So What Teams Do You Think are ABSOLUTELY Worse than Kings?
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It's tough to say on some of these because it depends on match ups. I mean last year I thought we would beat Philly atleast once, and they ended up beating us both times. I thought we could atleast beat Minnesota at their place one time and that hasn't happened in what 2 or 3 years? As for this year, I am expecting to beat the T-Wolves atleast twice or maybe three if we can manage to beat them at Minnesota. We should be able to beat the Nets atleast once, Philadelphia, Washington. I am hoping we could beat the Raptors twice, they are just awful as well as Cleveland. Atleast two wins against the Griz, both at Arco of course, we haven't won in Memphis in awhile as well. We should be able to beat Denver two or three times IF Melo gets traded. Phoenix might not be as strong but they still will be tough as long as Nash is there so I expect only a win most likely, hopefully two! I expect a split between us & the Warriors. That's about it, unless I left out some teams.
A couple of years ago I could have named quite a few teams, but now, maybe the Thunder. Other than them, I don't think I'd trade with any other team. Not that some aren't better than us right now. But when looking into my crystal ball, I don't see anyone with a future brighter than ours. So I think I'd just as soon ride the horse I road in on. Ask me again halfway through the season, and I may have a different opinion.
The Kings are better than several teams but it's hard to say who they'll beat 3 out of 4 times or 2 out of 2 times. Teams often lose to worse squads and some teams just seem to have another team's number despite having less overall talent.
But if the question is, which teams do I think are worse than the Kings at this very moment then I can answer that.
Two teams had worse records in 2009 - Minnesota and New Jersey. Barring the nets landing Carmelo, neither has improved enough to make me think they are better than Sacramento.
Of the teams that finished just above the Kings, I think Sacramento has improved more and will be better than Washington, Philadelphia and Detroit. Golden State is tough because I didn't love their summer moves and they will have a new coach, but they have enough young talent to improve regardless. Washington will have Arenas (for better or worse) AND Wall so it's tough to say the Kings are better. And the Clippers are another tough call because a lot hinges on how good Blake Griffin is.
On the other hand, I think Cleveland and Toronto are now below the Kings after the defections of LeBron and Bosh.
So in my mind the Kings are better than seven teams and possibly 10.
Not world beaters by any stretch but they have definitely improved. More importantly, there is more hope for the future with this team than with any of the others I've mentioned. I officially have my hopes up that the Kings can be contenders again. Not this season, but soon.
But if the question is, which teams do I think are worse than the Kings at this very moment then I can answer that.
Two teams had worse records in 2009 - Minnesota and New Jersey. Barring the nets landing Carmelo, neither has improved enough to make me think they are better than Sacramento.
Of the teams that finished just above the Kings, I think Sacramento has improved more and will be better than Washington, Philadelphia and Detroit. Golden State is tough because I didn't love their summer moves and they will have a new coach, but they have enough young talent to improve regardless. Washington will have Arenas (for better or worse) AND Wall so it's tough to say the Kings are better. And the Clippers are another tough call because a lot hinges on how good Blake Griffin is.
On the other hand, I think Cleveland and Toronto are now below the Kings after the defections of LeBron and Bosh.
So in my mind the Kings are better than seven teams and possibly 10.
Not world beaters by any stretch but they have definitely improved. More importantly, there is more hope for the future with this team than with any of the others I've mentioned. I officially have my hopes up that the Kings can be contenders again. Not this season, but soon.
Nice dodge. Running for office?
No, Mr. Senator, that's not the question. Not our future 2 or 3 years hence, not talent and potential, just answer the question of who this year is ABSOLUTELY worse than the Kings and who you'd be shocked out of your mind if the Kings couldn't beat them 3 out 4 in the West, or 2 out of 2 in the East.
No, Mr. Senator, that's not the question. Not our future 2 or 3 years hence, not talent and potential, just answer the question of who this year is ABSOLUTELY worse than the Kings and who you'd be shocked out of your mind if the Kings couldn't beat them 3 out 4 in the West, or 2 out of 2 in the East.
The Western Conference is all that really matters right now, and honestly .. to answer the first question, The only team I KNOW the Kings will be better than is the Twolves. There are teams we should be better than, and I think we will be better then .. but im not positive. The Clippers and Warriors both look better on paper then they did last season, and both teams finished last year ahead of us.
Nice dodge. Running for office? No, Mr. Senator, that's not the question. Not our future 2 or 3 years hence, not talent and potential, just answer the question of who this year is ABSOLUTELY worse than the Kings and who you'd be shocked out of your mind if the Kings couldn't beat them 3 out 4 in the West, or 2 out of 2 in the East.
No, Mr. Senator, that's not the question. Not our future 2 or 3 years hence, not talent and potential, just answer the question of who this year is ABSOLUTELY worse than the Kings and who you'd be shocked out of your mind if the Kings couldn't beat them 3 out 4 in the West, or 2 out of 2 in the East.
So I'll just pick teams that I think are worse than the Kings. In the western conference. Timberwolves, Warriors, Hornets, Nuggets, Trailblazers, and possibly the Suns.. I think all of these teams will have a worse record than we will. As to who we'll beat 3 out of 4 times, I have no idea...
I'll go out on a limb here...
I think we are clearly better than:
Clippers, Nuggets*, T'Wolves, Pistons, Raptors, Cavaliers, Pacers, 76ers (8 teams)
I think we are liable to be competitive with:
Suns, Rockets, Bucks, Nets*, Wizards, Bobcats, Grizzlies, Warriors, Hornets, Knicks (10 teams)
I think we are clearly worse than:
Lakers, Blazers, Jazz, Thunder, Mavericks, Spurs, Bulls, Celtics, Heat, Hawks, Magic (11 teams)
(I am assuming that Carmelo gets traded to the Nets. If not, the Nuggets are better than we are, and the Nets are worse. Western Conference teams in bold. Order is sort of randomly geographic, I wasn't ordering teams within each list.)
I think we are clearly better than:
Clippers, Nuggets*, T'Wolves, Pistons, Raptors, Cavaliers, Pacers, 76ers (8 teams)
I think we are liable to be competitive with:
Suns, Rockets, Bucks, Nets*, Wizards, Bobcats, Grizzlies, Warriors, Hornets, Knicks (10 teams)
I think we are clearly worse than:
Lakers, Blazers, Jazz, Thunder, Mavericks, Spurs, Bulls, Celtics, Heat, Hawks, Magic (11 teams)
(I am assuming that Carmelo gets traded to the Nets. If not, the Nuggets are better than we are, and the Nets are worse. Western Conference teams in bold. Order is sort of randomly geographic, I wasn't ordering teams within each list.)
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Absolutely better than ...
The Kings ABSOLUTELY beat Minnesota 3 out of 4 times and ABSOLUTELY BEAT New Jersey and New York twice (presuming neither of those teams end up with 'Melo).
I think they're better than several other team and like their upside, but if you're talking about betting the ranch, that's about it at the moment.
The Kings ABSOLUTELY beat Minnesota 3 out of 4 times and ABSOLUTELY BEAT New Jersey and New York twice (presuming neither of those teams end up with 'Melo).
I think they're better than several other team and like their upside, but if you're talking about betting the ranch, that's about it at the moment.
This is an interesting question. Obviously the Thunder have to be up there. The Clippers have a case (provided we get to keep the Maloofs and Petrie) with Griffin, Aminu, Gordon, Kaman and Davis- a good mix of youth and vets. You could also argue Portland and Utah.
I also wouldn't count out the Lakers long term. Bynum is young, Gasol still has some years, Barnes, Artest and Odom can stick around for a while. Their ability to draw talent will be strong for a long while (of course this doesn't really answer the queston of swapping rosters)
I also wouldn't count out the Lakers long term. Bynum is young, Gasol still has some years, Barnes, Artest and Odom can stick around for a while. Their ability to draw talent will be strong for a long while (of course this doesn't really answer the queston of swapping rosters)
Trailblazers? After having one of the most injury plagued seasons in recent memory and still winning 50+? What are you thinking is going to happen to them this year? Is Mt. Hood about to explode?
I agree with you on two different questions, but after I wrote the post I thought: What the hell...
You really think the Trailblazers are absolutely worse than the Kings (in terms of this coming years' record)?
Answering my own question, the only team I think is absolutely worse than the Kings, both in terms of head to head competition and in win-loss record, would be Minnesota. Every other team, I'm not nearly as confident. Revised: I forgot about New York. Yes, I definitely think they are worse than the Kings.
You really think the Trailblazers are absolutely worse than the Kings (in terms of this coming years' record)?
Answering my own question, the only team I think is absolutely worse than the Kings, both in terms of head to head competition and in win-loss record, would be Minnesota. Every other team, I'm not nearly as confident. Revised: I forgot about New York. Yes, I definitely think they are worse than the Kings.
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I agree with you on two different questions, but after I wrote the post I thought: What the hell...
You really think the Trailblazers are absolutely worse than the Kings (in terms of this coming years' record)?
Answering my own question, the only team I think is absolutely worse than the Kings, both in terms of head to head competition and in win-loss record, would be Minnesota. Every other team, I'm not nearly as confident. Revised: I forgot about New York. Yes, I definitely think they are worse than the Kings.
You really think the Trailblazers are absolutely worse than the Kings (in terms of this coming years' record)?
Answering my own question, the only team I think is absolutely worse than the Kings, both in terms of head to head competition and in win-loss record, would be Minnesota. Every other team, I'm not nearly as confident. Revised: I forgot about New York. Yes, I definitely think they are worse than the Kings.
After those players all you have is Wesley Mathews, goint into his second year. Dante Cunningham also going into his second year. And rookies, Luke Babbit, who I like, and Elliot Williams and Armon Johnson. Talent wise, I think the Kings are a better team. Doesn't mean they'll have a better record, but something tells me that they will....
As an aside, Oden has been injured every year since his junior year in highschool. Last year when he started the season his weight was listed at 258, but the trainer for the Trailblazers said that he weighed over 300 pounds to start the season. Portland is between a rock and a hard spot after this season. This is Oden's last year on his contract and Portland still doesn't know if he's worth resigning for a significant amount of money..
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Its kinda depressing to see how bad the Kings still are, and then to think about how much of that plays into the whole stadium/move drama.
I remember when the Kings began "rebuilding" everyone cited the Blazers.. about how they sucked when they started their rebuild and how good they eventually became.
Well... its been how many years now? I know it takes a while to "rebuild" but this is sad.
I remember when the Kings began "rebuilding" everyone cited the Blazers.. about how they sucked when they started their rebuild and how good they eventually became.
Well... its been how many years now? I know it takes a while to "rebuild" but this is sad.
