Tropical Island Music Artist Draft - FINIS

Capt. Factorial

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There were several widely disparate strategies going on in the Movies draft. Almsot several parallel drafts running. Some people were picking up critically acclaimed movies left and right as if it was a competition to see who could put together the strongest accumulation of critically acclimaed movies, some were picking wildly quirky and unique lists which I have to assume were a little exaggerated, and some people, like myself mostly, were playing the island scenario and just trying to pick fun and entertaining rewatchable stuff. In the end I think the voting has favored the latter kind of lists.
To be fair, some of us who had the "quirky" lists, and I assume I fall into that category, may have a different opinion of what is "fun and entertaining and rewatchable". As an example, I've seen Batman Begins, and I don't care to ever see it again. I was drafting the same strategy that you were, I was just making a list that suits my tastes.
 

pdxKingsFan

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My quirky list contained movies that I have rewatched dozens of times. There were only one or two newer flicks that hadn't held the test of time. Of course it was also highly personal with really odd reasons for those movies doing so, so I knew I wasn't going to win and don't care about that angle. But I do think I could put together a "competitive" list. If you ask me the big keys to "winning" are picking movies that everyone has seen, picking movies that everyone likes and staying upbeat. Which is why serious dramas (aka serious films that garner awards and acclaim) won't cut it against lighter fare. Some people don't want to be depressed, others don't want to watch 3 hour movies, Brick hates movies that glamourize criminal activity, I'm sure he isn't alone. There go potential votes down the drain. And drafting more than 4 movies that 5 people have not seen is the kiss of death. Especially if one or two of the 5 don't like the movies.

With music there is slightly more flexibility because sometimes a few people will actually go and check out the more obscure bands since it doesn't require that much of an investment but generally that only helps during the seeding rounds. The people that just come around randomly to vote are often less invested and didn't read your awesome write up on that Korean power trio.
 

pdxKingsFan

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Wow. I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I am absolutely thrilled to be getting Elvis at 12.

There are all the obvious reasons why Elvis is worthy of a top pick - the man is an icon with an iconic voice, he is largely responsible for introducing R&B/Rock and Roll music to white audiences which lead to what we consider "rock" today, the longevity of his career. The mystique and aura he has. I know many here know that I was married by Elvis. Well at least a fake one. My journey into Elvis fanhood was a strange one. One of my earliest musical influences, my 3rd/4th/5th grade music teacher who first taught me guitar and introduced me to the Beatles had completely written off Elvis. Or at least in my mind he had, when he said he ripped off black people's music and took it for his own. I guess that was a popular way to view it in the 80s. Most people have come back around to the view that he actually opened up a lot of doors for sales and exposure to white audiences and the industry at large and combined with the fact that he was always the first to give credit back to where it was due is enough to resolve this for me. Even Chuck D who was a very vocal critic has apparently come around on this one.

So my interest started more as an ironic one. I decided in my late teens that I was getting married by Elvis. It just seemed a cool thing to do and a way to pee off the folks. Elvis, Vegas, no big wedding which surely would be the expectation in my family. As it turns out I didn't get married until my mid-30s and by that time I had become a full fan.

See, my image of Elvis for most of my early years was the fat bloated drugged out piece of crap Elvis of the mid-70s. How on earth could that man be a legend? How tacky.

Enter my mid-20s. I start hitting karaoke bars, because of my dyed black hair and sideburns I'd frequently be requested to do Elvis. I'll never forget the time I was abandoned in the upper peninsula of Michigan and strolled into the bar across from my hotel, a snowmobiler's outpost and the bartender says to me, "Hey Elvis, do Hound Dog for me". That's when it hit me. Flip to the Elvis section in a karaoke book, at a bad establishment it is going to be like 40 songs. If you go to a top notch place the guy takes two friggin whole pages in the book.

And that is why I am so absolutely ecstatic to get him. Forget everything else above. The man recorded a zillion songs. Odds are that with this selection alone I will top out some people's full musical roster after their entire 20 picks.

50s R&B/Rock and Roll. Traditional country. Fast and nasty or slow love songs. Gospel. Awful soundtrack music. The late 60s renaissance. The horrific 70s descent into lounge act. Hell, the guy even has 4 or 5 out of print rare and highly sought full length albums devoted solely to the stuff he said on stage in between songs. For the purpose of this draft this is like that day in college you rediscovered vinyl, bought a turntable, went to the garage sale and found someone selling 30 crates of records for $10. Sure you have to sort through the junk but there are still crate loads of real gems in there.

So... those gems. for me, pretty much his entire 50s discography. The Sun and RCA recordings through his induction into the military. Then he spent most of the 60s doing crappy movies with bad soundtracks. I've probably written most of this off but there have to be some good things in there and on my island I'll figure them out at some point. Then the 68 Comeback and the Memphis revival. Elvis was back on top. Sadly it wouldn't last, but even those early Vegas shows were a treat. Watch Elvis: That's The Way It Is and you'll see flashes of brilliance.

So this works out well for me - an artist I absolutely love - who married me (hopefully in round 3 or 4 I can grab the one I named my dog after) who also happens to be a great value pick due to sheer volume of work. Fantastic. I'll leave with perhaps my favorite performance, but there are just too many to pick from.
 
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Okay, first off: this list is highly, highly personal. I won't even pretend to look for value or potential votes or whatever. Most of the bands I'll be picking haven't been, nor will ever be very influential and are, in the great scheme of things, probably very inconsequential. That being said, there is this one man that does not really fit into my draft list at all, but whose music I definitely need on my island.



Tom Waits

hell above and heaven below
all the trees are gone
the rain has a such a lovely sound
to those who're six feet underground
the leaves will bury every year
and no one knows I'm gone


My First Album of His: Alice
Favourite Album: Bone Machine
Why I Started Listening: A few years back, a friend of my parents loaned me two CDs of Mr. Waits', Alice and Blood Money. At first I was kind of puzzled, yet intrigued. I started collecting his records and, by now, own them all. There is just something about Mr. Waits that touches a nerve with me. Maybe it's his voice, which I think is the most awesome voice there is, maybe it's the stories he tells, maybe it's his whole style put together. I don't know. What I do know is that, despite every single song of his being very uniquely Waitsian, there is also a multitude of facets to his work, something to fit nearly any mood I could have and I need that on my island.


P.S.: pm would've been sent. Dime Dropper's inbox is full, though.
 
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There have been lots of bands/artists I love taken so far, several that I hate but expected to see go early (ugh, Rush...), but Waits is probably the first taken that would have been on my list. Love, love, love him.
 

Capt. Factorial

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Tom Waits is one of those voices (and styles, for that matter) that work for me for about a song or two, and then kind of start to blur together and maybe get a little repetitive. But he writes good, sometimes great lyrics and sometimes manages to pull them together with his music in a way that's memorable for a "non-fan" like me - notably "Time", "Tom Traubert's Blues" and my guilty pleasure of "The Piano Has Been Drinking". A voice like Waits' is pretty much perfect for a drinking song.
 

pdxKingsFan

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pdx - great pick! (but now I'm not sure my second pick will be safe before I get to pick again)
Even though this is at least the 4th music draft I've participated in and closely followed the others I have no idea how this will go solely because the one and done nature of picks. I went into this with about 4 artists I'd really like and expected to get two, now I am crossing my fingers to get 3. If I pull that off I think I will be content picking one album wonders the rest of the way :)
 
Might be considered a reach by some, but I don't care. I would be sick if someone else took them from me. I'm taking:





Coldplay

So many great songs, and one of the best bands live around. I think they are the best band in the world. They have songs for every possible mood you could be in. Some of the rockers here probably don't have much time for them, but honestly, I've never really had time for most of the big bands that have already been taken, so it's no biggie.


 
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Okay, first off: this list is highly, highly personal. I won't even pretend to look for value or potential votes or whatever. Most of the bands I'll be picking haven't been, nor will ever be very influential and are, in the great scheme of things, probably very inconsequential. That being said, there is this one man that does not really fit into my draft list at all, but whose music I definitely need on my island.
I hate you.
 
And with my number one pick I select:

The Fall (1976-active)


(Fall's most famous lineup, 1984, from left: Craig Scanlon, Steve Hanley, Paul Hanley, Brix Smith, Karl Burns, Mark E. Smith)

Favourite Album: Perverted by Language (1983)
Sample Song: Slang King (from The Wonderful and Frightening World of The Fall, 1984)

Definitely my favourite band of all times. In their 30+ years career they have done almost every possible kind of song, from the spooky long experimental(ish) piece to the catchy synth pop single, from the straight garage rocker to the melancholic ballad and so on...but their typical trademark piece is basically structured around a simple and catchy bass/guitar hook repeated ad nauseam, overridden with various layers of noise,with Mark E. Smith's drunken ramblings to top it all. (Yes, the lead singer isn't capable of singing properly)
One of the many great things about them is that they're still able to put out interesting and entertaining records to this day, despite being around for so many years and being about to reach their album #29 this November. Their only really uninspiring stretch came in the mid-late nineties, but since about 2000 they're back on a roll.
What's the secret behind this longevity? The answer is easy: more than 60 different lineups and only one constant member, the aforementioned Mark E. Smith. That's because a lot of members had to resign due to Smith being too much of an ***hole, and the remaining ones were sacked by him because he got tired of them or simply because they wouldn't follow orders.
Another thing I love about The Fall is that, unlike the vast majority of their always-dead-serious contemporaries, they always have a sense of humor, irony, satire both in their lyrics and their delivery, in fact it's not rare to hear Smith chuckling while singing a line during live takes.
I could write pages and pages on them but it's better if I stop here before I get annoying.
 
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Interesting pick. I'm not a huge fan, but they do have some great records.

I'm gonna link a song here considering the obscurity of your pick.

 
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There were several widely disparate strategies going on in the Movies draft. Almsot several parallel drafts running. Some people were picking up critically acclaimed movies left and right as if it was a competition to see who could put together the strongest accumulation of critically acclimaed movies, some were picking wildly quirky and unique lists which I have to assume were a little exaggerated, and some people, like myself mostly, were playing the island scenario and just trying to pick fun and entertaining rewatchable stuff. In the end I think the voting has favored the latter kind of lists, but it really was apples and oranges.
I was picking a lot of critically acclaimed films but they also happened to be favorites that I find rewatchable.
 
With my first pick I take, Pink Floyd.

I love everything they did from Meddle to The Wall. They have good stuff before and after that too, though. As well as the quirky Syd Barret era, which while I’m not a big fan of, is nice when you want to hear something different.

This pick is primarily for the great stuff, though. Dark Side of the Moon, The Wall, Wish you Were Here, all classics loaded with amazing songs.

I love their dreamy atmosphere, Gilmour’s soaring leads, and Water’s lyrics.

I won’t bother posting clips, as I’m sure everyone is already familiar with them and knows if they like them or not.

 
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With my second pick I take, The Doors.

I’m pretty thrilled to be getting The Doors and Pink Floyd, as both bands are top 5ish for me and I didn’t really expect them to still be here. Makes losing two of my other top 5 bands Led Zeppelin and Metallica hurt a little less.

What can I say about The Doors. I love The Doors. They had such a great sound and such great chemistry. Their first five albums are all classics that never get old to me.

 
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I absolutely hate Pink Floyd (even though I do kind of like 2 songs by them) but you rebounded with The Doors. Overall not as bad a first round as I expected for me
 
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Wow. I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I am absolutely thrilled to be getting Elvis at 12.

There are all the obvious reasons why Elvis is worthy of a top pick - the man is an icon with an iconic voice, he is largely responsible for introducing R&B/Rock and Roll music to white audiences which lead to what we consider "rock" today, the longevity of his career. The mystique and aura he has. I know many here know that I was married by Elvis. Well at least a fake one. My journey into Elvis fanhood was a strange one. One of my earliest musical influences, my 3rd/4th/5th grade music teacher who first taught me guitar and introduced me to the Beatles had completely written off Elvis. Or at least in my mind he had, when he said he ripped off black people's music and took it for his own. I guess that was a popular way to view it in the 80s. Most people have come back around to the view that he actually opened up a lot of doors for sales and exposure to white audiences and the industry at large and combined with the fact that he was always the first to give credit back to where it was due is enough to resolve this for me. Even Chuck D who was a very vocal critic has apparently come around on this one.

So my interest started more as an ironic one. I decided in my late teens that I was getting married by Elvis. It just seemed a cool thing to do and a way to pee off the folks. Elvis, Vegas, no big wedding which surely would be the expectation in my family. As it turns out I didn't get married until my mid-30s and by that time I had become a full fan.

See, my image of Elvis for most of my early years was the fat bloated drugged out piece of crap Elvis of the mid-70s. How on earth could that man be a legend? How tacky.

Enter my mid-20s. I start hitting karaoke bars, because of my dyed black hair and sideburns I'd frequently be requested to do Elvis. I'll never forget the time I was abandoned in the upper peninsula of Michigan and strolled into the bar across from my hotel, a snowmobiler's outpost and the bartender says to me, "Hey Elvis, do Hound Dog for me". That's when it hit me. Flip to the Elvis section in a karaoke book, at a bad establishment it is going to be like 40 songs. If you go to a top notch place the guy takes two friggin whole pages in the book.

And that is why I am so absolutely ecstatic to get him. Forget everything else above. The man recorded a zillion songs. Odds are that with this selection alone I will top out some people's full musical roster after their entire 20 picks.

50s R&B/Rock and Roll. Traditional country. Fast and nasty or slow love songs. Gospel. Awful soundtrack music. The late 60s renaissance. The horrific 70s descent into lounge act. Hell, the guy even has 4 or 5 out of print rare and highly sought full length albums devoted solely to the stuff he said on stage in between songs. For the purpose of this draft this is like that day in college you rediscovered vinyl, bought a turntable, went to the garage sale and found someone selling 30 crates of records for $10. Sure you have to sort through the junk but there are still crate loads of real gems in there.

So... those gems. for me, pretty much his entire 50s discography. The Sun and RCA recordings through his induction into the military. Then he spent most of the 60s doing crappy movies with bad soundtracks. I've probably written most of this off but there have to be some good things in there and on my island I'll figure them out at some point. Then the 68 Comeback and the Memphis revival. Elvis was back on top. Sadly it wouldn't last, but even those early Vegas shows were a treat. Watch Elvis: That's The Way It Is and you'll see flashes of brilliance.

So this works out well for me - an artist I absolutely love - who married me (hopefully in round 3 or 4 I can grab the one I named my dog after) who also happens to be a great value pick due to sheer volume of work. Fantastic. I'll leave with perhaps my favorite performance, but there are just too many to pick from.
Great pick with Elvis. You sound like a huge fan. He was on my radar if he was still around in the middle rounds. Which I thought he might be as there seems to be a lot of dislike for him out there (for reasons i can't fathom) especially among younger people. He had one of the best male voices ever in my book. So many great songs too. Who cares whether he wrote them or not. He brought them to life and made them his own with his incredible performances. he also played with some great musicians like Scotty Moore. Amazing pick from a volume standpoint too. I bet it would take a solid month just to listen to his full discography.
 
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