Brad Miller

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#1
Any questions?





















Congratulations Brad on some very impressive stats for your past three games!!! (Despite bricking the two FTs with 14 seconds left.) ;) That final rebound was HUGE!!!
 

piksi

Hall of Famer
#3
the first 20/20 was much more efficient and impressive.

Now that he has shown us the goods - there is no going back
 

Gary

All-Star
#4
Brad miller > Tyson Chandler
Brad Miller > Ben Wallace
Brad Miller > Emeka Okafor

Last three games against these three centers Brad Miller has put up 22.0ppg 18.3rpg 4.3apg 2.0bpg 1.7spg...

AMAZING STATS BRAD!! And against pretty decent centers to boot! :eek::D
 
#5
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
 

piksi

Hall of Famer
#6
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
well - You will have to prove it and even then - no one will care because in this line of work - "what have You done for me lately"
Does anyone really remember last season ?
 

Gary

All-Star
#8
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
you can look up my posts if you want, but I never really wanted to trade Brad.. Reason is because I knew last year he had weight issues which were due to plantar faciitis. Plus he is one of the best passing centers in the league if not the best, and the type of ball the Kings wanted to play Brad would have been VERY useful. Also with Hawes behind him for a couple years I wouldn't doubt Hawes would get some good training from the best passing center.
 
#9
Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
Is there anyone here, who, a year ago, was saying "Just you wait, a year from now he'll be pulling down 20 boards a game"?

If so, I would like to see a link to their post.
 
#10
I have a question.. Think he would have been picked for the ***-Star game if he had been putting up 20/10 numbers? West got in but a few were snubbed as well. I still can't believe that Kaman got snubbed. He did didn't he?
 
#11
well - You will have to prove it and even then - no one will care because in this line of work - "what have You done for me lately"
Does anyone really remember last season ?
I am not looking to prove anything really. I just wonder if there are people here that have changed their mind. It would be an unusual and remarkable event.

And yes, I do remember last season - like a nightmare. Those who do not remember have simply repressed the traumatic experience.
 

gunks

Hall of Famer
#12
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
MMMmmm...Crow.


Dont get me wrong, I still wouldnt mind Miller getting traded for the future's sake...But golly, has he thrashed my low expectations.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#13
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
Brad himself has admitted that last season is one he would just as soon forget. The complications of the plantar fasciitis along with the emotional and mental stress of the premature birth of his daughter were tough enough. The added stress of a "coach" like Eric Musselman was horrendous and Brad took an awful lot of abuse.

I don't see any good that can come from "people admitting they are wrong on this board" type stuff. Let's just go forward, okay? This thread is traditionally to discuss the good stuff, not to get bogged down in old news and ancient history.

:)
 

Warhawk

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#14
I have a question.. Think he would have been picked for the ***-Star game if he had been putting up 20/10 numbers? West got in but a few were snubbed as well. I still can't believe that Kaman got snubbed. He did didn't he?
Everyone knows how some players don't like playing in the All-Star activities - they'd rather rest a bit and have the time off. Maybe, to put it in Brad's vernacular, he was "playin' 'possum" until the votes were counted. ;) Now he's let loose the inner Thunder Hick!

Just kidding. Well done, big man!
 
#15
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
Brad is playing as well as or better than he ever has. Good for him.

Doesn't change the fact that the comments made about him based on last season's performance were absolutely true at the time they were made. Nor does it change the fact that he's still an aging player who is making way too much money for a team that should be rebuilding.
 
#17
Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game! Congrats Brad on a well played game!

:D:D:D
 
#18
Hardest thing to do in the NBA, personnel wise, is to come up with a superstar. Second-hardest thing to do is come up with a competent center. Kings are very fortunate to have Brad. His current numbers compare favorably to his all-star year numbers; it just so happens that this is an exceptional year for Western Conference centers (Yao, Kaman, Stoudamire, Chandler, Camby). What's really impressive is that he just looks like he wants to win (oh, and the blocked shots).
 
#20
Nor does it change the fact that he's still an aging player who is making way too much money
I think age is one of the few things with Brad you shouldn't be worrying about. He jumps as high and runs as fast at 31 now as he did when he was 21.

His main worries are staying in shape and injuries. This is what can and will lead to his decline, as the constant wear is inevitable. If he can stay focus, in shape and dodge the injury bug, I don't think he'll really decline as much as you might think.
 
#22
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
Oh heck yes I will admit it! I was harder on Brad than anybody I know (on this board and others) I thought he mailed in the last season and was stealing his salary. And I did not expect anything this year.

But crow is YUMMY he is playing so great I'm happy for him and happy for me because all of a sudden we have one of the BETTER centers in the league. Who ever woulda thunk???
 
#23
I think age is one of the few things with Brad you shouldn't be worrying about. He jumps as high and runs as fast at 31 now as he did when he was 21.

His main worries are staying in shape and injuries. This is what can and will lead to his decline, as the constant wear is inevitable. If he can stay focus, in shape and dodge the injury bug, I don't think he'll really decline as much as you might think.
A real world example would be Robert Parish, a 7'1", 250 lb center. He played 21 seasons and was effective for about 17 of them (averaging 9.4 rebs/gm in his 17th season with the Celtics). Brad is in his 11th season, so hypothetically he has 6 more effective years left in him. Like someone else said, probably the 1st or 2nd hardest thing to find in the NBA is an effective big man.
 
#24
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?

No i am still right. Brad pissed me off the last couple of seasons. He deserved all the criticism. the last couple of seasons He was terrible and did not care. He was out of shape and lazy on the court. We should of saw this years Brad the last two. It just makes me made about the last two.
 
#25
I think age is one of the few things with Brad you shouldn't be worrying about. He jumps as high and runs as fast at 31 now as he did when he was 21.

His main worries are staying in shape and injuries. This is what can and will lead to his decline, as the constant wear is inevitable. If he can stay focus, in shape and dodge the injury bug, I don't think he'll really decline as much as you might think.
Yeah wasn't Vlade effective till 50;), and he definately wasn't in shape either.
 

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#26
Actually, I do have a question.

There has been more than one year worth of posts stating how Brad was washed-up, should be traded and is worth only a fraction of what he is getting paid. People admitting that they are wrong on this board is about as common as the Cubs winning the pennant. So my question:

Is there anyone here willing to admit that they may have been wrong about Brad Miller?
Brad Miller has been on the downhill slide ever since he got the big contract and came to Sacto. The current propaganda is that last year was an abberation, that he had a serious foot problem, and that was the problem with his performance. What about the year before that? Remember those playoff games in which he got one or two rebounds a game? He was beyond pitiful. I am thrilled to death that Miller is playing well - I love seeing players play to their potential. But don't you see??? -- he's proving this year how woefully out of shape he's been these past few years, how unmotivated, how much he was into picking up a paycheck rather than picking up a rebound. So anybody who thought he was dogging it was absolutely correct.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#27
Brad Miller has been on the downhill slide ever since he got the big contract and came to Sacto. The current propaganda is that last year was an abberation, that he had a serious foot problem, and that was the problem with his performance. What about the year before that? Remember those playoff games in which he got one or two rebounds a game? He was beyond pitiful. I am thrilled to death that Miller is playing well - I love seeing players play to their potential. But don't you see??? -- he's proving this year how woefully out of shape he's been these past few years, how unmotivated, how much he was into picking up a paycheck rather than picking up a rebound. So anybody who thought he was dogging it was absolutely correct.
Of course but ..... how many players with a big paycheck feel the need to lose weight, get in better shape, and improve their game? He could have dogged it until his contract ran out and proved everyone who thought our acquisition of him was stupid were correct. This was the general opinion in a few other cities.

I dare say what he has done is very rare in the NBA. Chris Kaman did a similar makeover last summer.
 
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rainmaker

Hall of Famer
#30
Brad Miller has the type of game that will allow him to be a top 5-8 center for another 5 yrs if he remains in top physical condition. We might need that with our starting pf getting 2 rebs. Would Mikki Moore please be a little more consistent.