Trade Deadline Thread
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You want monte to wait till he knows for sure it's not going to work and waste years ? Or be proactive as good GM's are and get out while he can? If he is leaning towards it not working out then make the move now.
So far monte as KB02 pointed out is piling up a list of moves he almost made. Why is buddy still here. Does any team want him at this point. Kings are probably stuck with him now.
So far monte as KB02 pointed out is piling up a list of moves he almost made. Why is buddy still here. Does any team want him at this point. Kings are probably stuck with him now.
There’s a common denominator in each of those instances. Monte always seems to be at the short end of some weird circumstance. He’s either just plain unlucky or it’s a pattern of analysis paralysis. As noted here: https://community.kingsfans.com/threads/analysis-paralysis-mcnair.80308/
In b-skool, we used to categorize peers into types by their processes, the data that they gravitate to, and their risk tolerance. CFOs, controllers, ceos, entrepreneurs, coos…Monte is def not in the ceo/entrepreneur category.
In b-skool, we used to categorize peers into types by their processes, the data that they gravitate to, and their risk tolerance. CFOs, controllers, ceos, entrepreneurs, coos…Monte is def not in the ceo/entrepreneur category.
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1. You can’t do a sign and trade without the player and his agent agreeing to a contract. Bucks and Woj carry the majority of the blame, but Monte shouldn’t get credit for a non-trade.
2. It would’ve turned into two seconds.
3. Yea, he got played.
4. Like Rudy Gay, there’s an injury decay component. Both sides blew it.
5. His window is now. Dude doesn’t make it to next year without a game changing move.
2. It would’ve turned into two seconds.
3. Yea, he got played.
4. Like Rudy Gay, there’s an injury decay component. Both sides blew it.
5. His window is now. Dude doesn’t make it to next year without a game changing move.
I think the Kings can look at how Bulls did it with Lavine. They got Derozan, Vuc, and Ball in 6 months and turned into a contender. They got Vuc and Derozan with 3 FRPs and Carter Jr.
Can the Kings do the same with Bagley, Buddy, Barnes, Holmes, Mitchell and 2 of our FRPs to acquire Derozan/ Vuc level of players? If we can acquire Sabonis and Grant using the above assets, maybe we can turn it around.
Can the Kings do the same with Bagley, Buddy, Barnes, Holmes, Mitchell and 2 of our FRPs to acquire Derozan/ Vuc level of players? If we can acquire Sabonis and Grant using the above assets, maybe we can turn it around.
Again, have to have a willing trade partner and reasonable value coming back. Barnes, Buddy, Holmes, Fox and basically anyone under contract can be traded now or this offseason. Im sure we will see some movement at the deadline, but more moves could be made this offseason. If we only make minor deals we may have a top 5 pick to dangle. Plus, its possible that guys like Simmons, Sabonis etc will not be traded at the deadline and a deal could happen when the season is over. Time will tell.
The Bucks deal falling apart was not the result of paralysis. It was done too early to be by the book.
The Atlanta deal sucked.
The Lakers deal most likely was killed by LeBron it was a bad deal for everyone and it sucks that it happened but I am enjoying the Lakers stuck with Westbrook for another year while they are in LeBron's twilight and AD is nearing the end of his prime. It's pure schadenfreude but since the Kings were going to suck I'm into it.
I'd still consider working out a deal with Utah to get picks (2 firsts?) and maybe a young player for Barnes.
There's no reason at this point not to crash and burn this thing and see where the lotto gets us. If we can also move Buddy for a young player and a pick great. I think if we consider shipping Fox it should be done in the offseason or draft day move.
Yes, we should have done this last year but I am sure Vivek thought we could recapture 2018-2019 promise. It's over. Let's move forward.
The Atlanta deal sucked.
The Lakers deal most likely was killed by LeBron it was a bad deal for everyone and it sucks that it happened but I am enjoying the Lakers stuck with Westbrook for another year while they are in LeBron's twilight and AD is nearing the end of his prime. It's pure schadenfreude but since the Kings were going to suck I'm into it.
I'd still consider working out a deal with Utah to get picks (2 firsts?) and maybe a young player for Barnes.
There's no reason at this point not to crash and burn this thing and see where the lotto gets us. If we can also move Buddy for a young player and a pick great. I think if we consider shipping Fox it should be done in the offseason or draft day move.
Yes, we should have done this last year but I am sure Vivek thought we could recapture 2018-2019 promise. It's over. Let's move forward.
It’s one thing if Monte used the $10m in cap space for some other move, but he just sat on it. Then the next year, he gives two seconds plus Cojo for Wright, but then trades Wright for Thompson. Essentially, within a 6 month span, burning two seconds for a bench big that rarely plays. That is bad management of a teams draft assets. Instead of stock piling picks, like Presti, he’s dumping them for end of bench role players.
Remember when we were going after lavine in free agency and most of this board and media were so against it? So many reasons were thrown out on how bad of a signing it would be. Now he’s an allstar on the top team in the East. Not saying he would have done it here but just shows fans and media aren’t always as smart as they think they are.
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Presti gets treated like a god by fans but has made a ton of mistakes and his stock piling of assets may work out but hasn’t yet. Traded Harden, traded Sabonis, lost Durant, took another first rounder he didn’t need instead of Sengun and has now put one of the most pathetic rosters together for the second year in a row. His tanking netted Giddey, a solid player. He has the same number of championships since his 2007 hiring as the Sacramento Kings. Don’t get me wrong, he is a smart guy and likely one of the better GMs, but he gets more praise than he deserves IMO. Even if they net the number one pick this year that team is still going to be bad for awhile. I’m curious if he will start trading all these picks for actual players soon.