NBA Playoffs, Round Two

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burekijogurt

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KingsFanSince85 said:
Nah, that’s not what happened. He swiped out of frustration. I really don’t know how you can argue against that with a straight face.

Again, the excessive wind up is the compelling factor. There’s no legitimate defense to be made for it. That part wasn’t a “play on the ball”.

He didn’t poke at the ball. Or even swipe at the ball in a conventional sense. He added a full wind up. That’s not basketball no matter how you try to spin it.

Lastly your point about a fist, elbow or forearm not striking Payne is very bad one. It’s the intent that counts. If a player goes full Shaq haymaker on Brad Miller but misses, does it matter? No. It’s the intent that matters.

Gobert can say whatever he wants after the fact. Video evidence clearly shows a frustrated player taking a full wind up to then swipe at the ball.

That’s what the NBA saw and why he received a flagrant 2. That’s what I saw and what a lot of others did too. The video doesn’t lie.

As I stated before, Gobert may not have intended to strike Cameron Payne, but he did. Due to a reckless swipe at the ball. The wind up was not necessary to execute that move.

If you’re arguing otherwise you just haven’t a leg to stand on.
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Intent does not matter at all. Its nowhere in the definition of the flagrant 1 and 2 NBA uses. Flagrant 1 is unnecessary contact and flagrant 2 is unnecessary and excessive contact. Thats it.
 
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mac

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burekijogurt said:
After shooting 43.8% from three for the season, Nate trusts him. That's why he played him 42 minutes. Notable is that both his overall shooting percentage and 3pt shooting percentage this game was better than the team overall even though he shot poorly to end the game.
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Didn't say anything about his season - I said he nearly cost them the game bricking a ton of wide open shots when the game was very close near the end. Also, 0 assists and 24 shots!
 
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dude12

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mac said:
Didn't say anything about his season - I said he nearly cost them the game bricking a ton of wide open shots when the game was very close near the end. Also, 0 assists and 24 shots!
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Doesn’t matter what you say, Bogi stans are on going to defend him til the end. That’s their guy.
 
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burekijogurt

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mac said:
Didn't say anything about his season - I said he nearly cost them the game bricking a ton of wide open shots when the game was very close near the end. Also, 0 assists and 24 shots!
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You could also argue that if he did not hit his shots for 22 points before the cold spell at the end they would not be in the position for him to cost them the game.
 
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mac

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burekijogurt said:
You could also argue that if he did not hit his shots for 22 points before the cold spell at the end they would not be in the position for him to cost them the game.
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Factually true, but not typically relevant to discussions about choking/how a guy ends a game when the game is on the line with a few minutes to spare. Again, he shot 9-24 overall, it's not like he only screwed up 1-2 shots at the end.
 
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burekijogurt

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mac said:
Factually true, but not typically relevant to discussions about choking/how a guy ends a game when the game is on the line with a few minutes to spare. Again, he shot 9-24 overall, it's not like he only screwed up 1-2 shots at the end.
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Factually true, but without his offensive output and spacing Atlanta does not win that game.
 
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