[Game] 21/82: Kings vs. Spurs 01 DEC 2024, 6pm PT/9pm ET
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We have almost double their points in the paint (58 vs 32) but have more fouls against and the same number of free throws. SA getting into the bonus within minutes of starting the 4th on cheap calls is bogus.
How can we - again - give up 69 points from 3 on 50% three point shooting and expect to win? Defend the three.
31 assists and 11 turnovers, with a contribution from almost everyone who played is as good as you can hope for on offence. Giving up 30+ point quarters again and again and again is Walton era junk.
How can we - again - give up 69 points from 3 on 50% three point shooting and expect to win? Defend the three.
31 assists and 11 turnovers, with a contribution from almost everyone who played is as good as you can hope for on offence. Giving up 30+ point quarters again and again and again is Walton era junk.
Nah this is entirely a scheme thing/defensive communication thing.
Last year, we had Jordi calling out switches and coverages on defense. This year, Luke was supposed to pick up that role and he just hasn’t had the same juice. The good news is that you literally have one of the best defenders of this century/great communicator guy coaching on the bench right next to him but I dunno if Mike wants to upset the apple cart (Luke is De’Aaron’s guy through and through) at this point.
Last year, we had Jordi calling out switches and coverages on defense. This year, Luke was supposed to pick up that role and he just hasn’t had the same juice. The good news is that you literally have one of the best defenders of this century/great communicator guy coaching on the bench right next to him but I dunno if Mike wants to upset the apple cart (Luke is De’Aaron’s guy through and through) at this point.
Yeah, this sucks.
I'm quickly looking at this as we need to maybe start thinking about tearing this down and being "early" on a rebuild rather than waiting around for another 1 year and a half of misery.
The team that started 8-6 and like 7th in ORtg, 13th in DRtg is gone. You get maybe one great quarter a game and it's just a slow bleed the rest of the game.
I'm quickly looking at this as we need to maybe start thinking about tearing this down and being "early" on a rebuild rather than waiting around for another 1 year and a half of misery.
The team that started 8-6 and like 7th in ORtg, 13th in DRtg is gone. You get maybe one great quarter a game and it's just a slow bleed the rest of the game.
Again, I'm way too stupid to know how to actually scheme this. But how are our coaches just going back, watching film, looking at the numbers and seeing yet another historic 3pt night against us and just not changing anything? There was a distinct play where Keegan went to tag the driver and left the 3pt shooter wide open. And it just happens over and over.
There's still time. They should get at least a season to see what's what. By the end of the year all those things will be clearer. I'm sure this is partly why Monte wasn't all in on dumping every pick he'll have till the end of time like some people want. Monte's kind of doing what Petrie did with the re-tooling in the mid 2000's and a GM better keep a back door in his back pocket. This time hopefully Monte doesn't hang on with a death grip like Petrie did though and commits to a rebuild if need be.
Would it even matter? If the Kings abandon the paint to defend the 3pt line they're still going to lose, just in a different way. In order to adjust the defense they need more than just a change in scheme, they need longer defenders who can help off the ball while staying close enough to their man to close out. They need a defensive presence in the post that guards will think twice about trying to score on if they do turn the corner.
I think it took balls for the Kings to drive right into the paint again and again with the leading shotblocker in the league on the other side. That's what they were afraid to do in the last Spurs match up and it cost them. This time it was actually working until Tony Brothers had enough and took matters into his own hands.
What's more, I don't think this Kings team is capable of beating this Spurs team in a shootout. If that's what Kings fans want to see I think you're watching the wrong team.
I think it took balls for the Kings to drive right into the paint again and again with the leading shotblocker in the league on the other side. That's what they were afraid to do in the last Spurs match up and it cost them. This time it was actually working until Tony Brothers had enough and took matters into his own hands.
What's more, I don't think this Kings team is capable of beating this Spurs team in a shootout. If that's what Kings fans want to see I think you're watching the wrong team.
I played video games and forgot this was happening. I'm glad. But ok, why do the refs hate us? Did the players do something? Vivek? Is Silver demanding this?
The 3pt defense has been consistently awful and maybe that is something Carter can help fix but the reffing has gone from extremely questionable in the past to just flat out rigged.
The 3pt defense has been consistently awful and maybe that is something Carter can help fix but the reffing has gone from extremely questionable in the past to just flat out rigged.
to me the rebuild if there is one will be trading Fox for a young player or two and a couple picks. Say Tari Eason, Cam whitmore and a pick or two. Kings would still be super competitive without totally tearing things down to the studs. I’m not ready for that though, the thought makes me sick. Can’t be bad for 16 years and then tear it down to the studs after 2 seasons. Ugh
Definitely has to be an overreaction to helping Domas at the rim. I get why Brown was overboard with it tonight considering the paint points last game, but he's got to realize that the best defense is strong man to man even if he doesn't have strong man to man defenders outside of a few players. Prior to CP3 getting that big 3 as Domas cheated over off that switch (NEVER cheat over on a switch because what's the point of switching?), Domas came up, slid his feet, and trailed Paul into help on one key play. I still think Domas has potential as a mobile pressure big. If not, he's going to be a liability. It is what it is.
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