousins/Whiteside

Kings get away with a weaker defensive backcourt due to defensive dominance and rim protection provided by Jones and Drummond. The bench is a bit weak, but the Kings swing for the fences to try and acquire top tier talent.

Thoughts? Realistic or not? Who would be available at 5 or 6 that you would prefer at SF and PF?
 
Tetsujin

Tetsujin

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kingofthejungle said:
I'd try to swing a Tyreke to Portland for #6 , since they are rebuilding with Matthews, Batum, Hickson, and Aldridge. That is, if they see Tyreke as a PG, Portland probably wouldn't mind rebuiding with:

Evans
Matthews
Batum
Hickson
Aldridge
+ their 10th pick, which would probably be Tyler Zeller

If the Kings could land 6, they have consecutive picks and could address SF and PF, while balancing out their backcourt. Candidates would include Kidd-Gilchrist, Barnes, or either Jones at SF and Robinson, Drummond, or Henson at PF. Then they re-sign Thompson and Williams and find ways to unload Outlaw and Salmons, probably with help from Garcia's expiring.

Here's an example:
Kings' draft Andre Drummond at 5.
Kings' draft Terrance Jones at 6.
Kings add best available backup G with 36th pick to balance the roster, a guy like Jared Cunningham.

Thomas/Fredette
Thornton/Williams/Cunningham
T. Jones/Honeycutt
Thompson/Drummond/Hayes
Cousins/Whiteside

Kings get away with a weaker defensive backcourt due to defensive dominance and rim protection provided by Jones and Drummond. The bench is a bit weak, but the Kings swing for the fences to try and acquire top tier talent.

Thoughts? Realistic or not? Who would be available at 5 or 6 that you would prefer at SF and PF?
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Capt. Factorial

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You just traded Tyreke Evans for Terrence Jones. I'm not on the "trade Tyreke" bandwagon by any means, but something like isn't going to get me on it.
 
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kingofthejungle

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That makes more sense

I didn't really see the trade from that standpoint and focused on balancing the roster and addressing areas of need. Also, Jones was just an example of what may be available at 6. And really, since the Kings have 5 already, they are basically taking the 2 best players available at 5. Who might those players be? Jones probably will, which is why I used him. But if Kidd-Gilchirsit, Thomas Robinson, or even Harrison Barnes slips to 5, do you reconsider?
 
Mass

Mass

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We don't need to get younger. We need to start winning. We can't be in rebuilding mode forever. We already have the 2 main pieces, now we need to put the right players around them. Tyreke is worth much more than the 6th pick, especially if you want to grab T.Jones, as you suggested.
No way I do this trade, it's just bad.
 
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kingofthejungle

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Well consider the financial state of the Maloofs and the fact that they have not signed an extension. Perhaps it's best to move Tyreke for something and balance the roster than lose him for nothing later on ...
 
Section 101

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kingofthejungle said:
I'd try to swing a Tyreke to Portland for #6 , since they are rebuilding with Matthews, Batum, Hickson, and Aldridge. That is, if they see Tyreke as a PG, Portland probably wouldn't mind rebuiding with:

Evans
Matthews
Batum
Hickson
Aldridge
+ their 10th pick, which would probably be Tyler Zeller

If the Kings could land 6, they have consecutive picks and could address SF and PF, while balancing out their backcourt. Candidates would include Kidd-Gilchrist, Barnes, or either Jones at SF and Robinson, Drummond, or Henson at PF. Then they re-sign Thompson and Williams and find ways to unload Outlaw and Salmons, probably with help from Garcia's expiring.

Here's an example:
Kings' draft Andre Drummond at 5.
Kings' draft Terrance Jones at 6.
Kings add best available backup G with 36th pick to balance the roster, a guy like Jared Cunningham.

Thomas/Fredette
Thornton/Williams/Cunningham
T. Jones/Honeycutt
Thompson/Drummond/Hayes
Cousins/Whiteside

Kings get away with a weaker defensive backcourt due to defensive dominance and rim protection provided by Jones and Drummond. The bench is a bit weak, but the Kings swing for the fences to try and acquire top tier talent.

Thoughts? Realistic or not? Who would be available at 5 or 6 that you would prefer at SF and PF?
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Sleeper pick for the Kings is Lillard. If they do have a trade in store for Evans you can bet it's to draft Lillard.
 
rainmaker

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Tetsujin said:
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Did we just attempt to trade the 09 #4 pick, who won ROY and is our 2nd best player, for the 12 #6 pick, who hasn't even stepped on an NBA court, and is considered on of the more risky draftees in this class?

BTW, Petrie was working out with Reke one on one this morning. Doubt that's a sign of him wanting to flip him for the #6.
 
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kingofthejungle

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I'm down with Lillard if he's the BPA, but then you are talking about a backcourt with Thomas, Lillard, Fredette, and Thornton. Talented but pretty short. Other moves would probably be necessary.
 
Mass

Mass

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kingofthejungle said:
Well consider the financial state of the Maloofs and the fact that they have not signed an extension. Perhaps it's best to move Tyreke for something and balance the roster than lose him for nothing later on ...
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Tyreke still has one year in his contract, then he will be a restricted free agent. Only the true superstars get an extension before the last year of contract. Tyreke is not right now. He has to show improvements, a better jump shot and a better game overall. It would be very weird if they offered him a new contract already. This is a pretty common situation, so it doesn't mean they don't want to resign him.
BTW, right now his agent knows that his value is low. I'm sure he wants to wait next summer, to see if Tyreke can develop and earn a better check.

In any case, I don't trade Tyreke for a 6th pick. No way. We can still balance our roster. Draft a SF with the 5th pick (I'm sure one between MKG and Barnes will be available) and resign JT.

Reke - Thornton - MKG or Barnes - JT - DMC: looks pretty balanced to me.

Last thing: no way I'd draft Lillard. We already have too many guards. We need to go with a big or a SF.
 
Spike

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This team needs balance, sure, but you weaken the overall talent on the floor. That said, this draft has no one at Tyreke's talent level especially at #6.

You know, I'm surprised at how uninspiring this year's crop is. Outside of the consensus #1, everyone has noticeable question marks.
 
pdxKingsFan

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Not that I like this trade, but I think Portland likes Jones at 6. Local kid. Makes sense for rebuilding franchise.
 
vikinginferno

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Dime Dropper said:
I think Lillard is going to be a very good player. Might actually be the surprise star of the draft.
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Agreed. He doesn't get as much credit because he was in the Big Sky Conference and is almost 22, but he is extremely talented. He has nearly identical size and athletic attributes to Rose. Like Rose, he is 6'3" with a 6'8" wingspan. They measured the same no step vert (34.5) and Lillard measured .5 less in max vert (39.5 for Lillard/40 for Rose). Lillard was faster in the lane agility test while Rose was faster in the 3/4 court sprint.

Lillard already is a great shooter as he shot 41% from 3 last season. He's a strong rebounder (5 rebounds per game last season). He's not great at setting up teammates and I doubt he will ever rack up more than 6 assists a game or so, but I don't think that is much of a problem with the way the PG position is played nowadays.
 
Dime Dropper

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vikinginferno said:
Agreed. He doesn't get as much credit because he was in the Big Sky Conference and is almost 22, but he is extremely talented. He has nearly identical size and athletic attributes to Rose. Like Rose, he is 6'3" with a 6'8" wingspan. They measured the same no step vert (34.5) and Lillard measured .5 less in max vert (39.5 for Lillard/40 for Rose). Lillard was faster in the lane agility test while Rose was faster in the 3/4 court sprint.

Lillard already is a great shooter as he shot 41% from 3 last season. He's a strong rebounder (5 rebounds per game last season). He's not great at setting up teammates and I doubt he will ever rack up more than 6 assists a game or so, but I don't think that is much of a problem with the way the PG position is played nowadays.
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Yeah, I was going to compare him athletically to Rose or Westbrook, but took a step back as that is a fairly ambitious and lofty comparison. But he's genuinely a fantastic athlete and very quick and explosive. Could certainly be in the same league as those guys in terms of athleticism. And I think his assist numbers are low simply due to the level he was at - had to take on the role of scorer and his team-mates weren't as good at finishing plays as they should have been. But I agree, he doesn't need to average 10+ assists to be a very good PG.

Hard to predict because of the small school and his age, but if we needed a guard, I'd probably take him even ahead of Beal. He'd be the first guard off the board, for me.
 
Bricklayer

Bricklayer

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Dime Dropper said:
Yeah, I was going to compare him athletically to Rose or Westbrook, but took a step back as that is a fairly ambitious and lofty comparison. But he's genuinely a fantastic athlete and very quick and explosive. Could certainly be in the same league as those guys in terms of athleticism. And I think his assist numbers are low simply due to the level he was at - had to take on the role of scorer and his team-mates weren't as good at finishing plays as they should have been. But I agree, he doesn't need to average 10+ assists to be a very good PG.

Hard to predict because of the small school and his age, but if we needed a guard, I'd probably take him even ahead of Beal. He'd be the first guard off the board, for me.
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6'2" big scorer from Big Sky Conference, fantastic athlete, not quite a pure point...hmmm....I remember this tune: ;)

 
Dime Dropper

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Bricklayer said:
6'2" big scorer from Big Sky Conference, fantastic athlete, not quite a pure point...hmmm....I remember this tune: ;)

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Hey, you could be right! I can't claim to have seen much at all of Lillard, I'm merely going by what I've read about him and seen in workouts and clips. So you won't find me defending him at all costs. However, he's a better prospect than Price ever was! If he goes to a team that needs a PG and he gets the opportunity, I think he'll surprise people.
 
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JB_kings

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Better yet, lets keep Tyreke. Then send the 5th pick and Thornton to the Blazers for Batum and the #11. You know, because we have been working out players who would most likely be selected around #11 anyway. :D
 
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baller13

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I in no way want to trade Tyreke. But i also know that we only won 22 games last year and i know that nobody on a team that only won 22 games should be untouchable. The only way i would even consider trading tyreke for the 6th pick is if both Robinson and Barnes were availabe when we picked 5th so we could get both of them. Or MKG if he somehow fell.
 
bajaden

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Dime Dropper said:
Hey, you could be right! I can't claim to have seen much at all of Lillard, I'm merely going by what I've read about him and seen in workouts and clips. So you won't find me defending him at all costs. However, he's a better prospect than Price ever was! If he goes to a team that needs a PG and he gets the opportunity, I think he'll surprise people.
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Only saw him play a few times. Just wasn't on the tube that much. Terrific scorer, and very good shooter. He didn' t show me much in the way of PG skills, but I'll cut him some slack because he was the teams main guy. He never impressed me as an athlete in the same class as Wall or Rose, but he's certainly a good athlete. Not sure why we would draft him, unless there's a trade in the works.
 
Section 101

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bajaden said:
Only saw him play a few times. Just wasn't on the tube that much. Terrific scorer, and very good shooter. He didn' t show me much in the way of PG skills, but I'll cut him some slack because he was the teams main guy. He never impressed me as an athlete in the same class as Wall or Rose, but he's certainly a good athlete. Not sure why we would draft him, unless there's a trade in the works.
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If they think Jimmer is a bust you draft him.
 
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