Brad Miller

#32
Brad himself has admitted that last season is one he would just as soon forget. The complications of the plantar fasciitis along with the emotional and mental stress of the premature birth of his daughter were tough enough. The added stress of a "coach" like Eric Musselman was horrendous and Brad took an awful lot of abuse.

I don't see any good that can come from "people admitting they are wrong on this board" type stuff. Let's just go forward, okay? This thread is traditionally to discuss the good stuff, not to get bogged down in old news and ancient history.

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Well, I was not looking for people to eat crow or doing any of the "nanner, nanner," stuff. I was honestly just wondering if people had changed their minds.

Either way, we may have had the best center in the NBA this week. We can't say that very often.
 
#35
Everyone knows how some players don't like playing in the All-Star activities - they'd rather rest a bit and have the time off. Maybe, to put it in Brad's vernacular, he was "playin' 'possum" until the votes were counted. ;) Now he's let loose the inner Thunder Hick!

Just kidding. Well done, big man!
Well, I wouldn't blame Brad. Last time he played in the All-Star game, he was injured and the team lost him for a few weeks. Ugh.

Great job, Brad! Way to go! :D
 

6th

Homer Fan Since 1985
#36
Brad has worked and played hard. I'll bet another All-Star appearance means nothing to him compared to the much needed and deserved rest he will get.

I have never...ever...wanted to trade Brad Miller. I kept quiet about that because I probably would have been laughed at. I still don't want him traded. I like him. I really like him. Besides, what would I do with my autographed Brad Miller hat if we traded him? :p
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#37
Brad has worked and played hard. I'll bet another All-Star appearance means nothing to him compared to the much needed and deserved rest he will get.

I have never...ever...wanted to trade Brad Miller. I kept quiet about that because I probably would have been laughed at. I still don't want him traded. I like him. I really like him. Besides, what would I do with my autographed Brad Miller hat if we traded him? :p
Same here. And trade him for what? I know the theory flying about but my version of rebuilding can be attained with one trade in the next few weeks or at the end of the year. Get a power forward and give up a swingman, most likely Artest. We need to take advantage of Brad while he can play.
 
#38
Is there anyone here, who, a year ago, was saying "Just you wait, a year from now he'll be pulling down 20 boards a game"?

If so, I would like to see a link to their post.

I never said or though of 20 rebounds, but I did say he'd be back to his all-star level numbers. 15/10/4.5 on 50/80 percentages. And I've had my signature the same for about a year now.
 
#39
I have never...ever...wanted to trade Brad Miller. I kept quiet about that because I probably would have been laughed at. I still don't want him traded. I like him. I really like him. Besides, what would I do with my autographed Brad Miller hat if we traded him? :p
I'm with you. I never wanted to trade Brad, he's a special player and after a awesome summer and different outlook in his life, he's showing us how great and valuable he really is.

Awesome job Brad. Keep it up.

"Brad Miller should be up for Most Improved Player of the Year," Kings coach Reggie Theus said. "I don't know why I'm not looking at him every night on ESPN."

"If Brad doesn't get Player of the Week, then I just have nothing else to say," said Martin, who had a team-high 26 points on 8-for-12 shooting. "The way he's been playing all week is just incredible."
 

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#40
Of course but ..... how many players with a big paycheck feel the need to lose weight, get in better shape, and improve their game? He could have dogged it until his contract ran out and proved everyone who thought our acquisition of him was stupid were correct. This was the general opinion in a few other cities.

I dare say what he has done is very rare in the NBA. Chris Kaman did a similar makeover last summer.
A guy dogs it for three years, then decides to earn his money, and now we the fans are supposed to laud his "comeback"? I guess the standards for judging NBA players are getting lower and lower and lower....
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#41
I guess the standards for judging NBA players are getting lower and lower and lower....
Hadn't you noticed or maybe you are not old enough? Players used to bust their asses for tens of thousands of dollars. Now, many of them bust their *** only when money is involved.
 
#44
I never said or though of 20 rebounds, but I did say he'd be back to his all-star level numbers. 15/10/4.5 on 50/80 percentages.
And, as for me, I don't remember most of us saying that he should be traded, either. His contract is such that when he's playing badly, there wouldn't be much chance of getting anything we'd want for him, and when he's playing really well, nobody wants to move him. Unless he is traded as an ender, I think he is the King most likely to retire in Sacramento.
 
#46
I really like Brad Miller's personality and enjoy rooting for him as a player, and it is nice to see him playing so well !!


So, of course, NOW i want to trade him. RIGHT NOW. when his stock is good. Brad Miller is a good player, and could make a really good contributionto a team that is both good, and structured properly. THe kings should be able to get real value for the old lug, and I don't see him as a longer term contributer (which is what we need HERE). Good luck, and thanks for all the fish.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#47
Once again, Doc brings the meat. And any DNA references = teh roq!

I'll be the first to admit that I am biased on the subject of Brad Miller, but there's another way to look at it: suppose you're among the apparent majority of Kings Fans that like Miller. Don't you think he deserves a chance to win a championship? We sure as hell aren't winning any time soon...
 
#50
I guess the standards for judging NBA players are getting lower and lower and lower....
Three years ago he was an All-Star. I guess standards for judging NBA players are not getting lower if people like you consider that to be 'dogging it'.

Miller's the type of player who will always be disregarded on fan websites because he doesn't have athleticism or 'potential'. Give me a guy like Miller, with touch and a basketballs IQ, over a limited role player like Chandler any day.
 
#51
I'm guessing Chandler didn't have to wash his own dishes after the Super Bowl though.

With what we're paying Brad Miller should be able to afford some freaking thing that should wash glass for you. Like an automated gizmo that you stick glasses and plates made of glass into and it removes dirt and particles and other unwanted debris by use of pressurized water and soap. I'm guessing this type of contraption would be unreliable and extremely experimental, at the very least ridiculously expensive, even for someone with a 8 figure salary, But even if something like this existed what would it be called? Automatic Glass Debris Purger? Mechanical Plate Cleanser? Dish Dirt Eradicator? I'm at a loss.
 
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#52
He should be traded.
Quote of the day lol.. :rolleyes:

It's hard enough to find a center who can pretty much score when we need him to, pass the ball like a PG, and hit open jumpers drawing their C out from the basket.

Give it another year and allow him to teach Hawes, and then we can talk about trading him. Brad has been awesome this year. Get rid of him now and we will be as bad as when we didn't have a PG.
 
#53
A real world example would be Robert Parish, a 7'1", 250 lb center. He played 21 seasons and was effective for about 17 of them (averaging 9.4 rebs/gm in his 17th season with the Celtics). Brad is in his 11th season, so hypothetically he has 6 more effective years left in him. Like someone else said, probably the 1st or 2nd hardest thing to find in the NBA is an effective big man.
Are you really trying to compare Brad Miller to Robert Parish? Please.
 
#54
I really like Brad Miller's personality and enjoy rooting for him as a player, and it is nice to see him playing so well !!


So, of course, NOW i want to trade him. RIGHT NOW. when his stock is good. Brad Miller is a good player, and could make a really good contributionto a team that is both good, and structured properly. THe kings should be able to get real value for the old lug, and I don't see him as a longer term contributer (which is what we need HERE). Good luck, and thanks for all the fish.
I am in agreement. Brads value is as high as it is going to get right now. Now would be the time to package him with Bibby or Artest.
 
#56
Quote of the day lol.. :rolleyes:

It's hard enough to find a center who can pretty much score when we need him to, pass the ball like a PG, and hit open jumpers drawing their C out from the basket.

Give it another year and allow him to teach Hawes, and then we can talk about trading him. Brad has been awesome this year. Get rid of him now and we will be as bad as when we didn't have a PG.
I have to agree with Gary on this. Plus we still have other players more worthy to be getting off the roster (KT) than Brad is. :D
 
#58
Are you really trying to compare Brad Miller to Robert Parish? Please.
Yes, both are 7 ft tall and over 250 lbs. Both are centers. I was comparing their physical statures and ability to excel at the position at later stages of their careers, not who the better player is/was.

Fact is other than Kaman, Ilgauskas, Yao and Howard he has held his own or outplayed every other center in the league.

Is there a better center we can trade for or draft in the position we are in, I don't think so. So why get rid of him. We could draft a 7'3" shot blocker in Thabeet if he falls far enough. Other than that you tell me who we can realistically get to replace him.