[Game] Kings vs. Cavaliers, 11/13/2023 7pm Pacific 10pm Eastern
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It's kind of funny that our odds are the worst in the division by FAR yet there are so many crappy teams. It's almost as if the idiot GMs out there think that if they land an all-star player that they will be able to fit in with what they have already. I am looking at you Clippers. A starting lineup of Harden, Westbrook, George, Leonard, and Zubac look pretty dang good on paper, but what a freaking mess this team is. All these pieces that don't fit in the slightest, yet some NBA people on the NBA channel or ESPN (or online media) think that adding old players who don't fit with other old players will make their team good or something. On paper the Clippers starting lineup look like world beaters, but there is only one ball to go around, and all these prima donnas feel the need to play a bunch of one on one ball.
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Keon's offense hasn't translated, but the big difference is he stays out of the way and keeps our offensive flow moving. Davion is a ball-stopper when he's got primary ball-handler duty.
And flat out, Keon's defense has been better these last 3 games than Davion's all season. So if we're going with the no offense/all defense, the answer has to be Keon right. Far more versatile too with his switchability to defend multiple positions and play down a spot if needed.
And flat out, Keon's defense has been better these last 3 games than Davion's all season. So if we're going with the no offense/all defense, the answer has to be Keon right. Far more versatile too with his switchability to defend multiple positions and play down a spot if needed.
Fox 28-6-2 for his first game back and he was like our 4th best player tonight. Unreal.
But yeah his gravity of collapsing the paint is how this offense runs to it's full potential. And now that Monk is doing it more consistently too; just having two guys constantly attacking the rim with a stable of elite shooting (Keegan/Kvon/Sasha were a combined 11-22 from 3). Oh, and you have baby-Jokic orchestrating the the off-ball stuff at the top of the key to still key in on and stop.
But yeah his gravity of collapsing the paint is how this offense runs to it's full potential. And now that Monk is doing it more consistently too; just having two guys constantly attacking the rim with a stable of elite shooting (Keegan/Kvon/Sasha were a combined 11-22 from 3). Oh, and you have baby-Jokic orchestrating the the off-ball stuff at the top of the key to still key in on and stop.
yeah I'm kind of with you. I think we've got to find a way to give both of them minutes, but Coach is riding with the hot hand right now. I don't like that we're putting Davion in the dog house though. He's played much better throughout the season than someone like Chris Duarte. I know he gives us size and plays a bad enforcer role, but his minutes feel undeserved right now
Offense was great today. 32 assists. Even Len had 3 assists! Fox opened up the floor, and ALL of our shooters made their open shots. Huerter’s stroke looks a ton better (Kayte also commented on the hitch he had that’s he’s been working on) and Keegan’s shot had the rotation and elevation we all saw last year.
I will say if there’s a positive from the brief adversity the team faced, it’s now knowing Len and Ellis should be in the rotation and getting 12-16 mins. Their defense and effort complement Monk and Sasha perfectly. It’s sucks for Davion that he’s the odd man out, but I think Keon’s game is a better fit overall
I will say if there’s a positive from the brief adversity the team faced, it’s now knowing Len and Ellis should be in the rotation and getting 12-16 mins. Their defense and effort complement Monk and Sasha perfectly. It’s sucks for Davion that he’s the odd man out, but I think Keon’s game is a better fit overall
Davion also has a skill that Keon doesn't have and that's elite ball handling and an elite first step.
Davion was doing fine hitting set shots too which I guess we need a bigger sample size for Keon.
So I wouldn't call offense a wash at least in terms of potential but I might be wrong.
On defense we have a large sample size on Davion and although I think Keon has been great, I don't think it's fair to write off a guy who everyone knows is a stud on defense.
If Klay Thompson hadn't hit that shot over him I doubt people would be talking all that much about players just shooting right over him.
Just saying that I don't think Keon is better than Davion, if anything they're equal right now therefore I don't think leaving Davion completely out of the rotation for Ellis would be fair.
Davion was doing fine hitting set shots too which I guess we need a bigger sample size for Keon.
So I wouldn't call offense a wash at least in terms of potential but I might be wrong.
On defense we have a large sample size on Davion and although I think Keon has been great, I don't think it's fair to write off a guy who everyone knows is a stud on defense.
If Klay Thompson hadn't hit that shot over him I doubt people would be talking all that much about players just shooting right over him.
Just saying that I don't think Keon is better than Davion, if anything they're equal right now therefore I don't think leaving Davion completely out of the rotation for Ellis would be fair.
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