Woj: Kings let Bogi go
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Plus a million. Sometimes the best thing you can do is nothing. Losing Bogdan doesn't technically even create some gaping hole. Veteran depth is suffering after this summer for sure but as stated above, believe it or not depth was Vlades anchor. He put together a complete team but clearly never put it into a real world perspective. He signed "assets" without remembering those "assets" are tied to mouths with pouty faces and agents who more often than not get their way.
And this team looked just as bad with them early. This team was deep. If anything that overdepth Vlade signed should have kept them in it. It was actually the injuries that kept a total locker room implosion at bay. They turned it on late when injuries allowed Walton to play players that fit his system a little better but they got a little lucky too. And you can check the game threads, some on this board saw that teams were figuring out the scheme and in the bubble they stuck it right to Walton as opposing coaches gave him purple nurples and wedgies galor.
Bagley will be but I would argue isn't today. Between Barnes and Hield most people would like them to be first off the bench, but I guess they are legit. eta: I should have said imho, on a playoff team 2-3 of these guys would be coming off the bench. Obviously there is hope that Bagley will be an all-star level guy but he didn't really get to play much last season so it's unclear what we have right now.
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not confused, just jealous. Better teams got better and some worse teams got better. We are pretty much where we were when free agency started. Even OKC who definitely got worse, has a bright future with a bajillion draft picks. Not all or even any of this is Monte's fault. Like I said, I believe he is trying, he just has nothing to show for it which is upsetting. He tried to get the s & t to the bucks, He tried to get another s & t with other teams. He probably tried to trade buddy in the last 48 hours. Just nothing happened. But I guess i should be happy our new GM at least knows how to pick up the phone.
I liked Bogi. I would have preferred to keep him but you only do that if you have a deal for Buddy. Otherwise you risk going into the season with unhappy players who get in each other's way and a very good chance of getting a draft pick in the late lottery.
Make no mistake about it. The only lasting piece of this team right now is De'Aaron Fox with next season to be an opportunity to see if Bagley, Haliburton, and possibly Woodard and/or Ramsey are potential building blocks at well. Nobody else is part of the long term plan. And even if Bagley comes around and Haliburton is a great fit next to Fox I think you need a star wing player to make it all work.
A top 5-10 pick in next year's draft could provide exactly that.
Make no mistake about it. The only lasting piece of this team right now is De'Aaron Fox with next season to be an opportunity to see if Bagley, Haliburton, and possibly Woodard and/or Ramsey are potential building blocks at well. Nobody else is part of the long term plan. And even if Bagley comes around and Haliburton is a great fit next to Fox I think you need a star wing player to make it all work.
A top 5-10 pick in next year's draft could provide exactly that.
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You could be right and that is without considering any improvement from Bagley and possibly less Injuries. Having said that, the West got stronger and several of the teams who picked ahead of us got much better so we are likely to hover somewhere between 6-10. Even that range looks pretty good in this upcoming draft.
If I'm being cynical, I don't think it can yet be assumed that Fox is who we should place our bets on. I mean, the extension we gave was a "duh" move and by virtue of that he is our long term plan; I just don't think we can assume that it's the correct long term plan yet. It would be like saying our long term plan is to build around Mike Conley if you know what I mean.
This again? Might as well say you don't care when Buddy Hield dribbles it off his leg out of bounds. Why the salary cap matters to the fans even if it's not your money is just... so... basic...
BTW, those who talk about acquiring assets mean draft picks or players under 25 on a rookie contract. Not a ho-hum shooting guard just good enough to put the 2021 draft pick in jeopardy(which btw is just as good and top-heavy as 2018). Signing Bogi is signing George Hill all over again.
BTW, those who talk about acquiring assets mean draft picks or players under 25 on a rookie contract. Not a ho-hum shooting guard just good enough to put the 2021 draft pick in jeopardy(which btw is just as good and top-heavy as 2018). Signing Bogi is signing George Hill all over again.
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I just feel like 6-10 is another half baked attempt at tanking.
Now if the Kings win more games than they need to because Fox takes a step ahead, Haliburton looks like he's in year 3 and Bagley looks like he's going to turn into something.....then I'd be ok with that.
But we've all been around long enough to know that it'll be something more like trading Holmes and Bjelica as 3 month rentals for peanuts or riding Buddy and Barnes hard while taking minutes away from developmental players that need to be good for a real run at the playoffs in the future.
We all know the drill. Just hoping it doesn't go down like that again.
Now if the Kings win more games than they need to because Fox takes a step ahead, Haliburton looks like he's in year 3 and Bagley looks like he's going to turn into something.....then I'd be ok with that.
But we've all been around long enough to know that it'll be something more like trading Holmes and Bjelica as 3 month rentals for peanuts or riding Buddy and Barnes hard while taking minutes away from developmental players that need to be good for a real run at the playoffs in the future.
We all know the drill. Just hoping it doesn't go down like that again.
Yeah, it's potentially a bleak picture. Which is why arguing about whether to match on Bogi is a bit pointless. If Bagley and Haliburton don't turn out to be difference makers then the Kings have a long way to go to be a good team and holding on to an above average, 28 year old SG doesn't change that fact at all.
But the perpetual optimist in me says that Bagley will at least show that he's a solid piece, Hali will be a great glue guy and next year's draft will deliver the piece that completes the core.
But the perpetual optimist in me says that Bagley will at least show that he's a solid piece, Hali will be a great glue guy and next year's draft will deliver the piece that completes the core.
