Looking ahead to the 2023 Draft

Good Luck to SDSU!!! Hope we get a competitive game that goes down to the wire in the championship.

SDSU has been winning slugfests all tournament, now they get to face the heaviest of all the heavyweights in the field. How they deal with Sanogo and Clingan will hold major weight in the outcome.

It'd seem like this is the perfect game for Jadeon LeDee's midrange J to be on point, maybe he could drag Clingan around n get him out of the paint

Matt Bradley vs Jordan Hawkins is a primo SG matchup..

East Coast vs West Coast

Team full of transfers vs one more traditionally recruited..

It's gonna be a showdown!
 
theres a list of things that are amazing about that above play from Wembanyama.

just on the stillframe though, look at his fingers on the ball, hahah thats totally ridiculous looking, type of thing that almost makes me do a double take to make sure im looking at a regulation sized ball..
 
Last edited:

bajaden

Hall of Famer
Good Luck to SDSU!!! Hope we get a competitive game that goes down to the wire in the championship.

SDSU has been winning slugfests all tournament, now they get to face the heaviest of all the heavyweights in the field. How they deal with Sanogo and Clingan will hold major weight in the outcome.

It'd seem like this is the perfect game for Jadeon LeDee's midrange J to be on point, maybe he could drag Clingan around n get him out of the paint

Matt Bradley vs Jordan Hawkins is a primo SG matchup..

East Coast vs West Coast

Team full of transfers vs one more traditionally recruited..

It's gonna be a showdown!
I'm hoping for the same thing, but UConn has been so good this year, and beaten everyone by double digits in the tournment. My fear is that it's a another blow out for UCONN. Hope not!
 
so along with Kobe Bufkin's announcement of entering the draft was the announcement "he has elected to forgo his remaining eligibility"



so he's in! Great news for the Kings, if he goes before our pick he helps push whoever down 1 spot further to us, if he's on the board, I say thats even better would be a welcome addition here.
 
I'm hoping for the same thing, but UConn has been so good this year, and beaten everyone by double digits in the tournment. My fear is that it's a another blow out for UCONN. Hope not!
I'm a huge Jadeon LeDee fan on SDSU but I mean, unless he has his best game of the season, IDK if he's got any chance to get drafted.

Matt Bradley's no slouch either, I used to tune into see him at Cal as an underclassman.. lowkey whenever I watched SDSU this season I'd think -- Cal Basketball died to make this team happen! XD

A quick aside - Holy Moly, Cal went 3-29 this season! They just hired Mark Madsen the guy known for doing the goofy dance at the Lakers championship parade.

LeDee is one of these guys who was actually ranked super high when he was a Freshman in highschool, like top10, I think they said he had a size 17 shoe back then and you could tell he was going to be ridiculously powerful. SO I always root for players like that put on the pedastal early to not uh, fade to obscurity. LeDee's definitely limited on offense but a stout defender with a knack for getting orebs, I really belive if he can hit his midrange J's in this game that could be a factor.

In the same boat I've been keeping tabs on Andre Jackson Jr for years, he's from New York, I try to stay well versed on my homestate players who achieve 4 star rankings (like Kevin Huerter).. whos got some limitations, but hes also well equipped for todays NBA in many ways.

I'm just the biggest Donovan Clingan fan too. Said it a long time ago in this thread but he's like Ivica Zubac, who I also was a huge fan of(I was a staunch beliver Zubac was superior to Papagiannis b4 that draft). Clingan was preposterously underrated, he always looked like a player who was gonna get drafted to me. I always just thought with him "He's from Bristol Connecticut (Home of ESPN's headquarters) ESPN's gonna hype him up one day cuz of that".

Hawkins is a really fun player to watch as well, freshman year you could tell he was destined for big things and that they had recruited a sleeper, its crazy the way he's pulled thru. He just gets in the zone n he finds daylight in the defense n doesnt need more than a glimpse of it to get a clean shot off.

I can't say enough about Adama Sanogo but i'll keep it short, cuz he's not the type of player who does too much extra, he's just shown SO MUCH IMPROVEMENT so I just hope he can keep that momentum going. 76% FT's this season!!
 
Last edited:
Vecenie was singing the praises of Clingan on the latest pod and says he will go in the first if he declares.
I'll sure take him in the first! Clingan's just a player who should be judged vs NBA level competition, to sit there and really nitpick thru his college footage or stats is almost missing the point, thats more just a matter of how high he goes, I'd think most evaluators would agree he belongs.

better FT shooter than 52% for sure, back in highschool he used to make 3's. His repertoire offensively is pretty well polished for a giant, he's skilled.

using Zach Edey as a comparison point is a good measuring stick, if you think Clingan's the type of C who needs to sit in college til he's an upperclassman, I'd strongly disagree, if Clingan isn't in this draft surely he'll be in 2024. Clingan easily looks like a better shotblocker than Edey to me, I think he runs better too, think he lifts off the ground easier, and for damn sure he moves better laterally, which is how even though I'm unsure of his advanced stats, I'd assume he's seen as elite defensively. With him there's a matter of plays he deters the offense n doesnt pick up a block, there's a bunch of those.

Compare him to Papagiannis! Compare him to Ivica Zubac! Clingan is legit, I've been here saying it since early in the season, several months before he was being mentioned as a possible 2023 selection.

Clingan seems like a real basketball lifer type too, he's gonna keep improving, I believe he's quite motivated. It's said his wingspan is 7'7" and his standing reach is 9'6! I was always high on this years C's and part of that was because Clingan was sort of an ace up the sleeve.

Glad to see UCONN did it! I'm sure Dickie V is pleased. Dan Hurley really is a good coach, one of the best in the nation, glad he got a chip.

Between the Kings and college this season has been probably my favorite ever and I dont think thats dripping with recency bias.
 
Just saw a mock (by Yahoo) that had the Kings taking all west coast college players

24 Max Lewis (Pepperdine)
36 Brandin Podziemski (Santa Clara)
54 Jaylen Clark (UCLA)


Kinda like this

PG Fox, Mitchell, Monk, Podziemski
SG Huerter, Monk, TD, Lewis, Podziemski
SF Murray, Edwards, Lewis, Huerter, Barnes
PF Barnes, Murray, Edwards, Lyles
C Sabonis, Lyles, Len, Queta, Holmes

(Clark had a serious achilles injury long ago so I'm not even gonna put him on the depth chart, he adds a stout athletic defender when ready though, sorta gives us another reason to resign Terence Davis too)
 
Last edited:
Bobi Klintmans declared for the draft!

He's maintaining his eligibility I'm wondering what were gonna hear about him predraft.

He looks very comfortable on the perimeter offensively to me for a 6'10 player.

There's also defensive potential hes long and seems to move well. Wake Forest listed him at 225lbs so if true he's bulked up significantly and also grown about 2" in the past few years so who knows what his wingspan is.
 
Jadeon LeDee will enter the draft according to Jon Rothstein, will maintain his college eligibility.

!

I've sat here dropped many posts about LeDee, thats the first I've heard from anyone else about his name n this draft. Good to see! Crazy they made the National Championship game, what a ride.
 
While UCLA's Jamie JAcquez is technically a senior, he's still got 1 year left of eligibility due to Covid, but he'll forgo that eligibility and will be in this draft.
 
The Grizzlies waived Kennedy Chandler the 38th pick in the 2022 draft.. how bout that..

I tend to want to wait at least 3 full seasons to do redraft scenarios, but the 2nd rd's seem to settle in place at a much faster rate than the 1st rders. Interesting move. In the same felt swoop they resigned the undrafted free agent rookie Kenneth Lofton Jr. Obviously Steven Adams injury might be a factor here, interesting nonetheless thru a draft watching perspective

I also noticed Bryce McGowans the 40th pick starting at SG and getting more minutes than James Bouknight for the Hornets yesterday (though I mainly just check in on Mark Williams there and otherwise am lacking lots of context when it comes to the Hornets)
 

Capt. Factorial

trifolium contra tempestatem subrigere certum est
Staff member
I didn’t realize the playoffs are not factored into the final draft slotting. I haven’t had to look at the end of the first round for a minute
 
20 year old Kenneth Lofton Jr who went Undrafted last season drops 42 points and 14 boards on 17/25 shooting yesterday for the Grizzlies.


crap like that is why I laugh at these people trying to downplay the talent in these drafts.. Its never the guy sitting there watching 1000 college games making those blanket statement claims either, its always some guy who can't be bothered to do even entry-level due dilligence, who instead parrots someones opinion in the media that they assume did said due diligence and runs with it..


If the talent is so bad, or mediocre, how do so many solid players/prospects go undrafted every season?? How does Fred Van Vleet go Undrafted, is it because he doesnt jump 45" in the air?


Udonis Haslem was an undrafted guy. He just finished his career/20th season at 42 years old.


Surely Kings fans have had a taste of this seeing as Brad Miller is one of just a handful of undrafted players to ever make an All-Star team. Though I do think that Moses Malone winning the MVP as an Undrafted player, that might be unattainable, he might stand alone with that distinction for a long time, we will see many records previously considered unbreakable go down before that happens IMO.
 
Last edited:
20 year old Kenneth Lofton Jr who went Undrafted last season drops 42 points and 14 boards on 17/25 shooting yesterday for the Grizzlies.


crap like that is why I laugh at these people trying to downplay the talent in these drafts.. Its never the guy sitting there watching 1000 college games making those blanket statement claims either, its always some guy who can't be bothered to do even entry-level due dilligence, who read someone elses opinion in the media that they assume did said due diligence, then they wanna run with that notion..


If the talent is so bad, or mediocre, how do so many solid players/prospects go undrafted every season?? How does Fred Van Vleet go Undrafted

Udonis Haslem was an undrafted guy. He just finished his career/20th season at 42 years old.

Surely Kings fans have had a taste of this seeing as Brad Miller is one of just a handful of undrafted players to ever make an All-Star team. Though I do think that Moses Malone winning the MVP as an Undrafted player, that might be unattainable, he might stand alone with that distinction for a long time, we will see many records previously considered unbreakable go down before that happens IMO.
He proved he was legit in Summer League his skills are outstanding just his lack of size in terms of height have held him back I guess, basketball has a massive surplus of talent (unlike say boxing/MMA where the pool is small) there is legit 100's of guys outside the NBA who if they got in the right situation would be legit NBA player/Euroleaguers the hardest part is getting a chance (hell I'm actually shocked Jokic got a chance) rather than performing against the best for most these guys
 
He proved he was legit in Summer League his skills are outstanding just his lack of size in terms of height have held him back I guess, basketball has a massive surplus of talent (unlike say boxing/MMA where the pool is small) there is legit 100's of guys outside the NBA who if they got in the right situation would be legit NBA player/Euroleaguers the hardest part is getting a chance (hell I'm actually shocked Jokic got a chance) rather than performing against the best for most these guys
Yep its a damn shame that Oleksander Usyk doesnt have better competition to face in the heavyweight division.

They didnt vote to remove the one-and-done rule in this CBA, its rumored the next CBA will be when it happens. It was said many NBA vets didnt want to lose their jobs to highschoolers, so the day that happens its gonna be an even tighter squeeze to get some of these players outside the league in.

There are stories like Royce O'Neale, teams are keeping an eye all over the place, but still there's just so many options it stands to reason many will be overlooked. The big one from this season I'd say is the Wizards signing NBL star Xavier Cooks.
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude

Clingan would have been an interesting pick. I don't like his face, but his play seems like it would be a good fit.
24 is riiiight around Kris Murray range (not sure why but the guy's dropped in most recent mocks to the point that some guys have him going in the second round).

37 is in a really interesting range where there should be a lot of good names still left on the board so I hope Monte decides to use it this year (unless some team out there offers us a future FRP for it or something crazy)

With a third 2-way roster spot available, 54 is an interesting slot to take a flier on a guy/draft-and-stash a Euroleague guy.

Bleacher Report's latest mock (done before the Pacers won their last game and dropped their 2nd rounder from 36 to 37) had us going Sensabaugh (passing on Filipowski, Podziemski, Kris, Bilal, Leonard Miller to do so), Amari Bailey (picked at 36 over Sasser, Cissoko, Keyontae Johnson, Nnaji), and Adem Bona (don't think he's going to stay in this draft because he could be a FRP next season if he has a strong year for UCLA).

Sensabaugh is a really interesting prospect in that he's got this great scoring package and solid height and length but in a physical package that you could charitably say reminds me of Ron Ron (largely ground bound but ridiculously strong for his size) without the lockdown defense. He's still just 19 so there's plenty of time for him to improve on that aspect and the guy can shoot the hell out of the ball (in other words perfect to play off Sabonis and Fox) while creating shots for himself as an iso scorer, which is something the Kings sorta lack outside our stars and HB on occasion. He's in the David Roddy/Kenny Lofton Jr. mold of being thicc-er and more skilled than your average basketball player but he's not as "marshmallow"-ey as either of those guys and a much better shooter than either to boot. Would not be too upset if we got him to say the least.

Also selecting him would make it four years in a row of Monte raiding the Big Ten for his first round selection lol
 
24 is riiiight around Kris Murray range (not sure why but the guy's dropped in most recent mocks to the point that some guys have him going in the second round).

37 is in a really interesting range where there should be a lot of good names still left on the board so I hope Monte decides to use it this year (unless some team out there offers us a future FRP for it or something crazy)

With a third 2-way roster spot available, 54 is an interesting slot to take a flier on a guy/draft-and-stash a Euroleague guy.

Bleacher Report's latest mock (done before the Pacers won their last game and dropped their 2nd rounder from 36 to 37) had us going Sensabaugh (passing on Filipowski, Podziemski, Kris, Bilal, Leonard Miller to do so), Amari Bailey (picked at 36 over Sasser, Cissoko, Keyontae Johnson, Nnaji), and Adem Bona (don't think he's going to stay in this draft because he could be a FRP next season if he has a strong year for UCLA).

Sensabaugh is a really interesting prospect in that he's got this great scoring package and solid height and length but in a physical package that you could charitably say reminds me of Ron Ron (largely ground bound but ridiculously strong for his size) without the lockdown defense. He's still just 19 so there's plenty of time for him to improve on that aspect and the guy can shoot the hell out of the ball (in other words perfect to play off Sabonis and Fox) while creating shots for himself as an iso scorer, which is something the Kings sorta lack outside our stars and HB on occasion. He's in the David Roddy/Kenny Lofton Jr. mold of being thicc-er and more skilled than your average basketball player but he's not as "marshmallow"-ey as either of those guys and a much better shooter than either to boot. Would not be too upset if we got him to say the least.

Also selecting him would make it four years in a row of Monte raiding the Big Ten for his first round selection lol
Kris Murray shot 33% from 3 this season, n he laid lots of bricks up in his teams elimination games, which ya know, if your looking to add a 'Win-now' guy to a playoff roster, isn't exactly encouraging for a player who turns 23 in august.

If his name wasn't Kris Murray would everyone still love him around here? I dont see it.. IDK, he's a worse version of Keegan, when I hear Kings fans talk about team needs, I dont hear them describing a worse version of Keegan as something we need. I signed up to be the devils advocate when It came to Kris early in the season and I sorta feel that he made it too easy for me. Iowa didnt go out with a bang, they went out with a whimper.

Now the discussion with him should be centered around, whats he gonna look like as just one of the guys? instead of the key cog, as he was on Iowa this season. If the Kings do end up selecting him, thats why I think they'll pull the trigger, essentially that he'll shoot it much better without all the defensive focus, but ya know, NBA3pt defenses are WAYYY better than he faced in college, so theres some reason for concern.

I'm simply not buying the jack of all trades explanation totally when he's shooting 4FTA's on all those shots vs younger less experienced players, his most translatable skill needs to be his 3pt shooting to warrant taking him in the top20.


A deep dive into Kris's 3pt shooting shows;

he shot 17/45(38%) in the easier out of conference schedule.

he shot 45/133(33%) in conference play

and in the 2 elimination games he played (both losses) at the end of the season he shot 5/19 (26%), he also drew very few FTA's in these games where hes taking 20FGA's.

So his 3pt shooting got worse as the season went on. I'd say thats why he's fallen on some boards (NBAdraft.net has him at 18 still, they've gotta be the highest on him rn, they also had him in the lottery early in the season though IIRC, and they are notorious for sticking with their guns/deviations from ESPN/DX/Givony)
 
Last edited:
Kris is mocked 15-20 in all the ones I follow- Vecenie, Spinella, tankathon.

I still buy his shooting but I’m mixed on drafting him because I think he would probably be in the Lyles role. We already have Lyles and if we don’t bring him back we will like have Sasha.

Right now, and I reserve the right to change my mind, I’d lean towards adding a different skill set
 

Tetsujin

The Game Thread Dude
Kris Murray shot 33% from 3 this season, n he laid lots of bricks up in his teams elimination games, which ya know, if your looking to add a 'Win-now' guy to a playoff roster, isn't exactly encouraging for a player who turns 23 in august.

If his name wasn't Kris Murray would everyone still love him around here? I dont see it.. IDK, he's a worse version of Keegan, when I hear Kings fans talk about team needs, I dont hear them describing a worse version of Keegan as something we need. I signed up to be the devils advocate when It came to Kris early in the season and I sorta feel that he made it too easy for me. Iowa didnt go out with a bang, they went out with a whimper.

Now the discussion with him should be centered around, whats he gonna look like as just one of the guys? instead of the key cog, as he was on Iowa this season. If the Kings do end up selecting him, thats why I think they'll pull the trigger, essentially that he'll shoot it much better without all the defensive focus, but ya know, NBA3pt defenses are WAYYY better than he faced in college, so theres some reason for concern.

I'm simply not buying the jack of all trades explanation totally when he's shooting 4FTA's on all those shots vs younger less experienced players, his most translatable skill needs to be his 3pt shooting to warrant taking him in the top20.


A deep dive into Kris's 3pt shooting shows;

he shot 17/45(38%) in the easier out of conference schedule.

he shot 45/133(33%) in conference play

and in the 2 elimination games he played (both losses) at the end of the season he shot 5/19 (26%), he also drew very few FTA's in these games where hes taking 20FGA's.

So his 3pt shooting got worse as the season went on. I'd say thats why he's fallen on some boards (NBAdraft.net has him at 18 still, they've gotta be the highest on him rn, they also had him in the lottery early in the season though IIRC, and they are notorious for sticking with their guns/deviations from ESPN/DX/Givony)
The thing about Kris that became abundantly clear as the season went on is that he certainly isn’t as good a prospect as Keegan is. Keegan’s a better athlete than him while being a little bigger and stronger physically. Keegan’s also better with the ball in his hands than Kris as well. The issue Kris had this season in Iowa is that Fran tried using him like Keegan and that’s just not quite Kris’s strong suit (he did flash a couple of good plays with the ball in his hand at times though).
I still really appreciate his spot up shooting ability and defensive projectability though.
Would I take him with Sensabaugh somehow still on the board at 24? Hell no because Sensabaugh has the sort of scoring potential on the wing that could raise this team’s ceiling to ridiculous levels. If the draft plays out sanely and guys like Sensabaugh and GG Jackson and Maxwell Lewis aren’t just randomly plummeting down the draft board, I’m probably still taking Kris over the Strawthers or Sassers or whatevers of the world though.
 
Kris is mocked 15-20 in all the ones I follow- Vecenie, Spinella, tankathon.

I still buy his shooting but I’m mixed on drafting him because I think he would probably be in the Lyles role. We already have Lyles and if we don’t bring him back we will like have Sasha.

Right now, and I reserve the right to change my mind, I’d lean towards adding a different skill set
The thing is these mocks wont stand firm in their opinions, so what are they really worth.. I FIRMLY believe most of them are waiting for ESPN to update their bigboard so they can follow suit...

How did DX become "the most accurate" every year? this is a key question that often goes overlooked. How did DX become the most accurate year after year after year, til they were acquired by ESPN? Was it by process of elimination, favoritism, opinion, scouting fundamentals all that stuff ----- OR was it by making sweeping changes on their boards last minute based on rumors they hear from agents and whoever else?

I say very clearly its the latter. Thats the mechanics of the "most accurate".. It's not some Guru predicting the future, its the guy who can EDIT their list with the most insider info last minute. This gets swept under the rug really quickly cuz people want their mock updates to get clicks.. I point it out cuz I'm no salesman, I just do this stuff for fun, as a hobby. The pre-summer mocks just serve as clickbait for people who dont watch the games far as I'm concerned. Everyones biased, there's no way a single person can track half of this stuff let alone all of it.

IDK its just even more hilarious these days with things like the G-League, the OTE, the NBL poaching talent, am I to just assume these writers are watching Overtime Elite games? G-League games? Thats not what they get paid to do, their on twitter making tweets about what everyone else is tweeting about.

Look at where Giannis Antetkounmpo was mocked all thru the year.. Look where he gets selected! People just take a commonly held belief and RUN with it.. Thats why I actually love this topic of discussion so much... There's a lot of bullcrap, lotta people have opinions but their woefully unsophisticated and often are the result of a phenomena close to the childrens game of telephone. Giannis is the most perfect example of how these things go.. All during that year we heard about how its the worst draft in recent memory, and yet Giannis cant even get selected in the lottery in the worst draft of the decade.. There's BS everywhere u turn.. Too many people are biased, its all very tribal, territorial, when really it should just be about what happens during the games (and I guess psych profiling to prevent players like Robert Upshaw from being overdrafted)
 
Last edited:
The thing is these mocks wont stand firm in their opinions, so what are they really worth.. I FIRMLY believe most of them are waiting for ESPN to update their bigboard so they can follow suit...

How did DX become "the most accurate" every year? this is a key question that often goes overlooked. How did DX become the most accurate year after year after year, til they were acquired by ESPN? Was it by process of elimination, favoritism, opinion, scouting fundamentals all that stuff ----- OR was it by making sweeping changes on their boards last minute based on rumors they hear from agents and whoever else?

I say very clearly its the latter. Thats the mechanics of the "most accurate".. It's not some Guru predicting the future, its the guy who can EDIT their list with the most insider info last minute. This gets swept under the rug really quickly cuz people want their mock updates to get clicks.. I point it out cuz I'm no salesman, I just do this stuff for fun, as a hobby. The pre-summer mocks just serve as clickbait for people who dont watch the games far as I'm concerned. Everyones biased, there's no way a single person can track half of this stuff let alone all of it.

IDK its just even more hilarious these days with things like the G-League, the OTE, the NBL poaching talent, am I to just assume these writers are watching Overtime Elite games? G-League games? Thats not what they get paid to do, their on twitter making tweets about what everyone else is tweeting about.

Look at where Giannis Antetkounmpo was mocked all thru the year.. Look where he gets selected! People just take a commonly held belief and RUN with it.. Thats why I actually love this topic of discussion so much... There's a lot of bullcrap, lotta people have opinions but they’re woefully unsophisticated and often are the result of a phenomena close to the childrens game of telephone. Giannis is the most perfect example of how these things go.. All during that year we heard about how its the worst draft in recent memory, and yet Giannis cant even get selected in the lottery in the worst draft of the decade.. There's BS everywhere u turn.. Too many people are biased, its all very tribal, territorial, when really it should just be about what happens during the games (and I guess psych profiling to prevent players like Robert Upshaw from being overdrafted)
Vecenie and coach spins definitely put in the work imo, so I value their opinions. I like tankathon mostly because it’s super user friendly and easy to navigate. I’m with Fox on college ball (outside of my local teams) so I have to rely on others who watch a lot of it for opinions.
 
Vecenie and coach spins definitely put in the work imo, so I value their opinions. I like tankathon mostly because it’s super user friendly and easy to navigate. I’m with Fox on college ball (outside of my local teams) so I have to rely on others who watch a lot of it for opinions.
On that comment from De'Aaron;

I feel like he might've been indirectly talking about Kentucky when he said that theres a lack of shotmaking. Which for me, I was the same way last 2 seasons watching UK ("why do we have 23 year old SG transfers who arent great 3pt shooters!"), the lack of shotmaking made it rough to watch, I had a much better time watching UCF and Taylor Hendricks than UK this season.

I mean too, if you want to watch great shotmaking in college, find a player like Brandin Podziemski and watch his games. Malik Monk, Kevin Huerter, Keegan Murray, these guys were all great shotmakers in college. Players like Jamal Murray and D'Angelo Russell come to mind, Devin Booker, Tyler Herro, Luke Kennard, the list goes on and on, Markus Howard. I dont buy the whole lack of shotmaking as a whole, I see players taking 10 3's a game n Steph Curry wanna-be's everywhere, but I mean if you just watch some team without a shotmaker I could see how that bias could be formed.

I mean do you see that girl on Iowa?! Caitlyn Clark... I'd offer up some of her highlights if you really think there's a lack of shotmaking in college.. Compare her highlights to some dominant womens player from decades past, you'll see a stark contrast in the shotmaking..

I also think if you remember the game De'Aaron's UK team was eliminated from the tournament, he got screwed by the refs on both sides of the ball, cheapies called on him defensively and then hes getting hacked like crazy and theres no calls on the other, so I'd imagine he doesnt always have all the greatest memories of playing in college.
 
Last edited: