Joe Maloof drops a "bombshell" at the press conference today....

#1
http://news10.net/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=19837


Redevelopment of Sacramento's downtown railyards is a major selling point in the campaign to raise the local sales tax. But Kings owner Joe Maloof is preparing voters for another possibility.

At a news conference kicking off the campaign for Measures Q and R, a series of speakers spoke of the importance of a new arena to the railyards development. Proponents say a downtown arena would spur more than $5 billion in new development. Measure R would raise the county's sales tax by a quarter-percent. Measure Q would ask voters to endorse a new arena, presumably in the railyards.

But when Joe Maloof took to the podium, he suggested the possibility that the arena could be built elsewhere even if the sales tax measures are adopted.

Reading from a prepared statement, Maloof seemed to be indicating the negotiations to build in the railyards are not going well.

Joe Maloof's statement:

"We share the vision that everyone here has. The future would be fantastic to have a new arena downtown to revitalize the railyards. But it isn't going to be easy. The site has been vacant for decades because it's such a difficult site to develop. There are a lot of moving parts: The railroad, the developer, the cleanup, and all the work the city and county have got to get done. We believe it can happen, we believe an arena can help make it happen, but we want to make sure the people are aware that we will do our best. If for some reason it can't happen at this site, we may have to consider alternative locations in Sacramento. And we will do that. Our commitment will always be the same: To give our fans the best experience, and to give Sacramento our best effort. Thank you." (To watch Maloof read the statement, click on the video link above)

Maloof left the news conference quickly after his statement. Others were clearly stunned by what he said.

Although the agreement between the Kings and the city and county of Sacramento drafted August 2 allows the possibility the arena could be built elsewhere, it is widely seen as a "worst case" scenario.

Insiders speculate Maloof may be sending a thinly veiled message to the developer of the railyards to improve the negotiating position. But all those connected with the campaign told News10 privately they were very disappointed over the timing and tone of the remarks.
 
#2
Wow! I am really not sure what is going on with Joe. He was also on Grant and Mike's show about two weeks ago. Grant and Mike offered-up a number of softball questions to Joe and he really did not do a great job of answering the questions then either.....and now this. :confused:
 
#3
We were at that press conference. I would hardly classify it as a 'bombshell'. It was like he was trying to be supportive and re-state the Maloof family's commitment to stayng in Sacramento, even if the measure failed and they had to do something else. Not a bad message, in and of itself, and probably prompted by recent criticism and/or rumors of them wanting to move the team. I just took it as not really the right time to say it. Good business men they may be, politicians, they are not.
Honestly, that's the only thing they came away from that press conference with? There sure was a lot more to it than that.
 
#4
The wording is already in the agreement that another site could be chosen if it's decided that the railyard site was too difficult to build. So why bring this point up now? Lets get the measures passed first. You can negotiate with the developer later.
 
#5
I just listened to Joe on 1140 and he explained that he didn't want any of the voters being under the impression that downtown is the only option. IMO, it's nice that he thinks full disclosure is a good idea - but I think he just handed the anti-arena supporters a big boost. This will be spun as the Maloofs not even trusting the city-county team. This was a bad move.
 

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#6
Old news. This possibility was mentioned a long time ago if for some reason the Railyards site fell through.

As of right now, that is the preferred site and everyone is shooting to have it there. If the deal falls through, it is wise to have backup locations available for use as well.
 

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#7
I think he just handed the anti-arena supporters a big boost. This will be spun as the Maloofs not even trusting the city-county team. This was a bad move.
I disagree. I think it would look worse later if for some reason the site was moved and the topic HADN'T been broached before. THAT would be a bad move. Saying upfront that they want it in the railyards and there are backup locations being scouted if it doesn't work out shows their seriousness in getting an arena built in Sacramento.
 
#8
The timing really is bad. We 1st got this on the November ballot in the nick of time and are trying to sell a 1/4% tax increase in a state where is it hard enough to live with all the expenses and now we find out that the stadium might not even be in the railyard where the rest of the construction is slated to be at. Cannot we wait till after the bill goes through to maybe reveal the bad news that that stadium will be built in Sacramento, but not specifically in the old Railyard due to complications, etc? We need to keep a unified and strong voice to get this measure passed and cannot give a weak image, speak confidently, or don't speak alone...let alone at this time in the whole process.
 
#9
They did disclose that already. Why make the statement today? Here we are not even discussing the rest of the press conference. It's already done some harm. I can promise you that Jones and Tamayo will use this statement and spin this in a way that will sway voters away. The goal is to get these measures passed - not highlight the weaker points of your own agreement.
 

Bricklayer

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#10
Well that sounds like a step back into the nebulous "we have no plan" crap that is on t he brink of losing Sacto its only pro sports franchise. Grow some balls -- develop a plan, believe in it, and back it all the way + maybe just maybe people might start believing in it too. Continue to equivocate and waver and draw attention to 2457 contingencies and it doesn't give anybody anything real to latch onto.
 

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#11
We were at that press conference. I would hardly classify it as a 'bombshell'. It was like he was trying to be supportive and re-state the Maloof family's commitment to stayng in Sacramento, even if the measure failed and they had to do something else. Not a bad message, in and of itself, and probably prompted by recent criticism and/or rumors of them wanting to move the team. I just took it as not really the right time to say it. Good business men they may be, politicians, they are not.
Honestly, that's the only thing they came away from that press conference with? There sure was a lot more to it than that.
Since you were there, KG, and heard it first-hand, I'm going to give more credence to your take than that of some of the local talking heads, who seem to want to jump on anything Joe or Gavin says and find a way to make it controversial or news-worthy.

You mentioned that they made a nice presentation, which included plans for hotels, a riverwalk, the retention and renovation of those great old brick buildings, etc. It's a shame the media couldn't find a way to talk about any of that.
 
#13
Holy crap, what the HELL was Joe Maloof doing?? The timing of this was WAYYY off...I shutter to think what Graswich puts in his next column...and I say again...WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT!! Wow.
 
#14
I just listened to Joe on 1140 and he explained that he didn't want any of the voters being under the impression that downtown is the only option. IMO, it's nice that he thinks full disclosure is a good idea - but I think he just handed the anti-arena supporters a big boost. This will be spun as the Maloofs not even trusting the city-county team. This was a bad move.
Well DUH!! This was just stupid, IMO. Graswich, Tamayo and Dave Jones are salivating as we speak. Oh yeah, and the 'milk lady', too. Wow, just wow...
 
#15
While I applaud Joe for his honesty in wanting to make sure folks understood the situation, the timing of his comment could not have been worse. Just awful to cast any type of doubts in voters' heads on the day you kick off the PR campaign.

Now, could it be that the PR team and Joe are more politically astute than some here (and I) are giving them credit for? Could the RR or developer behind the scenes be pushing for a different, more lucrative deal, since one is not yet consummated, or an unacceptable new schedule, feeling they had the upper hand at this point? Were Joe's comments pre-screened by the PR team (and intended to squeeze the other land deal parties), or did the PR team fail to do their job in reviewing and assuring that the messages delivered by all today were consistent and "promotional"?

We don't know.

But even if Joe's speech was a political ploy to send a clear signal to the land owner and/or developer that they can't push the arena team around at this critical time, there was definitely a better time to do that. Not at the Yes on Q & R public kickoff session.

It was a royal mess-up.

However, will it make a huge impact? I say some but not much. As JB says, it gives a little more fodder for the anti-crowd to use in coming weeks.
 

VF21

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#16
I think you guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill. In fact, I'm hearing more "panic" from the proponents than glee from the opponents.

The first choice is, of course, the railyards. But what Maloof was saying - or attempting to - was that if, FOR SOME REASON, that couldn't be done, they weren't going to just pull up stakes and leave.

Sorry, but I refuse to get all twisted up about it.
 
#17
well, I'm with ya on this VF...but why say something like this at a rally...let alone the FIRST rally?? Am I the only one that thinks it was kinda weird??
 

Bricklayer

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#18
I think you guys are making a mountain out of a mole hill. In fact, I'm hearing more "panic" from the proponents than glee from the opponents.

The first choice is, of course, the railyards. But what Maloof was saying - or attempting to - was that if, FOR SOME REASON, that couldn't be done, they weren't going to just pull up stakes and leave.

Sorry, but I refuse to get all twisted up about it.
The problem is that its irrelevant what he was trying to say -- politics (and this is politics now) is all about perception and message. In real life there are contingencies upon contingencies (at least if you're smart). But when you're trying to steer a debate and mobilize a voter base, that sort of equivocation really has no place and can only muddle what needs to be, and finally has been for a while, clear.
 
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#19
Well, the truly 'bad' part of what he said is that it has detracted so much from everything else that went on. It was actually interesting and standing there actually IN the railyards, with the concept designs in place, you could really visualize what they want to do there. From the restoration of the antique brick buildings, to the Arena, to the walk-ways and cafe's. The shade (I was big on the shade, since it was HOT and there wasn't much:D ) trees. The river walk portion of it, the hotels etc. and where they would all go. I have, of course, seen the concept designs, but now I know WHERE each piece fits in, and placing each piece in your minds eye over the reality that is currently the railyards was exciting. It really would be something to see, something for our city to be proud of.
 
#20
Since you were there, KG, and heard it first-hand, I'm going to give more credence to your take than that of some of the local talking heads, who seem to want to jump on anything Joe or Gavin says and find a way to make it controversial or news-worthy.

You mentioned that they made a nice presentation, which included plans for hotels, a riverwalk, the retention and renovation of those great old brick buildings, etc. It's a shame the media couldn't find a way to talk about any of that.
Do you know if any presentations or renderings are published anywhere?
 

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I don't know but I hope they will be. From what KG said, it was AWESOME. Maybe if we ask nicely, she'll fill in some of the details the local media just seemed to completely gloss over in their zeal to take one little comment by Joe and blow it up out of all conceivably proportion.

Kingsgurl? How about it?
 
#25
The big problem is the clause in that agreement they layed out. It lets them back out pretty much for any reason, the county and the Maloofs. Location being one of the reasons cited.

IMO I don't think what Joe said was a big deal. Politics sure, bad timing maybe/maybe not. I can see both sides of this. Not sure I understand why he would say that and put any doubt in the voters heads. Say you have a voter that may be on the fence, wants the kings to stay and the idea of a nice downtown appeals to him. Deciding vote... this just took away that vote.

If your an opponent I think its easier to now say that raising the taxes to develop downtown really doesn't make sense if we are not going to develop downtown.

Joe knew what he was saying and knew what affect it would have... Take that to mean what you want.

Over / Under prediction.. Kings gone within 2 years.
 
#26
By nature, I'm a pessimist. However, I keep trying to fan a little spark of hope in my myself that this might happen. Quit blowing it out! ;)
 
#27
And just like that, the fight for a new arena is over:

http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/22752.html

Joe Maloof's comments at the kickoff press conference were discouraging, but offered one insight: The negotiations were not going well.

I know there will be much disappointment around town, and especially around here. I sincerely think this was a flawed deal from the get-go.

I also think it's over.

I am very sorry.
 
#28
Well fine, we should build a new arena there whether they want one or not. We'll get some team if the Kings leave as long as we build a new arena, you know what I'm sayin?

Edit: You should probably make a topic about it btw...
 
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#29
Uhhhh....a new arena does not guarantee a replacement team. There are cities with existing arenas right now already wanting a team. Then you'd have to have owners who want to locate a team here.
 
#30
Yeah, it's not that easy to just get a team to move here and even harder to get an expansion team. Sacramento is for the Kings and the Kings alone.