REPORT: Bogdan Bogdanovic in S&T to Bucks
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I like Bogi and Buddy, but I like defense more.
Fox, DiVincenzo, Jeffries, Barnes and Holmes may become the best defensive unit the Kings have ever put on the floor at one time (although I'm still not sure if Barnes is a +/-). Not sure this group could get us into the playoffs, but for those of us that like defense, there's some upside here.
Fox, DiVincenzo, Jeffries, Barnes and Holmes may become the best defensive unit the Kings have ever put on the floor at one time (although I'm still not sure if Barnes is a +/-). Not sure this group could get us into the playoffs, but for those of us that like defense, there's some upside here.
Read a good description of the trade, basically the Bucks are getting the finished product of DD in Bogi. We are getting the earlier version.
While I don’t think it’s completely accurate because of the defensive abilities of each guy, DD is much younger.
Im hoping we also trade off Bjelica and Cojo to get younger and more athletic.
While I don’t think it’s completely accurate because of the defensive abilities of each guy, DD is much younger.
Im hoping we also trade off Bjelica and Cojo to get younger and more athletic.
I think that's like a 24 win team at best. We all like defense but the rules in the NBA don't allow players to defend, so defense isn't nearly as important as it used to be. If you completely skew your team to be good at something the NBA doesn't allow much of anymore, you aren't going to win very many games.
I think this is a good get for the Kings. McNair has to clean up Vlade's mess. Part of that mess was created by not trading Bogi or Buddy at the deadline last year. Vlade foolishly was going to try to keep both, but that would not have moved this team forward.
Like it was said previously, switching Bogi for Donte actually makes the team better from a fit perspective.
Like it was said previously, switching Bogi for Donte actually makes the team better from a fit perspective.
For what it’s worth, John Hollinger has a new metric called “BORG,” and in his review of the trade on the Athletic, he says it already rates DDV higher than Bogi:
https://theathletic.com/2202893/202...ahead-still-bumpy/?source=user_shared_article
https://theathletic.com/2202893/202...ahead-still-bumpy/?source=user_shared_article
Really nothing to dislike about the trade. I like Bogdan but didn’t really see the point in re-signing him. Milwaukee was the ideal trading partner as they couldn’t price the Kings out like an Atlanta could to avoid having to give anything up. I’m not too worried about not getting a pick from Milwaukee. We got a good young player who can potentially be better than Bogdan in time.
Is Bogi talented? Yes
Did he have some great international and olympic games where he "took over" games? Yes.
On paper did he look good on the Kings? Yes because he is a 2-guard who can handle, pass, shoot and let Fox play off the ball.
In actual games did Bogi "fit?" No because him and Buddy could not play together.
What was Bogi best at in a Kings uni? Being consistently inconsistent.
I really like Bogi, I honestly thought he would have had a greater impact on this team. He had every opportunity to succeed here, but it's time to look forward. DD is a baller and I personally like what grit and hustle can do. I think DD can be a much better fit and play alongside Fox or Buddy. I am frankly SO tired of watching CoJo try to defend the opposition's best player, and even with DD we still need some wings that can defend.
We do not need Bogi at 14-16 Million on our salary cap, period.
Now to move Buddy . . .
Did he have some great international and olympic games where he "took over" games? Yes.
On paper did he look good on the Kings? Yes because he is a 2-guard who can handle, pass, shoot and let Fox play off the ball.
In actual games did Bogi "fit?" No because him and Buddy could not play together.
What was Bogi best at in a Kings uni? Being consistently inconsistent.
I really like Bogi, I honestly thought he would have had a greater impact on this team. He had every opportunity to succeed here, but it's time to look forward. DD is a baller and I personally like what grit and hustle can do. I think DD can be a much better fit and play alongside Fox or Buddy. I am frankly SO tired of watching CoJo try to defend the opposition's best player, and even with DD we still need some wings that can defend.
We do not need Bogi at 14-16 Million on our salary cap, period.
Now to move Buddy . . .
To Lpkingsfan’s point from the athletic
“Yet this is also a tremendous move by the Kings to acquire DiVincenzo, and for me a far better outcome than just paying Bogdanovic to be the fourth-best player on a blah team. DiVincenzo is exactly the type of young, productive wing player they should be looking to nab.”
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“But the Kings did not get Kangz’d here; actually, this is a tremendous get for them.”
“Yet this is also a tremendous move by the Kings to acquire DiVincenzo, and for me a far better outcome than just paying Bogdanovic to be the fourth-best player on a blah team. DiVincenzo is exactly the type of young, productive wing player they should be looking to nab.”
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“But the Kings did not get Kangz’d here; actually, this is a tremendous get for them.”
A few years ago when our core was younger, we were Built to run. And then Vlade made the wrong decision to add slow plodding vets to the few who were already here like Bjelica. Fox is built to run. Bagley and Holmes are built to run. Hield is at his best on the spot up FB 3. Replacing Bogi with DD continues the direction I hope McNair is going to go. Heck, unless I’m mistaken, even Wilson may fit this profile but I’m not sure. Just keep accumulating or increasing our athleticism and speed please.
DiVincenzo is one of those guys that flies under the radar but is actually a very impactful player. Below is a comparison of their advanced impact stats last year:
This indicates that we got...
EDIT: The salary savings are important and something many here may overlook. The cap was projected to go up to $115 mil this year and $125 mil the following year. It's now been recently changed to the following projections:
Teams are going to have to keep a clean sheet and maneuver these significant salary cap changes. This trade makes that easier for us. Below is where our cap sheet sits (just assuming our 2nd round picks, Jeffries, and Guy get minimal 2nd round deals for projection purposes):
RED = Non-Guaranteed
PURPLE = Team Option
BLUE = Player Option
GREEN = Qualifying Offer
This indicates that we got...
- The SG who is more impactful on the court
- The SG who is 4.5 years younger
- The SG who has 2 more years on his rookie deal at ~$3.85 mil per year vs. paying $15 mil+ per year
EDIT: The salary savings are important and something many here may overlook. The cap was projected to go up to $115 mil this year and $125 mil the following year. It's now been recently changed to the following projections:
- 2020-21: $109.1 mil
- 2021-22: $112.0 mil
- 2022-23: $115.7 mil
- 2023-24: $119.2 mil
Teams are going to have to keep a clean sheet and maneuver these significant salary cap changes. This trade makes that easier for us. Below is where our cap sheet sits (just assuming our 2nd round picks, Jeffries, and Guy get minimal 2nd round deals for projection purposes):
RED = Non-Guaranteed
PURPLE = Team Option
BLUE = Player Option
GREEN = Qualifying Offer
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