NFL 2024-2025 Thread

Tetsujin

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This sorta feels like a repeat of the year where Jimmy G had to lead a random twenty point comeback in the last game of the season against the eventual champions just to get the Niners into the postseason. Pretty sure we had a game where the Niners went kickerless that season too
 

Kingz19

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Niners aren’t getting it done in the red zone. All season long. Some of that is on Brock. Very shoddy work in the second half.

Mason blew it. He’s obviously been very good but a fumble and matador blocking basically sold the game.

Defense is the most mediocre since the team became good in 2019. Discounting the completely lost 2020 season..which this season feels like it’s heading.

Secondary still sucks. It’s always sucked through this entire window and nobody seems to want to do anything about it. Ineffective pressure. Terrible tackling.

Help isn’t really on the way either. We don’t know when CMC is coming back. His injuries sound pretty serious and indefinite to me. When he does come back I don’t think it’s instant fireworks if we’re talking about both Achilles and missing half the season.

We don’t know when Greenlaw comes back but same…Who knows how long it will take him to get back in the swing of things or even if he comes back the same at all. Team is missing him big time.

And worst of all, the team has been kinda boring. They haven’t been fun to watch. Even last week my eyes were glazing over watching them cruise to victory against NE because they simply weren’t very impressive.

I don’t know if the window is shut, but it’s shutting and it’s mainly because the defense seems far away from the dominant group many of us were counting on but aren’t dominant
 
Yeah, team just isn't it. I think we probably still are a playoff team? But we certainly aren't a world-beater squad that's a NFC favorite.

This is also precisely why you go pay the QB. So you don't have to worry about fall-off from a pile of overpriced vets not performing up to standard. Pay Brock and start over.
 
Yeah, team just isn't it. I think we probably still are a playoff team? But we certainly aren't a world-beater squad that's a NFC favorite.

This is also precisely why you go pay the QB. So you don't have to worry about fall-off from a pile of overpriced vets not performing up to standard. Pay Brock and start over.
This team has some issues. Juice out there contributing nothing. Jennings gets 4 targets. Brock holding the ball way too long and running around in circles. His selling point use to be how quick he gets the ball out. Shanny blowing another 10 point lead. And to top it off, the game was just boring. I’m starting to wonder if they will even make the playoffs. You got Seattle in Seattle on 4 days rest and then your back at Levi’s for the chiefs. Seattle is a must win in my opinion. You absolutely have to beat Seattle. You can’t lose another division game.
 

funkykingston

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Makes the Pearsall pick all that more confusing. We have like 50 offensive weapons and massive holes in our LB core, O Line and secondary.
I have to assume that Pearsall was the highest rated player on their board. That's the only thing that makes sense. But even if that's the case I think you either trade back or select a guy rated a bit lower in a bigger position of need. Because even if Pearsall weren't hurt most of camp or tragically shot, I don't think he sees the field other than maybe on special teams unless there were injuries. He wasn't going to play ahead of Aiyuk, Samuel, or Jennings at the very least.

Whatever the rationale, it certainly looks like a really arrogant pick from Lynch and Shanahan given how poorly the team is playing right now.
 
I have to assume that Pearsall was the highest rated player on their board. That's the only thing that makes sense. But even if that's the case I think you either trade back or select a guy rated a bit lower in a bigger position of need. Because even if Pearsall weren't hurt most of camp or tragically shot, I don't think he sees the field other than maybe on special teams unless there were injuries. He wasn't going to play ahead of Aiyuk, Samuel, or Jennings at the very least.

Whatever the rationale, it certainly looks like a really arrogant pick from Lynch and Shanahan given how poorly the team is playing right now.
Pearsall really only made sense to me if Deebo and/or Aiyuk were getting shipped out. Get younger at the skill positions, less expensive, get draft capital back to help refuel some of our problem areas. But... we didn't do that. And it's looking like a massive issue with how much McKivitz in particular is getting blown up week after week at RT. Bosa is his usual self, but Hargrave injury and our D-Line acquisitions this year have been incredibly lackluster. Greenlaw injury has been massive too; a staple of the 49ers defense the last 15 years has been our dominance in the middle of the field with ball-hawking LB's.

I think that's still likely the case next year where there's basically 0 shot all our skill guys are back (wouldn't be surprised if 2 are gone) and we just aren't good enough elsewhere to make another run this season.
 
Yeah, team just isn't it. I think we probably still are a playoff team? But we certainly aren't a world-beater squad that's a NFC favorite.

This is also precisely why you go pay the QB. So you don't have to worry about fall-off from a pile of overpriced vets not performing up to standard. Pay Brock and start over.
The problem, for me at least, is NOT a question of do you pay Brock or do you not pay Brock?. You have to pay Brock. The real question becomes how much do you pay him, and for how long? If I were the Niners, I'd pay Brock for, say 5 years, or 3 years with an option for year 4. If, within a specified, and agreed upon, time period, the Niners do not make it back to the Super Bowl, you don't renew the contract, and you either let him walk or trade him for assets.

Not many quarterbacks have a long enough career to be able to endure multiple cycles of becoming a contender. And most of them see that second cycle be a much shorter one. I think you have one more solid run left with Brock leading the way. If that don't work out, move on.

And, what I've outlined above is, quite precisely, why I despise Jerruh for giving Dak that stupid contract.
 
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The problem, for me at least, is NOT a question of do you Brock or do you not Brock?. You have to pay Brock. The real question becomes how much do you pay him, and for how long? If I were the Niners, I'd pay Brock for, say 5 years, or 3 years with an option for year 4. If, within a specified, and agreed upon, time period, the Niners do not make it back to the Super Bowl, you don't renew the contract, and you either let him walk or trade him for assets.

Not many quarterbacks have a long enough career to be able to endure multiple cycles of becoming a contender. And most of them see that second cycle be a much shorter one. I think you have one more solid run left with Brock leading the way. If that don't work out, move on.

And, what I've outlined above is, quite precisely, why I despise Jerruh for giving Dak that stupid contract.
You pay him what he wants. There's just no choice. He's essentially had one of the best starts for a QB to his career in NFL history as a young ascending QB. That's the power these good/proven QB's have over teams; don't want to pay? Fine, GL trying to find someone else even close, I'll have 7+ other teams ready to open their checkbook.

You can reset with a 26-27 year old Brock Purdy with a young team. He's only going to keep getting better and he's someone who will be able to elevate a young team.

And in Jerrys case, the dude just might not have the time to sit through a Cowboys rebuild at 81 years old. But same sort of idea; Dak is a top 10 QB in the NFL. Those don't grow on trees. So either you have to fully bottom out and hope there's a Jaden Daniels in your draft (at some point), let him develop to just get back to the point of where he's as good as a Dak is now.
 

funkykingston

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What was he scapegoated for? I don't remember that.
SLAB can confirm, but I believe he meant Saleh got scapegoated in NY. He built a very good defense, but he's being fired for the offense underperforming. I think Rodgers probably helped push him out the door and I can't see how the offense gets any better since the interim HC will be Jeff Ulbrich, who was Saleh's DC.