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The Tyreke Evans vs. Rubio: Last year problem team was a mess and Kings needed a PG. Right now, Kings have Evans and Sergio (and a resurrected Udrih). Rubio is not a King. Rubio is playing in Barcelona. Why discuss? It's quite obvious that draft has been veeeery cool this year. Reke is a beast and Sergio is almost as good as Rubio, he's here and he's for real.

Tyreke Evans is playing PG because last year Udrih was a disaster and Kings needad a PG and Evans was playing PG at University because the rest of his team sucked, and that is was he was supposed to do and it's doing: playing at PG. Even with Udrih. But hey, he is a SG. He's even more like LeBron than Wade, I think. What I saw at least yesterday is he can't run the offense: he was the offense. He scored a lot but Kings were losing (closer) while he was making double digits in a quarter, and nobody except him was participating in attack. He's damn good, and he can play well at PG (as Wade does: kid is a genius).

He sometimes run quite well the offense, but not as a true PG. If we continues playing at PG, he'll improve: obvius. But he is a SG and is being misused: add to his scoring abilities a guy giving him easy passes -the easy passes he don't get playing at PG because is the one who has to give easy passes- and it'll score more. Let the kid be powered by Sergio.

Right now (see yesterday's 3rd quarter) Tyreke doesn't make the difference in the wins. Tyreke makes the jumps between the team sucking and him puting the team on the game, which is a lot. But he's not Jordan. And even Jordan had Pippen.

I don't like statistics because they are taken as pure facts, as it the players were pokemons. But +/- it's a good look at how the team as a whole it's working:



Without Udrih, Thompson, Greene, Casspi or Sergio playing at the level they've shown this month, Kings wouldn't be wining 9/8. I do understand being excited with Tyreke (kid plays at an all-star level) but this is a team sport, and the complete team is showing amazing skills in atack (people, seriously: the center scores 3s) and balls.
 
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The Tyreke Evans vs. Rubio: Last year problem team was a mess and Kings needed a PG. Right now, Kings have Evans and Sergio (and a resurrected Udrih). Rubio is not a King. Rubio is playing in Barcelona. Why discuss? It's quite obvious that draft has been veeeery cool this year. Reke is a beast and Sergio is almost as good as Rubio, he's here and he's for real.

Tyreke Evans is playing PG because last year Udrih was a disaster and Kings needad a PG and Evans was playing PG at University because the rest of his team sucked, and that is was he was supposed to do and it's doing: playing at PG. Even with Udrih. But hey, he is a SG. He's even more like LeBron than Wade, I think. What I saw at least yesterday is he can't run the offense: he was the offense. He scored a lot but Kings were losing (closer) while he was making double digits in a quarter, and nobody except him was participating in attack. He's damn good, and he can play well at PG (as Wade does: kid is a genius).

He sometimes run quite well the offense, but not as a true PG. If we continues playing at PG, he'll improve: obvius. But he is a SG and is being misused: add to his scoring abilities a guy giving him easy passes -the easy passes he don't get playing at PG because is the one who has to give easy passes- and it'll score more. Let the kid be powered by Sergio.

Right now (see yesterday's 3rd quarter) Tyreke doesn't make the difference in the wins. Tyreke makes the jumps between the team sucking and him puting the team on the game, which is a lot. But he's not Jordan. And even Jordan had Pippen.

I don't like statistics because they are taken as pure facts, as it the players were pokemons. But +/- it's a good look at how the team as a whole it's working:



Without Udrih, Thompson, Greene, Casspi or Sergio playing at the level they've shown this month, Kings wouldn't be wining 9/8. I do understand being excited with Tyreke (kid plays at an all-star level) but this is a team sport, and the complete team is showing amazing skills in atack (people, seriously: the center scores 3s) and balls.
Bingo
 
Methinks your newfound fascination with PER -- an arcane made up statistic designed to give a nerdy accountant a sports journalist's career -- is rather suspicious.

Methinks if you couldn't use PER to support your latest assaults on Reke, it would be turnovers, or fouls, or +/- or pts/min, or just whatever else you could flail about and find to contnue what has become a blatantly ridiculous quest.

You and a few others are just killing yourselves here. Just destroying your enjoyment of your own team for the sake of ego. Its a very unwise choice. While Reke leads this team out of the darkness, and starts picking up accolades from all around the country, a handful of you are sitting here self-defining yourselves as a resistance movement, and for what? Other than ego, for what? Do you truly think you are going to be able to spend the next 10 years rooting for a team while simultanousely trashing its best player? Or do you already have your escape route planned? The magic statistic that you will seize upon to justify reversing course and "saying see now Reke has satisfied me" before coming back to the fold? As you continue to blatantly scrounge about looking for mud to throw at a pretty marvelous looking 20 year old player, how long do you think you can do that before a) nobody is going to buy your future sudden transformation; and b) you build up so great a dislike of a 20 year old kid for absolutely no reason that its going to poison your enjoyment of Kings games for roughly a quarter of your adult life.

You had a schtick there that I thought was going to allow you to make it through -- a constant, unenending, completely out of proportion focus on casting aspersions on Reke's PG ability. It was silly, and annoying, but it was the sort of specialist complaint that you could eventually ease out of. But as the success has grown and the accolades have grown, you just seem to be getting more and more desperate to poke holes in maybe the best thing that has happened to Kings fans in a good 10 years, and that's absolutely the wrong dynamic for a fan of the team to have if they are going to draw any enjoyment out of the enterprise. You can question this and you can question that, but openly rooting against and trying to cut down Reke at every opportunity is just going to lead you to a cold cold place with no way back.

You've got to let it go, Shrug and move on. Hell even I was wrong once. I think. Well...maybe half right. Okay three quarters right. But it happens. Reke failing is not essential to your worldview. You can spin this argument around and just say that Rubio would have been a better pure PG than Reke and cover at least 90% of your butt at least until Rubio comes over years from now, by which point most people around here will have long since forgotten who was for what back in the day. But you can't if you continue to associate yourself with an unending stream of bile and aspersions toward a kid who has done absolutely nothing wrong for this franchise, and a whiole hell of a lot right.
Who said I wasn't enjoying the season? I just dont agree that reke deserves so much credit as this board and media make it out. The coaching staff and other players deserve it. Not that Evans doesn't deserve his part. He has played well, the same as Beno. The team would still be where it is at if it was Evans hurt and not Martin.
 
Who said I wasn't enjoying the season? I just dont agree that reke deserves so much credit as this board and media make it out. The coaching staff and other players deserve it. Not that Evans doesn't deserve his part. He has played well, the same as Beno. The team would still be where it is at if it was Evans hurt and not Martin.
So find me a quote where people give Reke as the main reason for the turn around?

Even Casspi is being given credit along with Brockman, GP, the coach. We're just fascinated by the potential of Reke because we drafted him to be our star. And he's shining bright. You guys just wanna turn him into a meteor.

The team could be here, there, and everywhere if, this, and that. Stop the speculations.

you could say that, but from the beginning i said that we would win 33 games.
Also AM27...stop stating as if you believe we're a 30ish win team from the beginning. If anything, you stated prior to the season that we're still the exact same team. And with the wasted draft pick, we still suck. You repeatedly mentioned we're still the worst team even during the preseason games. 33 wins my arse. During that time only the homer were believing that.
 
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So find me a quote where people give Reke as the main reason for the turn around?

Even Casspi is being given credit along with Brockman, GP the coach. We're just fascinated by the potential of Reke because we drafted him to be our star. And he's shining bright. You guys just wanna turn him into a meteor.

The team could be here there and everywhere if this and that. Stop the speculatios.
Read the boards and listen to Rant and Jerry.
 
Read the boards and listen to Rant and Jerry.
Like I said, I see praises for Evans ability and the success he got. Rightfully so. He won ROM and people are happy about it. He is part of the reason, just as much of the coach, the newly acquire guys, the team effort, the improvement of the younger guys. If you see the vote who's your favorite player, there are plenty to go around. Tyreke may be leading but everyone else is also getting the credit.

To even mentioned that removing him we would still be just as successful is to discredit what Evans had accomplished. You sir are just too close minded to see.
 
Who said I wasn't enjoying the season? I just dont agree that reke deserves so much credit as this board and media make it out. The coaching staff and other players deserve it. Not that Evans doesn't deserve his part. He has played well, the same as Beno. The team would still be where it is at if it was Evans hurt and not Martin.
That's what gets people riled up, Evans has played well, and so has Beno, but its not the same. One guy is playing like a superstar and one guy is a role player who really is shooting the ball great. And the team would not be where its at if Evans was hurt and not Martin. That is wrong and ridiculous.

There's a list of good and exciting things happening to the Kings that I posted earlier in this thread...but Tyreke stands out. WAY out.

The stats in the 11 games Tyreke has played since Martin went down.
22.9 ppg 5.9 rpg 5.5 apg 1.2 stl 48.1 FG% 37.5 3 point %.

The Kings are 8-3 during these games. Its really not rocket science.
 
That's what gets people riled up, Evans has played well, and so has Beno, but its not the same. One guy is playing like a superstar and one guy is a role player who really is shooting the ball great. And the team would not be where its at if Evans was hurt and not Martin. That is wrong and ridiculous.

There's a list of good and exciting things happening to the Kings that I posted earlier in this thread...but Tyreke stands out. WAY out.

The stats in the 11 games Tyreke has played since Martin went down.
22.9 ppg 5.9 rpg 5.5 apg 1.2 stl 48.1 FG% 37.5 3 point %.

The Kings are 8-3 during these games. Its really not rocket science.
So then why do the stats all show Beno being equal or better?

The since Martin went out has 2 flaws. First, Beno started second May and Mason weren't starters. It could equally be said he Kings got better when May stopped getting play time.

I think the superstar is being thrown around way to much. He hasn't been Wade, LBJ or CP3. He's been above average.
 
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Damn rookie, do you want me to find the season win predictions thread? I was the first person to say that we would win 33 games in that thread and have been saying it the entire time. It's like you want me to get an infraction. Once I get home I'll find the thread again and bump it so that you can see it for yourself...
 
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So then why do the stats all show Beno being equal or better?
Wow....PER and +/- are good tools for player evaluation, but any statistician will tell you that they're tools. They're not the decider. If you think Beno has played as well as Tyreke, then you need to evaluate the way use your tools.

The since Martin went out has 2 flaws. First, Beno started second May and Mason weren't starters. It could equally be said he Kings got better when May stopped getting play time.
In regards to Tyreke's stats it has no flaws. Its simply what he's done. There are obviously other reasons we've gone 8-3 in that stretch, and they all very exciting. But the physcially dominant 23/6/5 is what stands out.

I think the superstar is being thrown around way to much. He hasn't been Wade, LBJ or CP3. He's been above average.
Who cares what you think? JK...I think 23/6/5 on good shooting constitutes superstar level performance. Does't mean he is a superstar yet, but hes played like one his last 11 games.
 
im serious... im not down playing evans, the 41 wins is really just adding 6-8 more wins than i expected the team to win anyways... if a player cant add 8 more wins to the win column then why are you guys praising him.
Asking Tyreke to add 8 more wins for the Kings this season means having them win 25 games. While you may expect them to win 33 games, no one really cares about anyone's expectations (even yours). You can only rate a player on what they help their team to do compared what the team DID prior to their arrival.

I also like how you dismissed Labron James not getting enough wins because he went to a bad team. Last time I checked, the Kings were the worst team in the league last season. How much worse can you get?
 
A lot of people here have 'agendas' for certain individual players on this team -- that's where all these hostility amongst Kings Fans come from...

My stance is, lets not fight amongst ourselves...we all want every KING to have success, but lets not put any ONE kings' success over the team's success.

We are a TEAM, and I'm so happy that Everyone is having a part in our recent winning play!
 
Damn rookie, do you want me to find the season win predictions thread? I was the first person to say that we would win 33 games in that thread and have been saying it the entire time. It's like you want me to get an infraction. Once I get home I'll find the thread again and bump it so that you can see it for yourself...
Heres the quote in a thread about the expectation of this season.

we will be better than last season as long as martin is healthy... if he plays at least 75 games will win about 30 games. it depends on if we can keep it close during games against other bad teams. if we can split wins with half of the other bad teams then steal some wins from a few good teams we can win about 30 games without looking too bad and still having an enjoyable season..
the 2 quotes were refering to 2 different teams. one was last years and the other was my expectations of this team in an ideal situation where everything goes according to plan. which is sad because under ideal situations i think this team can only win 30 games and i dont think that evans is a pg. so i am just as pessimistic about the team as ever, dont get it twisted. but its still my team. i want them to win as many games as possible but i dont think that they will win that many games. we will still win fewer games than we did with musselman as our coach which is a damn shame.
Basically if I'm not mistaken, if KMart plays all the games, and the Kings play well their best would be a 30 wins team. Guess I was wrong, you did predict that we win 30ish. :rolleyes:

Section101 expected us to be 15 games. Even worst than last season.

But whatever...I'm happy with 9/8 going into Dec even if all we play were not good team.
 
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Heres the quote in a thread about the expectation of this season.





Basically if I'm not mistaken, if KMart plays all the games, and the Kings play well their best would be a 30 wins team. Guess I was wrong, you did predict that we win 30ish. :rolleyes:

Section101 expected us to be 15 games. Even worst than last season.

But whatever...I'm happy with 9/8 going into Dec even if all we play were not good team.
You're totally awesome Rook. Can I be your wingman?
 

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Right now (see yesterday's 3rd quarter) Tyreke doesn't make the difference in the wins. Tyreke makes the jumps between the team sucking and him puting the team on the game, which is a lot. But he's not Jordan. And even Jordan had Pippen.

I don't like statistics because they are taken as pure facts, as it the players were pokemons. But +/- it's a good look at how the team as a whole it's working:



Without Udrih, Thompson, Greene, Casspi or Sergio playing at the level they've shown this month, Kings wouldn't be wining 9/8. I do understand being excited with Tyreke (kid plays at an all-star level) but this is a team sport, and the complete team is showing amazing skills in atack (people, seriously: the center scores 3s) and balls.
I agree with you about the importance of the team. Not about the point guard issue (He's a guard. He's not a 2 or 1. He's a guard. And it doesn't matter if he's not a true point guard because there have been NUMEROUS teams that won championships without one).

Now back to my main point. It is a team sport, and the cast is playing very well for being so young. Also, the coach has much credit to take. But Tyreke's value doesn't just come from his stat line. It comes from the confidence that he gives his team. When you have a guy with that ability in your backcourt handling the ball, he takes the pressure off. That's hard to quantify, but it really does exist. If you're Thompson, Hawes, Beno, etc. you know that you're playing with a flat out STUD, and that means you have a chance to win. If you don't have that kind of player, then the pressure devolves to those same guys, and they just can't handle it. We saw that last year - 17 wins.
 
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I agree with you about the importance of the team. Not about the point guard issue (He's a guard. He's not a 2 or 1. He's a guard. And it doesn't matter if he's not a true point guard because there have been NUMEROUS teams that won championships without one).

Now back to my main point. It is a team sport, and the cast is playing very well for being so young. Also, the coach has much credit to take. But Tyreke's value doesn't just come from his stat line. It comes from the confidence that he gives his team. When you have a guy with that ability in your backcourt handling the ball, he takes the pressure off. That's hard to quantify, but it really does exist. If you're Thompson, Hawes, Beno, etc. you know that you're playing with a flat out STUD, and that means you have a chance to win. If you don't have that kind of player, then the pressure devolves to those same guys, and they just can't handle it. We saw that last year - 17 wins.
Great post. Playing with Tyreke affords the others to focus on what they do best without the pressure to perform, because you always have Reke to fall back on. They don't need to depend on Reke but they know that the other team is afradi of him which makes it easier for them to play their games and attack. And good results are the order.
 
I think the superstar is being thrown around way to much. He hasn't been Wade, LBJ or CP3. He's been above average.
For a 20 year old, in the first handful of games of his career, to put up those numbers....that's about as good an indicator (this early in his career) as you'll get regarding potential superstardom. Does it mean that he will be a superstar? Who the heck knows. However, I'm not sure why you would be dismissive of the numbers.

Show me the stats of "average" and we'll see how much better they are....better yet, show me the stats of the average rookie.

....grasping....at....straws.
 

Bricklayer

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If Brandon Jennings gets mentioned as a potential superstar, and Derrick Rose gets mentioned as a potential superstar, and Kevin Durant got mentioned as a potential superstar before that...Tyreke has been at least as impressive as all those guys in his rookie season. And he's got all the classic markers. The superior size/strength. The unstoppable one on one game. The classic superstar entering the league achilles heel (shooting). He's got all the markers, and with that shooting, with continued development of PG skills, he's got a clear path upward. Obvious room for improvement on numbers that are already borderline All Star at age 20.
 
A lot of people here have 'agendas' for certain individual players on this team -- that's where all these hostility amongst Kings Fans come from...

My stance is, lets not fight amongst ourselves...we all want every KING to have success, but lets not put any ONE kings' success over the team's success.

We are a TEAM, and I'm so happy that Everyone is having a part in our recent winning play!
I can say I don't have an agenda regarding either Rubio or Evans. I read too much Ailene before the draft and thought the Kings were obviously taking Rubio, so much that I was surprised when they picked Evans.

However, I got over it very quickly, considering it was Ailene hyping Rubio to being with, I should have known better.

I was a little worried the first couple of games because Evans seemed to struggle. Now that I've seen a lot more of him, I'm very excited to have him. He's got that "IT" factor. It's confidence, skills that look easy, unexpected shots at key times, making people around him better - all that.

Sure, it's a team and we're finally developing some good talent to go around him. And if he were surrounded by a bunch of Mateen Cleves we wouldn't be winning despite how good he is.

But I can't discount Evans contribution. He's pivotal and He's got all the makings of a Super Star in training.

I'm just happy he's here and hope he stays a long time.
 
I should add, if I had to give ONE person only the credit for the turnaround this season (and I realize we've only played 17 games), that ONE person is Paul Westphal.
 
And I thought this was a thread about Sergio... :D
He has been a great addition. Credit to GP for getting the right guys and credit to the Coach for allowing them to shine.

I actually prefer him to be our PG with Evans at the SG. But either way he's looking very good.
 

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There's been a lot of crap thrown around on this thread. Interesting since it was intended as a congratualtory thread. But I suspose that there's always someone that likes to pee on everyone else's parade. Anyway, let say that comparing what Evans is doing or has done, and how it relates to the team winning as a measuring stick of how good he is, just doesn't fly with me. Michael Jordan couldn't win until he had all the other pieces around him. Was he an average player before that? Garnett couldn't win at Minny. Did that make him less of a player? To point to a player and say he's just not that good because he couldn't get his team over the hump is ridiculous. If thats the measuring stick then Stockton and Malone aren't superstars either.

Evans: 35 MPG, 19.3 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 4.8 APG
Beno: 30 MPG, 13.9 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 3.9 APG

Those are the stats from this year. While Beno is playing well, I don't think the stats are equal. Right now Evans is at 19/5/4. That doesn't mean he'll continue it for the season, but it doesn't mean he won't.

Elgin Baylor
Oscar Robertson
Dave Bing
Grant Hill
LeBron James
Larry Bird
Allen Iverson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Jordan
Sidney Wicks
Earl Monroe
Ron Harper

These are the only players in NBA history that I could find that recorded 19 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists their rookie year. I got this from Basketball Reference.com and from Shamsports.com. If Evans is able to nudge the 4.8 assists up to 5 assists a game the air becomes even thinner.
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Michael Jordan
Oscar Robertson
Are the only players to accomplish that. We've only played 17 games and there's a long way to go, but so far, Evans is in rare company. To call that, just above average is ridiculous.
 
There's been a lot of crap thrown around on this thread. Interesting since it was intended as a congratualtory thread. But I suspose that there's always someone that likes to pee on everyone else's parade. Anyway, let say that comparing what Evans is doing or has done, and how it relates to the team winning as a measuring stick of how good he is, just doesn't fly with me. Michael Jordan couldn't win until he had all the other pieces around him. Was he an average player before that? Garnett couldn't win at Minny. Did that make him less of a player? To point to a player and say he's just not that good because he couldn't get his team over the hump is ridiculous. If thats the measuring stick then Stockton and Malone aren't superstars either.

Evans: 35 MPG, 19.3 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 4.8 APG
Beno: 30 MPG, 13.9 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 3.9 APG

Those are the stats from this year. While Beno is playing well, I don't think the stats are equal. Right now Evans is at 19/5/4. That doesn't mean he'll continue it for the season, but it doesn't mean he won't.

Elgin Baylor
Oscar Robertson
Dave Bing
Grant Hill
LeBron James
Larry Bird
Allen Iverson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Jordan
Sidney Wicks
Earl Monroe
Ron Harper

These are the only players in NBA history that I could find that recorded 19 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists their rookie year. I got this from Basketball Reference.com and from Shamsports.com. If Evans is able to nudge the 4.8 assists up to 5 assists a game the air becomes even thinner.
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Michael Jordan
Oscar Robertson
Are the only players to accomplish that. We've only played 17 games and there's a long way to go, but so far, Evans is in rare company. To call that, just above average is ridiculous.
I LOVE this stuff!! Great post. All this, plus its in the context of winning games.
 
There's been a lot of crap thrown around on this thread. Interesting since it was intended as a congratualtory thread. But I suspose that there's always someone that likes to pee on everyone else's parade. Anyway, let say that comparing what Evans is doing or has done, and how it relates to the team winning as a measuring stick of how good he is, just doesn't fly with me. Michael Jordan couldn't win until he had all the other pieces around him. Was he an average player before that? Garnett couldn't win at Minny. Did that make him less of a player? To point to a player and say he's just not that good because he couldn't get his team over the hump is ridiculous. If thats the measuring stick then Stockton and Malone aren't superstars either.

Evans: 35 MPG, 19.3 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 4.8 APG
Beno: 30 MPG, 13.9 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 3.9 APG

Those are the stats from this year. While Beno is playing well, I don't think the stats are equal. Right now Evans is at 19/5/4. That doesn't mean he'll continue it for the season, but it doesn't mean he won't.

Elgin Baylor
Oscar Robertson
Dave Bing
Grant Hill
LeBron James
Larry Bird
Allen Iverson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Jordan
Sidney Wicks
Earl Monroe
Ron Harper

These are the only players in NBA history that I could find that recorded 19 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists their rookie year. I got this from Basketball Reference.com and from Shamsports.com. If Evans is able to nudge the 4.8 assists up to 5 assists a game the air becomes even thinner.
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Michael Jordan
Oscar Robertson
Are the only players to accomplish that. We've only played 17 games and there's a long way to go, but so far, Evans is in rare company. To call that, just above average is ridiculous.
Good stuff bajaden
 
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There's been a lot of crap thrown around on this thread. Interesting since it was intended as a congratualtory thread. But I suspose that there's always someone that likes to pee on everyone else's parade. Anyway, let say that comparing what Evans is doing or has done, and how it relates to the team winning as a measuring stick of how good he is, just doesn't fly with me. Michael Jordan couldn't win until he had all the other pieces around him. Was he an average player before that? Garnett couldn't win at Minny. Did that make him less of a player? To point to a player and say he's just not that good because he couldn't get his team over the hump is ridiculous. If thats the measuring stick then Stockton and Malone aren't superstars either.

Evans: 35 MPG, 19.3 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 4.8 APG
Beno: 30 MPG, 13.9 PPG, 2.2 RPG, 3.9 APG

Those are the stats from this year. While Beno is playing well, I don't think the stats are equal. Right now Evans is at 19/5/4. That doesn't mean he'll continue it for the season, but it doesn't mean he won't.

Elgin Baylor
Oscar Robertson
Dave Bing
Grant Hill
LeBron James
Larry Bird
Allen Iverson
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
Michael Jordan
Sidney Wicks
Earl Monroe
Ron Harper

These are the only players in NBA history that I could find that recorded 19 points, 4 rebounds, and 4 assists their rookie year. I got this from Basketball Reference.com and from Shamsports.com. If Evans is able to nudge the 4.8 assists up to 5 assists a game the air becomes even thinner.
LeBron James
Grant Hill
Michael Jordan
Oscar Robertson
Are the only players to accomplish that. We've only played 17 games and there's a long way to go, but so far, Evans is in rare company. To call that, just above average is ridiculous.
You took a minute off from making me bust a gut to dropping this???


Great post, great job. You. Are. The. Man.
 
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