Scuffle between SAR and KT?

#1
I was listening to the Grant show and they were discussing a scuffle between SAR and KT. Apperently NO punches were thrown at each other.
 
#2
Wow, the competition is gettin fierce, we all know SAR thinks he should start, and he might be gettin frustrated during the battle for that spot, i wonder if its gonna hurt the chances of whoever started it on getting that position.
 
#5
If no punches were thrown whats the big deal? obviously both players want to start so it's gonna be a little psysical during practice.
 

VF21

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#11
What happened afterwards?
I'm guessing they separated and went their separate ways.

Stuff like this happens occasionally. It's not a big deal necessarily. If we don't hear about it on the nightly news - and it's not in the Bee in the morning - it was probably no big deal. I'm a little surprised Grant would even mention it. That's rather suspect.
 
#12
What happened afterwards?

I am not so sure as I tuned to the station half way into the conversation. Both Shareef and KT insisted that it was nothing. And Artest was saying something like "everyone should see or be in a fight once a month.. something like that.." Its hard to follow what he tries to imply sometimes..:rolleyes:
 

Warhawk

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#13
I am not so sure as I tuned to the station half way into the conversation. Both Shareef and KT insisted that it was nothing. And Artest was saying something like "everyone should see or be in a fight once a month.. something like that.." Its hard to follow what he tries to imply sometimes..:rolleyes:
Ron-Ron just kills me sometimes.



No, wait, maybe I should just say he cracks me up. ;)
 

VF21

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#14
I am not so sure as I tuned to the station half way into the conversation. Both Shareef and KT insisted that it was nothing. And Artest was saying something like "everyone should see or be in a fight once a month.. something like that.." Its hard to follow what he tries to imply sometimes..:rolleyes:
So SAR and Kenny and Ron were all on Grant's show?
 

Bricklayer

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#15
Ron-Ron just kills me sometimes.



No, wait, maybe I should just say he cracks me up. ;)

Not much better. ;)

As for the scuffle...well, couple ways to look at it.
1) Often these things really are nothing and are even a good sign of competitiveness and toughness; but
2) not only are Kenny and SAR both convinced they should start, they have actually been in a fight in the past before their Kings days. To me, that sounds like two guys who may legitimately not like each other very much. Not that Kenny isn't very lovable. :rolleyes:
 
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#20
so, no one wanted a 6'7 under-sized pf who rebounds and has a bad attitude?
I mean who can resist his droopy eyes? HIs undenying belief to start?

IM surprised Petrie couldnt find any suitors over the offseason.
 
#22
There you go VF news in the Bee..:p

http://www.sacbee.com/100/story/36497.html

Kings notes: Thomas, Abdur-Rahim have run-in at practice


Eric Musselman has insisted on nonstop activity in every drill and scrimmage this training camp.
The Kings' new coach said he has received maximum effort, including some spillover emotion Monday afternoon between two power forwards fighting -- almost literally -- for the starting job.
Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim nearly traded blows at the end of a scrimmage, though cooler heads quickly prevailed. No one made much of it, offering reminders that spirited competition is common in camp.
They've been battling it out, two guys competing," Musselman said, betraying no concern about the chest-bumping. "You coach in the CBA long enough ... that was nothing."
If it were a pay-per-view bout, the public would have howled to get its money back. The veterans have had run-ins before, including barking at each other at the end of a regular-season game last season. Both players downplayed it then.
Thomas said Monday's incident was merely "a heat-of-the-moment" thing.
"I'm very competitive, and I'm just playing hard," he said. "We're all trying to establish ourselves. It ain't nothing personal."
Abdur-Rahim was not present to comment.
Ron Artest, who admitted getting into his fair share of practice scrums over the years, said during a light moment that Monday's tussle was "weak."
"You gotta do some of that in practice every once in a while," Artest said of player dust-ups. "Otherwise, you're not going hard enough."
Bibby the stopper? -- Mike Bibby has stepped up his defense since the start of camp, and everyone is taking notice.
"He's done a really good job," Musselman said. "He's shown a willingness to pick up the ball earlier in the backcourt defensively. We want to continue to reinforce that he has the ability to do that, to remind him. He's been doing it all camp."
Reserve guard Jason Hart said Bibby looks leaner and quicker. The Kings' veteran floor leader shed 15 pounds in the offseason.
"Mike Bibby really looks good, really good," Hart said. "He looks like the high school Mike -- thin, slim, quicker. He used to be top-heavy. And he liked to look big in the chest and all."
Hart, a veteran of five NBA seasons, said bulk and power aren't the key to this sport.
"Look at Thomas," Hart said. "He's not too defined muscle-wise, but he's strong as an ox, and he's quick."
Big on Miller -- At Golden State, Musselman had a pretty fair big-man shooter in Troy Murphy. But Musselman said he believes he has a unique big-man talent with the Kings in Brad Miller.
Musselman reminds himself of that every time he sees his 7-foot center fire an assist or hit an 18-footer or a three-pointer.
"He's got guard-shooting ability and guard-passing ability," Musselman said. "He's special because of his size and shooting. Brad's passing is off the charts. I would say he's the best passing center in the NBA."
Practice what they preach -- During his two seasons coaching the Warriors, Musselman often engaged in pickup games with his coaching staff.
Now that the two-a-days are over, he's ready to round up the crew again. Normally, that would mean a lot of pulled muscles and creaky joints for veteran staffs. But the Kings' coaching unit is a youthful lot that works out in the weight room and keeps the flab at bay.
"We're all in shape," Musselman said, grinning. "We'd better be the best-conditioned staff in the league."
 
#23
pics of both at this years media day.... hmmm... pretty much sums up who had both more playing time and the starting job towards the end of last year.. :)



 

CruzDude

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#25
Last year in a practice those two had a "scuffle" or three and it was evident they did not like each other. But as VF21 said, KT's "team chemistry ship" may have sailed long ago.

But I agree with consensus that it was no big deal.
 
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Spike

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#26
You have two players, with a history of 'general dislike for each other' fighting for a starting spot. Of course there will be a donneybrook, a fisticuffs, a melee, etc. It's good to see that both players want that spot.

If it were me, I'd start SAR, but that's not the issue.
 
#27
Bet its pretty awkward having to work with someone you scrapped with before. They will never "like" each other and forget about what happened...why can't we trade one of the two for better chemistry?
 
#28
Anyone who has ever played sports at a highly competitive level knows this goes on ALL THE TIME. I played football in college and quite frankly it's a daily occurence and is just part of being a competitor. Think nothing of it.
 
#29
It's all good. Kenny plays well when he has something to prove. SAR plays well when someone hurts his pride enough to jolt him out of his softness. For all we know, it may work out well for the team.