Denver needs a SF... what works with Kings/Nuggets?

[NoBonus]

The Omri discussion brought up the fact that Kleinza (spelling, I know) is gone for Denver and they need a backup SF... Guess what? The Kings have a stack of guys like that, but how would a trade with Denver look?

For Nocioni: I do not see this happening as they would have to part with Nene or J.R. Smith... they could do a three or four for one trade, but that seems far fetched as well.

For Garcia: This sceanrio would be similar to Nocioni... a three for one deal or J.R. Smith or a larger Nene deal.

For Donte Greene or Omri Casspi: They could trade Ty Lawson (rookie PG) or Balkman as part of a larger deal; but why trade a SF for a SF?

Ultimately, if the Nuggets decided they could trade away Nene (which seems nuts), the Kings could trade Hawes and Nocioni for him... but that would be a bad deal for Sacramento...

The only idea that even seems reasonable or interesting is for the Nuggets to trade Kenyon Martin for Nocioni and Kenny Thomas. But why would they trade their starting PF for a reserve SF and cap space?

Not sure there is a lot of potential there... the most potential I see is a Donte Greene for a resigned Samb or Johan Petro or Steven Hunter.

 

[Bricklayer]

They aren't going to give up Nene or Smith just to restore their backup SF position. Wouldn't want Smith anyway.

But depending on how they feel about their legitimate title chances, now might actually be a time when you could interest them in a classic win now vet for picks/prospects type deal.

 

[NoBonus]

They aren't going to give up Nene or Smith just to restore their backup SF position. Wouldn't want Smith anyway.

But depending on how they feel about their legitimate title chances, now might actually be a time when you could interest them in a classic win now vet for picks/prospects type deal.

The only problem is that they do not carry a lot of salary on their roster past the starters. You would likely have to include Birdman at the very minimum for Chapu or Garcia and I do not know why they would want Greene or Casspi if they are looking to win now.

 

[One and Done]

Not seeing a lot of trade potential with Denver. The Nuggets seem pretty set with their starting 5 and the Kings don't offer an upgrade at any position, save the 2. And at that point, a trade would not make sense.

In terms of playoff or fringe-playoff teams with "roster holes", I'd take a closer look at Philadelphia. They don't have a starting PG: Jrue Holiday isn't close to being ready and Royal Ivey can barely get it done off the bench. Who will be their primary distributor? Lou Williams? Iggy? Doubt Eddie Jordan will go for that. Maybe they get desperate/stupid and are willing to take on a veteran PG w/ a questionable contract...Beno for Kapono?

 

[Oprostaj]

they are in a crappy situation. that team does not have a true identity. they want to run but have no shooters to space the floor, and their prize acquisition is a lumbering albatross that needs to walk it up the floor and to slow the game down. what kind of PG do they need? A facilitator? a shooter?

 

[One and Done]

they are in a crappy situation. that team does not have a true identity. they want to run but have no shooters to space the floor, and their prize acquisition is a lumbering albatross that needs to walk it up the floor and to slow the game down. what kind of PG do they need? A facilitator? a shooter?

Well the big need for Philly is to get rid of Brand - he just doesn't gel with the lineup. But unless he proves himself, they'll be stuck.

Other than that, Phill needs someone to distribute the ball as well as outside shooting. They got 3-pt-only player Kapono for that - but when I say 3-pt only, that's all he brings to the table. Beno could be a sell to them - he likes to play half-court, he can distribute (although he's not great) and he can shoot it (although he's not great). The problem is his albatross of a contract - will they take it? Probably not. But then again, baffling moves happen yearly in the NBA, so keep your fingers crossed.

 

[MoneyMike916]

Of the final three roster spots, Warkentien said he was "hopeful" Carter would take up one spot and the Nuggets "will go and get another wing player" to replace Kleiza. One name floating around is that of veteran guard Wally Szczerbiak, who last played with Cleveland. He is an unrestricted free agent and would fill the need for a perimeter scorer off the bench.

"Of our remaining roster spots, etch this in stone," Warkentien said. "One of them will be a wing."

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_13033913

 

[kingsnation]

Not seeing a lot of trade potential with Denver. The Nuggets seem pretty set with their starting 5 and the Kings don't offer an upgrade at any position, save the 2. And at that point, a trade would not make sense.

In terms of playoff or fringe-playoff teams with "roster holes", I'd take a closer look at Philadelphia. They don't have a starting PG: Jrue Holiday isn't close to being ready and Royal Ivey can barely get it done off the bench. Who will be their primary distributor? Lou Williams? Iggy? Doubt Eddie Jordan will go for that. Maybe they get desperate/stupid and are willing to take on a veteran PG w/ a questionable contract...Beno for Kapono?

I think the 6ers might be willing to take their chances with a prospect like Holliday or a role player like Ivey than take on Beno who arguably isn't much better than either of those if he is at all (Not to mention the horrid contract.)

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Highly improbable.

 

[USNAVY15]

Dallas should be mentioned here because they are also in the SF market. They just picked up Marion to shore up the position. But if Josh Howard wasn't expected to be a bum this coming season why would they make that move for Marion? I stand to reason that Howard is expected by the Mavs to drag his feet all season in order to facilitate a trade or in order to be released after this season. Therefor, the Mavs are probably going to be very interested in a cheaper/hungrier version of Howard that could allow a Kidd/Terry/Marion/DIRK/Dampier lineup to be comfortable as starters without playing musical chairs like they would be doing with Howard. Denver doesn't really need a SF, they just need Carmelo and Nene to stay healthy all season. If they stay in good health, Denver should see the 2nd round at the very least. Dallas on the other hand, is not going to stay mum without a quality C and a quality SF in exchange for Howard; because Dallas isn't deadly enough on the defensive end of things, and Howard doesn't make you afraid to take it to the basket like Artest or ShaQ or KG. Basically, Dallas is going to be making moves, and they might even WANT kenny thomas TO PLAY of all things because their front line is one injury away from destroying their season.

 

[bajaden]

Not seeing a lot of trade potential with Denver. The Nuggets seem pretty set with their starting 5 and the Kings don't offer an upgrade at any position, save the 2. And at that point, a trade would not make sense.

In terms of playoff or fringe-playoff teams with "roster holes", I'd take a closer look at Philadelphia. They don't have a starting PG: Jrue Holiday isn't close to being ready and Royal Ivey can barely get it done off the bench. Who will be their primary distributor? Lou Williams? Iggy? Doubt Eddie Jordan will go for that. Maybe they get desperate/stupid and are willing to take on a veteran PG w/ a questionable contract...Beno for Kapono?

How about we trade Beno at $6,031,800.00 for Kapono at $6,212,960.00 and Jason Smith at $1,418,880.00. We absorb whatever the difference is that doesn't work in the trade figure. Philly saves $1,600,000.00 in salary this year, and they also get an experienced point guard. We get a good spot up three point shooter, and a young athletic 7 footer that missed all of last year with a torn ACL. He's been given a clean bill of health by the doctors and is suspossedly ready to go.

I liked Jason Smith coming out of college. He's athletic with good hops for a big man. He was a good rebounder and decent shot blocker at the college level.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Honestly, I wouldnt mind just giving Nocioni to them for free. We had no buisness trading for him in the first place. I havent looked at there roster, but if they have an expiring deal I would take it.

This type of deal may not work with the Nuggs, but If I were Geoff I would look into something like this if thats what it comes down too. We'll have a better Idea of what we have by the end of the season without Nocioni on this team.

 

[King Baller]

I looked at the Denver trade thing also. Since Klieza and Noc are similiar type players. But like most of you I came up with 0. The Nuggets are not parting with anyone the Kings would want.

The Wally Szerbiach story going around makes sense for the Nuggets. Wally can score and play a little D.

KB

 

[bajaden]

I looked at the Denver trade thing also. Since Klieza and Noc are similiar type players. But like most of you I came up with 0. The Nuggets are not parting with anyone the Kings would want.

The Wally Szerbiach story going around makes sense for the Nuggets. Wally can score and play a little D.

KB

With emphasis on the little....

 

[Chupacabra]

Wally Zoolander can flat out shoot. Who cares how much defense he plays?! He can pose with the best of them and he helps put ladies in the seats.

 

[AriesMar27]

though i would love to give away nocioni or garcia, the nuggets have nothing to give us in return.

 

[EatMoreChicken]

Denver just dumped Hunter to get under the luxury tax with a 1st round pick, they're not going pick anyone else's dead weight. Look for them to sign a someone at the vet minimum and have the league pay half the salary.

 

[Bricklayer]

Denver just dumped Hunter to get under the luxury tax with a 1st round pick, they're not going pick anyone else's dead weight. Look for them to sign a someone at the vet minimum and have the league pay half the salary.

As long as salaries match they aren't actually any worse off financially if they make a trade. Its just there salary structure which makes it difficult.