Potential Free agent/trade/sign tracker
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But thinking through it a little bit, I actually don't think it's worth the shot. Huerter is like THE piece we have to move around for another rotation player who can actually be impactful. Once you deal him, you're out of money (literally) to go make another move unless you dip into your core.
I don't think a Huerter trade has to be a perfect piece or anything, but when you trade him, it better be for a rotation player you know can help you. Not a speculative add and a prayer. Pat Williams is sort of that same example, but at least in his best case scenarios, he's the exact archetype we want. Kuzma just...isnt
I don't think a Huerter trade has to be a perfect piece or anything, but when you trade him, it better be for a rotation player you know can help you. Not a speculative add and a prayer. Pat Williams is sort of that same example, but at least in his best case scenarios, he's the exact archetype we want. Kuzma just...isnt
If Kuzma signed up for the role he played on the Lakers, he could add a ton to the team. He’s a good passer and finisher, and can be a good defender and rebounder when motivated. I agree with the comments if we got the current version of Kuzma.
In my view, if we can get Kuzma for Huerter and Colby Jones - the Kings would be getting better. They are so thin at the forward spot now. But I don’t know what other options are that we’d be passing on (if any).
In my view, if we can get Kuzma for Huerter and Colby Jones - the Kings would be getting better. They are so thin at the forward spot now. But I don’t know what other options are that we’d be passing on (if any).
Patrick Williams would be the low risk, high reward player we can try to take a swing in a trade of Huerter and a couple of 2nd rounders.
The problem is, Patrick Williams isn't that player yet. However, if Patrick Williams can at least be serviceable on offense while playing good defense and continue to develop, this is the type of trade that can make Monte look really smart in a couple of years.
The problem is, Patrick Williams isn't that player yet. However, if Patrick Williams can at least be serviceable on offense while playing good defense and continue to develop, this is the type of trade that can make Monte look really smart in a couple of years.
Pat Williams makes too much Monte always talked about flexibility trading for a guy and wishing he gets better with that contract doesn’t fit what he says
Robert Williams should be a higher priority than Pat he can change our defense even with low minutes 14-20. He’s getting the start vs Orlando tonight as well.
Maybe you send Portland a first to get Williams/Thybull and have a bench group of Ellis, Thybull, Lyle’s, and Timelord
Robert Williams should be a higher priority than Pat he can change our defense even with low minutes 14-20. He’s getting the start vs Orlando tonight as well.
Maybe you send Portland a first to get Williams/Thybull and have a bench group of Ellis, Thybull, Lyle’s, and Timelord
Kyle Kuzma would be a terrible fit on this Kings team and any winning basketball team. “Scores points” in an inefficient manner yes, precisely what this team doesn’t need.
Broken record but Valincunis is in a similar mold - even though he scores points in efficient manner. They don’t need a wing or big scorer, they need defensive upgrades to complement the 4-5 scorers on the roster if they’re keen on making a trade or at least an offensive upgrade without sacrificing defensive versatility/effectiveness (Collins for example)
Broken record but Valincunis is in a similar mold - even though he scores points in efficient manner. They don’t need a wing or big scorer, they need defensive upgrades to complement the 4-5 scorers on the roster if they’re keen on making a trade or at least an offensive upgrade without sacrificing defensive versatility/effectiveness (Collins for example)
I’ve been asking that question for a long time.
Seems Monte would be happy to move him but not willing to attach enough of anything that makes it attractive to other teams. It’s a shame, he’s young but his best skill is broken and he’s not an expiring, so yeah I’m unfortunately having a hard time figuring best approach to include him to improve this team.
Maybe a Pat Williams trade scenario where two teams with players that may be best suited elsewhere is the answer. I just wonder if Williams is another Josh Jackson story, high draft pick oozing with potential that never pans out.
Seems Monte would be happy to move him but not willing to attach enough of anything that makes it attractive to other teams. It’s a shame, he’s young but his best skill is broken and he’s not an expiring, so yeah I’m unfortunately having a hard time figuring best approach to include him to improve this team.
Maybe a Pat Williams trade scenario where two teams with players that may be best suited elsewhere is the answer. I just wonder if Williams is another Josh Jackson story, high draft pick oozing with potential that never pans out.
I’ve said it before on here but Alex Len is a better fit for this team than Valanciunas. Jonas cannot move defensively at all, at all. I don’t understand the fascination with him on this team.
Kings have enough scorers, they need that backup 5 to be a defensive big or at least a spacers to open up lanes for guys. Len seems to be 100% paired lately with the combo of Lyles, DeRozan, Fox, & Ellis/Carter (been a constant sub pattern all year to take DeRozan & Fox out early to sub later on in 1st back in) so Jonas’ post up scoring is not needed at all in that lineup. In fact DeRozan’s man will just sag off & it would be neutralized in theory. Jonas won’t be able to keep up with Kings pace. They need a rim protector, guy with size that at least moves decently. Len is much better in that regard than Jonas.Or a spacer like John Collins that can elevate the offense while at least moving respectably enough on D’.
Can someone answer in actual basketball terms / skill set what Jonas will provide with that grouping I just mentioned? Offensively or defensively?
Kings have enough scorers, they need that backup 5 to be a defensive big or at least a spacers to open up lanes for guys. Len seems to be 100% paired lately with the combo of Lyles, DeRozan, Fox, & Ellis/Carter (been a constant sub pattern all year to take DeRozan & Fox out early to sub later on in 1st back in) so Jonas’ post up scoring is not needed at all in that lineup. In fact DeRozan’s man will just sag off & it would be neutralized in theory. Jonas won’t be able to keep up with Kings pace. They need a rim protector, guy with size that at least moves decently. Len is much better in that regard than Jonas.Or a spacer like John Collins that can elevate the offense while at least moving respectably enough on D’.
Can someone answer in actual basketball terms / skill set what Jonas will provide with that grouping I just mentioned? Offensively or defensively?
I agree, defensively Jonas would have to get into shape really quickly to not be a total liability. He's in vacation mode and looks to be about 10-15 pounds too heavy. The thing that Jonas would add actually could help a lot come playoff time and that's post scoring. The drastic difference come playoff time last season more than almost anything was PACE. Teams in the regular season are routinely breezing past the 100's but come playoff last season time the highest pace team was like 96. Having a legit option down low would help slow the game down and give the Kings someone that even now per 36 is scoring around 21 ppg.
He's a better scorer, he's a better passer, he's a better shooter, he's a better rebounder. He's played more minutes this season than Len has the last 3 years. All of those things, to me, up the talent level and skill level of our back-up unit and make it stronger to actually survive Domas being on the bench. If Domas did get hurt, you'd have an actual replacement to soak up 25+ MPG.