Free Agency

[NewArena]

Yeah, seems like they're going for it (lol). Bridges and Batum expiring for Buddy and Bjelica sounds good to me.

That’s an awful trade for us IMO

 

[The Effort Police]

Bogi is better off the ball. Playing in a 3 guard rotation with Fox and Haliburton would improve his game.

So Bogi's an off ball player now?

Even if I believed that, he doesn't hold a candle to Buddy in that regard and it's not close. If the goal is to have a 3 guard rotation with a 3rd off-ball guard along Fox and Haliburton, Bogi is easily the worst option of the two to make that happen.

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1330258270154608643

 

[Tetsujin]

So Bogi's an off ball player now?

Even if I believed that, he doesn't hold a candle to Buddy in that regard and it's not close. If the goal is to have a 3 guard rotation with a 3rd off-ball guard along Fox and Haliburton, Bogi is easily the worst option of the two to make that happen.

Bogi isn’t getting enough touches while simultaneously getting too many touches!

What’s so confusing about that?

 

[sactowndog]

So Bogi's an off ball player now?

Even if I believed that, he doesn't hold a candle to Buddy in that regard and it's not close. If the goal is to have a 3 guard rotation with a 3rd off-ball guard along Fox and Haliburton, Bogi is easily the worst option of the two to make that happen.

bogi doesn’t get lost in team defense or throw the ball away. You seem to forget two sides of the court. Yes Buddy is a better shooter but it stops there

 

[Tetsujin]

bogi doesn’t get lost in team defense or throw the ball away. You seem to forget two sides of the court. Yes Buddy is a better shooter but it stops there

People seem to have a much rosier picture of Bogi’s decision making than I do because Bogi was a walking turnover/bad shot machine for long stretches of his time in Sacramento.

 

[dude12]

People seem to have a much rosier picture of Bogi’s decision making than I do because Bogi was a walking turnover/bad shot machine for long stretches of his time in Sacramento.

No, I think most people realize it. He needs to be moved

 

[joemama]

Rondo to hawks

 

[The_Jamal]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1330262122094338053

So they still technically have enough for Bogdan, but why?

Trae-Rondo
Dunn?-Huerter
Hunter-Reddish
Gallo-Collins?
Capela-Okongwu

I doubt Dunn and Rondo were brought in not to play minutes and just as depth. Trae is like 35+ MPG. So if you bring in Bogdan, you're basically just burying Huerter and/or Reddish. Also, you have the Collins extension looming (likely close to max) and Trae the year after (the max). With Capela, Gallo and Bogdan (if they signed him); that team could get crazy expensive in 2022-23 with all 3 of those contracts on the books and the 2 maxes for Collins and Trae.

 

[SLAB]

People seem to have a much rosier picture of Bogi’s decision making than I do because Bogi was a walking turnover/bad shot machine for long stretches of his time in Sacramento.

Its the benefit of playing next to one of the dumbest players in the league. Suddenly Bogi’s mediocre at best basketball IQ is magnified because Buddy just did something 3 times as stupid a possession ago.

 

[The Effort Police]

bogi doesn’t get lost in team defense or throw the ball away. You seem to forget two sides of the court. Yes Buddy is a better shooter but it stops there

How is throwing the ball away somehow so relevant that it's your key argument to why Bogi is so much better as an off-ball player?

He's also better in transition, cutting to the basket, and general moving without the ball.

 

[joemama]

Shams Charania @ShamsCharania
Free agent Paul Millsap has agreed to a one-year, $10M-plus deal to return to the Denver Nuggets, his agent DeAngelo Simmons tells @The Athletic @Stadium.

 

[sactowndog]

People seem to have a much rosier picture of Bogi’s decision making than I do because Bogi was a walking turnover/bad shot machine for long stretches of his time in Sacramento.

That or Kings fans appear to think they are much smarter than NBA GM’s and that dumping Bogi for nothing is actually a good move.

 

[sactowndog]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1330262122094338053

So they still technically have enough for Bogdan, but why?

Trae-Rondo
Dunn?-Huerter
Hunter-Reddish
Gallo-Collins?
Capela-Okongwu

I doubt Dunn and Rondo were brought in not to play minutes and just as depth. Trae is like 35+ MPG. So if you bring in Bogdan, you're basically just burying Huerter and/or Reddish. Also, you have the Collins extension looming (likely close to max) and Trae the year after (the max). With Capela, Gallo and Bogdan (if they signed him); that team could get crazy expensive in 2022-23 with all 3 of those contracts on the books and the 2 maxes for Collins and Trae.

true which could mean a trade is still coming.

 

[NewArena]

We get Hayward when he turns 40.

I wouldn’t even want him right now

 

[The_Jamal]

I'm not even sure the increased role on ATL is even guaranteed anymore. Trae, Rondo, Dunn, Gallo, Collins. 3 young wings (although Hunter more of a small-ball 4). That's a lot of shots/playmaking/controlling the ball that Bogi isn't going to get.

 

[SLAB]

That or Kings fans appear to think they are much smarter than NBA GM’s and that dumping Bogi for nothing is actually a good move.

NBA GMs sure are pounding down Bogi’s door in this offseason of wild spending on mediocre players.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Knicks have been quiet. But will they prefer to roll over cap space for next season at this point?

 

[joemama]

NBA GMs sure are pounding down Bogi’s door in this offseason of wild spending on mediocre players.

You forgot the eye-roll emoji

 

[Tetsujin]

That or Kings fans appear to think they are much smarter than NBA GM’s and that dumping Bogi for nothing is actually a good move.

No one is advocating dumping Bogi for nothing. But in this situation, where Bogi’s pure avarice (or his agent’s) appears to have screwed both he and us out of the returns we were looking for, wouldn’t it probably be in everyone’s best interest to part ways cleanly?

 

[sactowndog]

How is throwing the ball away somehow so relevant that it's your key argument to why Bogi is so much better as an off-ball player?

He's also better in transition, cutting to the basket, and general moving without the ball.

because even off ball players have to pass the ball in a movement oriented offense.

 

[joemama]

Boston lost out on 2 targets today.
How about s&t Bogi?

 

[SLAB]

Boston lost out on 2 targets today.
How about s&t Bogi?

We’ll take Jayson Tatum and call it a day.

 

[LPKingsFan]

NBA GMs sure are pounding down Bogi’s door in this offseason of wild spending on mediocre players.

Unless I’ve missed someone, the only restricted fee agents of note to sign so far have stayed home (Beasley, Melton). With all the movement, teams may be wary of having space tied up with an offers sheet that the Kings can decide to match.

 

[Tetsujin]

Boston lost out on 2 targets today.
How about s&t Bogi?

The thoughts crossed my mind but their cap situation already isn’t the best and they’ve already got to give Tatum his max extension.

 

[Tetsujin]

We’ll take Jayson Tatum and call it a day.

Maybe Jaylen but they’ll need to throw in a pick or two just to be fair.

 

[Tetsujin]

Unless I’ve missed someone, the only restricted fee agents of note to sign so far have stayed home (Beasley, Melton). With all the movement, teams may be wary of having space tied up with an offers sheet that the Kings can decide to match.

To be fair, most teams don’t even have any space to tie up with an offer sheet.

 

[sactowndog]

NBA GMs sure are pounding down Bogi’s door in this offseason of wild spending on mediocre players.

not spending on any restricted free agents. Notice Ingram hasn’t signed either.

 

[LPKingsFan]

To be fair, most teams don’t even have any space to tie up with an offer sheet.

good point. And if I’m the Knicks, I might rather take a swing at Ingram than Bogi for now. Sure, the Pelicans likely match, but you hold their feet to the fire, do Ingram’s agent a solid, and pretend to do something to show your fans you tried while you save space for the better 2021 market.

 

[sactowndog]

No one is advocating dumping Bogi for nothing. But in this situation, where Bogi’s pure avarice (or his agent’s) appears to have screwed both he and us out of the returns we were looking for, wouldn’t it probably be in everyone’s best interest to part ways cleanly?

why so we can be like Vlade and give away players for nothing to be a good guy???

heck no. You sign Bogi for a fair deal around 15-17M a year, play a 3 guard line up this year and get a good pick for next year. Depending on who you draft you trade one of them next year.