Trade Deadline Thread

#32
Meanwhile, there's a suggestion floating out there (mostly just chatter, I'm sure) that the Bulls ought to go after Richaun. Now, there's a lot of stuff the Bulls won't give up to get him, and the only pick they can send is Portland's 2022-etc FRP, which is lotto protected for an amazing 6 years before devolving into a SRP. But if I had to draw up a package that might tempt me, I'd go after that pick, and Ayo Dosunmu, and fill it out with Derrick Jones. Jones may not stick but would be a fun tryout, and I've been all over Dosunmu for a while. But of course, that's a rebuild trade and not a win-now trade, so it's not really up Monte's alley right now...
Richaun with Vuc? Hmm, not sure I understand that fit there. I feel like Barnes is an absolute glove fit for them and would be better suited for their win-now timeline. I'm still trying to will the Pat Williams/DJJ for Barnes deal into existence.

Dosonmu has looked dang good though. If you got him and a FRP pick for Richaun, you do it.
 

SacTownKid

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#33
Richaun with Vuc? Hmm, not sure I understand that fit there. I feel like Barnes is an absolute glove fit for them and would be better suited for their win-now timeline. I'm still trying to will the Pat Williams/DJJ for Barnes deal into existence.

Dosonmu has looked dang good though. If you got him and a FRP pick for Richaun, you do it.
I think going with two bigs these days is wrong, as we've seen with teams that do it, but on paper Holmes is a good compliment for an offensive not a lot of defense big like Vuc.
 
#34
Richaun with Vuc? Hmm, not sure I understand that fit there. I feel like Barnes is an absolute glove fit for them and would be better suited for their win-now timeline. I'm still trying to will the Pat Williams/DJJ for Barnes deal into existence.

Dosonmu has looked dang good though. If you got him and a FRP pick for Richaun, you do it.
I think Hollinger had a small sentence in a piece a few months ago where he said Barnes for Williams. I doubt Chicago would do it, but feel the move gained credibility when someone who is otherwise neutral put it forward.
 

SacTownKid

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#35
Sabonis gives you a legit front court scorer, who is also a legit connector. A much better fit than Fox, who overlaps with Hali too much on ball handling, but doesn't have enough connecting or perimeter shooting to mitigate the overlap.
How is he on defense? Weren't some on this board ablaze with you can't win unless you play defense? Then Fox went down and apparently scoring matters too. Need wings? Check. Plenty of tweener 4/5's? Check. For a Mitchell/pick package maybe the value isn't half bad but it still is what it is. I'm starting to feel like the same set up as last year. Expect something, come back with peanut peripheral moves.
 
#36
How is he on defense? Weren't some on this board ablaze with you can't win unless you play defense? Then Fox went down and apparently scoring matters too. Need wings? Check. Plenty of tweener 4/5's? Check. For a Mitchell/pick package maybe the value isn't half bad but it still is what it is. I'm starting to feel like the same set up as last year. Expect something, come back with peanut peripheral moves.
See my comments here: https://community.kingsfans.com/threads/if-fox-and-hali-are-cornerstones-go-get-sabonis.83446/
 

SacTownKid

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#37
#38
My comments are there as well. I like Sabonis but there is no verified impact there either. They can't just keep lumping production on top of production while avoiding the modern necessities and expect greatness. For a Mitchell/pick package it might be worth the gamble though. For Fox? No way.
For Fox or Mitchell? In a heartbeat.
 

SLAB

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#42
If they get Fox for Sabonis, that FRP pick better be protected all the way down to 10 or so.

I know a lot of people dog on Fox around here, but I still think he's gonna blow up if traded to a competent franchise.
Is he suddenly going to learn to shoot and play defense… okay, maybe defense on a team that preaches it at all but he kind of is what he is, I don’t really expect an immediate blow-up if he moves on. Maybe in 3 years he’ll have the Tyreke level later into his career three to expand his game.

I personally just keep Fox over Sabonis though, I’m not for that trade.
 
#44
Why do we need to make a big splash ?

This season's dead.

Just tank and get a top pick.

If you want to do anything trade Barnes Richaun Hield or whoever for young pieces or picks.

And if you have a trade for Fox that will make the team fit better and be better long term than that's fine.

But please no splashes as a desperation move to make the play in or something like that.

No one wants to see that.

It's just junk and we've already seen the results for the last 15 years.
 
#45
Fair enough, would you do a Harrison with a protected first or bagley/ hield for him?

Just curious what his potential trade value should be in your eyes

Easy no. My guess (with absolutely no basis other than the fact that he missed a lot more time than he should) is that Issac's injury is much more serious than was let on. Even an averagely 20-something-yr-old doesn't need 17 months to come back from an ACL reconstruction. The Magic drafted his replacement. It looks like they are not counting on him to come back anytime soon... and he's signed to three more seasons after this at $17.5M per. This looks like a guy you should stay far away from.

Until we see him back on court and playing like he used to. Issac shouldn't even be considered, imo. His trade value right now is a salary dump (by the Magic) until proven otherwise.
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#46
Why do we need to make a big splash ?

This season's dead.

Just tank and get a top pick.

If you want to do anything trade Barnes Richaun Hield or whoever for young pieces or picks.

And if you have a trade for Fox that will make the team fit better and be better long term than that's fine.

But please no splashes as a desperation move to make the play in or something like that.

No one wants to see that.

It's just junk and we've already seen the results for the last 15 years.
This is the way.
 
#47
Why do we need to make a big splash ?

This season's dead.

Just tank and get a top pick.

If you want to do anything trade Barnes Richaun Hield or whoever for young pieces or picks.

And if you have a trade for Fox that will make the team fit better and be better long term than that's fine.

But please no splashes as a desperation move to make the play in or something like that.

No one wants to see that.

It's just junk and we've already seen the results for the last 15 years.
have you ever seen this team attempt to tank? It’s brutal
 
#48
Mo Bamba and Terrance Ross anyone? if you got Mo/Ross for Heild/Bagley, then trade Barnes and FRP Mitchell for Sabonis, is that a win at all?
 
#49
Apparently there was a deal discussed between utah and sac: The Kings receive Ingles and SG Jared Butler, and Utah receives Marvin Bagley III and a second round pick. (Sactown Royalty)

Obviously off now that Ingles tore his acl
 
#51
Did a trade between Sac, Magic, and Pacers, that ended up working.


Kings get: Ross, Mamba, Sabonis, Lamb
Magic get: Holmes, Heild, Metu
Pacers get: Barnes, Bagley, FRP
 
#52
Why do we need to make a big splash ?

This season's dead.

Just tank and get a top pick.

If you want to do anything trade Barnes Richaun Hield or whoever for young pieces or picks.

And if you have a trade for Fox that will make the team fit better and be better long term than that's fine.

But please no splashes as a desperation move to make the play in or something like that.

No one wants to see that.

It's just junk and we've already seen the results for the last 15 years.
my guy.

We all know this. My grandma who doesn't even know the Kings are a pro team knows this. Everyone in human existence knows this except the people actually running/owning the team.

Which is why it's so dumb we follow this team in the first place.. ugh. Should have made a better decision 20 years ago.
 

SLAB

Hall of Famer
#54
Why do we need to make a big splash ?

This season's dead.

Just tank and get a top pick.

If you want to do anything trade Barnes Richaun Hield or whoever for young pieces or picks.

And if you have a trade for Fox that will make the team fit better and be better long term than that's fine.

But please no splashes as a desperation move to make the play in or something like that.

No one wants to see that.

It's just junk and we've already seen the results for the last 15 years.
Or we trade our first for Jerami Grant and totally make the play-in!!!
 
#55
I just don't see how fox and hali can co exist unless fox improves his off ball or 3pt shot considerably. At this point it's obvious you'd want hali doing majority of the ball handling. How often have fox and hali gone over 20 points in the same game. In two years I would guess I could count on 1 hand when both played great. I feel like it's inevitable.

I certainly don't envy monte and the predicament he's in. Tough choices to be made.
 
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#56
Apparently there was a deal discussed between utah and sac: The Kings receive Ingles and SG Jared Butler, and Utah receives Marvin Bagley III and a second round pick. (Sactown Royalty)

Obviously off now that Ingles tore his acl
I read the article. I like Butler. He’s smooth. Though it wasn’t confirmed by Fleischer. More spec from STR. That said, I’m over these after the fact, would could’ve been trades from Monte. Dude has a clear pattern. He’s always processing rumored on the table trades, but somehow fails to pull the trigger—bogi x 2, Buddy, now Ingles…we’ll likely see a few more by the deadline. Results matter, Monte. Pull da trigger.
 
#57
If they get Fox for Sabonis, that FRP pick better be protected all the way down to 10 or so.

I know a lot of people dog on Fox around here, but I still think he's gonna blow up if traded to a competent franchise.
This is not a competent franchise, so he's not likely to blow up here. It's not working. So try something different. If he plays better somewhere else, it doesn't necessarily mean that you lost the trade, as long as you get someone that fits better with Haliburton in return
 
#58
I read the article. I like Butler. He’s smooth. Though it wasn’t confirmed by Fleischer. More spec from STR. That said, I’m over these after the fact, would could’ve been trades from Monte. Dude has a clear pattern. He’s always processing rumored on the table trades, but somehow fails to pull the trigger—bogi x 2, Buddy, now Ingles…we’ll likely see a few more by the deadline. Results matter, Monte. Pull da trigger.
Monte purposefully tore Ingles ACL? LOL
 
#60
Monte purposefully tore Ingles ACL? LOL
Of course he didn’t, but Monte is either the most cursed GM ever where random weird sh*t blows up his trades or he’s just sitting on them for way too long.

Since he’s been here:

1. Woj torpedoes a potential trade. Bucks def carry more of the blame, but it’s not like Bogi was roped into the sign and trade beforehand.

2. Monte refuses to take on Snell’s salary and thereby is unable to get a protected first for Bogi. Rumor was he was given an hour to decide, so he passed.

3. LA apparently uses Monte and Montrezell as pawns.

4. Now Ingles ACL blows up a potential trade.

5. What’s next?