NEWS: Kings trade Casspi + first rounder for JJ Hickson
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There, you go! Send your ambition over to the Kings front office please!
C - Dalembert
C - Cousins
PF - Hickson
PF - Thompson
SF - Kirilenko
SF - Salmons
SG - Thornton
SG - Garcia
PG - Evans
PG - Fredette
Cheerleaders: Greene, Whiteside
add in 1 veteran backup point, and you are as talented (not good mind you) but as talented as any team in the NBA. Alas, you just don't see teams stack themselves up that deep very often. Players don't like it because they get squeezed for minutes, and you have to pay guys too much to be bit players. Especially with a hard cap looming, you would have to break the team up in a couple of years just to get under the cap.
Young athletic big! Great pick-up! I remembered Hickson at one time was a regular at NBA Top 10 highlights two seasons ago when Lebron was still with the Cavs. I often mistook him as Lebron, as he was dunking a lot of times. He lost his minutes during the playoffs and was out of the rotation after that. I didn't see him much this season but guy has big potential. I also remember Lebron criticizing Brown for not playing Hickson enough during the playoffs as they went with Shaq most of the time.
I think this is a nice deal. But there are still some big concerns that others have already pointed out. While the highlight reel blocks are nice, the concern is that he is a very poor defender on pick and rolls and perimeter skilled PFs exploit him. In other words on defense he has many of the same flaws as DMC.
Making the playoffs doesn't mean this trade worked out for us. Maybe Hickson is a significant part of any success we might have, in which case that's a great thing, but we could make the playoffs with Hickson riding the bench. Not likely, but still... I'm just saying, if we're a low seed team and we don't have a first rounder to use or trade in 2012, we might change the grade of this deal. Was just pointing out that this isn't just Hickson > Casspi, therefore we win this trade. There's also a first rounder involved.
There, you go! Send your ambition over to the Kings front office please!
C - Dalembert
C - Cousins
PF - Hickson
PF - Thompson
SF - Kirilenko
SF - Salmons
SG - Thornton
SG - Garcia
PG - Evans
PG - Fredette
Cheerleaders: Greene, Whiteside
add in 1 veteran backup point, and you are as talented (not good mind you) but as talented as any team in the NBA. Alas, you just don't see teams stack themselves up that deep very often. Players don't like it because they get squeezed for minutes, and you have to pay guys too much to be bit players. Especially with a hard cap looming, you would have to break the team up in a couple of years just to get under the cap.
C - Dalembert
C - Cousins
PF - Hickson
PF - Thompson
SF - Kirilenko
SF - Salmons
SG - Thornton
SG - Garcia
PG - Evans
PG - Fredette
Cheerleaders: Greene, Whiteside
add in 1 veteran backup point, and you are as talented (not good mind you) but as talented as any team in the NBA. Alas, you just don't see teams stack themselves up that deep very often. Players don't like it because they get squeezed for minutes, and you have to pay guys too much to be bit players. Especially with a hard cap looming, you would have to break the team up in a couple of years just to get under the cap.
This takes the pressure off the Daly drama. JJ is not a great substitute for what Daly brings us but perhaps the FO thinks Daly's replacement eventually will be Whiteside. Just the same, Cleveland papers say JJ is a defensive player who can rebound. Perhap the reason for the vibes about Daly not being resigned had a lot to do with the faith in Whiteside and the knowledge of this trade. Seems reasonable.
As to Whiteside, I have posted this before but I think we may have gotten a bargain. IF his torn tendon slowed him down at the end of his college career or IF scouts got wind of some knee pain, teams may have dropped a first rounder to a second rounder. Let us remember that WHiteside's injury is curable unlike the dreaded injury that requires microfracture surgery. I can explain it better if some one wishes.
Under normal circumstances, a defensive specialist will not go high in the draft so perhaps we stole at the minimum a 20th pick. Someone siad Whiteside was projected as a #10 pick.
I would not sign another big. At the worst we can get by with JT/JJ/Cuz and at the best we can add Whiteside for spot minutes which I think is ideal. Daly would squelch the development of Whiteside. They are very similar.
So far we have traded 2 bench players for starters. That's a good week. The 1st round pick we gave up in this trade was next to useless as the last thing we need is more average young talent to clog the works.
Let me remind anyone reading this that a while back I was very critical of Hassan (until I learned of his injury) and I am an ardent Daly fan. No one is irreplaceable this side of Jordan, Kareem, and a few still playing. Our only irreplaceable players are NOT going to be replaced so I'm not sure how we could do worse than what we have done. This is bit of an exaggeration but this is a great trade.
We trade a good player in Casspi that had no role on this team and a pick that might be iseless to us and get a young big.
As to Whiteside, I have posted this before but I think we may have gotten a bargain. IF his torn tendon slowed him down at the end of his college career or IF scouts got wind of some knee pain, teams may have dropped a first rounder to a second rounder. Let us remember that WHiteside's injury is curable unlike the dreaded injury that requires microfracture surgery. I can explain it better if some one wishes.
Under normal circumstances, a defensive specialist will not go high in the draft so perhaps we stole at the minimum a 20th pick. Someone siad Whiteside was projected as a #10 pick.
I would not sign another big. At the worst we can get by with JT/JJ/Cuz and at the best we can add Whiteside for spot minutes which I think is ideal. Daly would squelch the development of Whiteside. They are very similar.
So far we have traded 2 bench players for starters. That's a good week. The 1st round pick we gave up in this trade was next to useless as the last thing we need is more average young talent to clog the works.
Let me remind anyone reading this that a while back I was very critical of Hassan (until I learned of his injury) and I am an ardent Daly fan. No one is irreplaceable this side of Jordan, Kareem, and a few still playing. Our only irreplaceable players are NOT going to be replaced so I'm not sure how we could do worse than what we have done. This is bit of an exaggeration but this is a great trade.
We trade a good player in Casspi that had no role on this team and a pick that might be iseless to us and get a young big.
What a great pickup!
Hickson is a much better player than Casspi and this deal is a no-brainer even with next years lottery protected draft pick included. The spreadsheet below shows that a first round pick outside of the top ten only has an 18% chance of being a starter and has a 49% chance of being a non-impact player. Hickson is either a starter or else one of the top 3rd bigs in the league. Casspi was buried on the depth chart, and we were just able to capitalize on Cleveland's strange infatuation with Tristan Thompson (Tristan Thompson does not have the skills to start over there, it is going to be a rough year again for Cleveland). If we can hold onto Dalembert we have a deep and talented team with a good mix of youth and veterans.
Hickson is a much better player than Casspi and this deal is a no-brainer even with next years lottery protected draft pick included. The spreadsheet below shows that a first round pick outside of the top ten only has an 18% chance of being a starter and has a 49% chance of being a non-impact player. Hickson is either a starter or else one of the top 3rd bigs in the league. Casspi was buried on the depth chart, and we were just able to capitalize on Cleveland's strange infatuation with Tristan Thompson (Tristan Thompson does not have the skills to start over there, it is going to be a rough year again for Cleveland). If we can hold onto Dalembert we have a deep and talented team with a good mix of youth and veterans.
Well who knows how free agency will work in the next CBA, however I do agree just because I think it is going to be highly unlikely that whatever the outcome is that it would be unfriendly to teams trying to retain their players. But it is another guy demanding to get paid in front of Tyreke and Cousins and if there is a hard cap that is a bit troubling.
I think thiis takes the pressure off the resigning of Daly as we now have three bigs. IF we don't go after Daly, it means we have faith in the development of Hassan. Daly would squelch the development of Hassan. Daly is the best person to sign for immediate results and I REALLY like Daly but sticking with what we have and giving Hassan the 4th big's minutes is an investment in the future.
