The ONE AND ONLY Luka Doncic discussion thread
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The other guys on Dallas might not be great players but I have never questioned a single one of them of not playing hard even Zinger despite his shooting troubles still tries super hard on defense. Luka is carrying them but those other guys are doing just enough to give that extra push with really high effort. It's a massive shame they didn't go after Brogdan this offseason that would have been an absolute master stroke and would have made them a nightmare to play against.
It may be obvious I'm not a big Bagley fan because of the draft pick, but I'm a believer it has to be sink or swim with him and his fit with this group because he's so important to this franchise.
Whatever the case, there was a discussion sparked that wasn't shut down immediately regarding Bagley coming off the bench. There were reasons brought up to why Bagley should come off the bench and it wasn't just related to his injury.
If you plug him into the starting lineup and he fits or his talent outweighs the drawbacks and they grow as a unit then I can get onboard with this pick. If they throw him on the bench as a 6th man and continue to mask his flaws and fit, I'd have to reconcile passing on Luka AND have to try and rationalize the Bagley pick as being a good one, which I just cannot do.
Whatever the case, there was a discussion sparked that wasn't shut down immediately regarding Bagley coming off the bench. There were reasons brought up to why Bagley should come off the bench and it wasn't just related to his injury.
If you plug him into the starting lineup and he fits or his talent outweighs the drawbacks and they grow as a unit then I can get onboard with this pick. If they throw him on the bench as a 6th man and continue to mask his flaws and fit, I'd have to reconcile passing on Luka AND have to try and rationalize the Bagley pick as being a good one, which I just cannot do.
Disagree.
He's not the only one who's ever made NBA history and we don't have 25 page long threads 1/5 of the way through the regular season on them with daily updates on what they did or didn't do that night. This is pretty intrinsically linked to the Kings situation.
Do you think Cleveland fans ever just looked at Miami Lebron and merely marveled at the special things he was doing? I doubt it.
He's not the only one who's ever made NBA history and we don't have 25 page long threads 1/5 of the way through the regular season on them with daily updates on what they did or didn't do that night. This is pretty intrinsically linked to the Kings situation.
Do you think Cleveland fans ever just looked at Miami Lebron and merely marveled at the special things he was doing? I doubt it.
Look, I'll be honest with you.
If this were a game thread of basketball, then what you do is fair game. I trash players, call out stanning, and stan for players all the time. But that's not really what this is.
Posting in this is about venting and trying to prove a point. I do it, SLAB does it, all us Luka stans do it. I can't say how much is venting and how much is marveling at the talent for others, since I'm one of the people who is LEAST invested in just witnessing the greatness and MOST invested in spitefully trashing the decision and/or Vlade.
So when you come in here it comes off less like game thread banter and more like an increasingly flimsy series of attempts to deflect from the pick that must not be named.
Like the Russ comparison with their league-wide perception for example: what I'm thinking isn't "rush to Luka's aid", but more "what does that have to do with the fact that we didn't pick him?"
If this were a game thread of basketball, then what you do is fair game. I trash players, call out stanning, and stan for players all the time. But that's not really what this is.
Posting in this is about venting and trying to prove a point. I do it, SLAB does it, all us Luka stans do it. I can't say how much is venting and how much is marveling at the talent for others, since I'm one of the people who is LEAST invested in just witnessing the greatness and MOST invested in spitefully trashing the decision and/or Vlade.
So when you come in here it comes off less like game thread banter and more like an increasingly flimsy series of attempts to deflect from the pick that must not be named.
Like the Russ comparison with their league-wide perception for example: what I'm thinking isn't "rush to Luka's aid", but more "what does that have to do with the fact that we didn't pick him?"
If you would have just said something about Vlade maybe being right about JJ while most the rest of us were wrong would have been fine, but to act like the guys up there really know what they're doing while they whiffed on a walking 30pt triple double....well lets just say my anxiety would not let me pass by that comment without saying something.
Yeah agree I noticed that too. It's great that Vlade apparently found an NBA rotation type player in the second round while nobody else had Justin James on their radar.
However that doesn't justify his massive whiffs in the first round (Papa G, Justin Jackson, Malachi, etc.).
Justin James may be a nice little find but he doesn't move the needle let alone change the trajectory of the entire team. I'd much prefer my GM get the big picks right.
However that doesn't justify his massive whiffs in the first round (Papa G, Justin Jackson, Malachi, etc.).
Justin James may be a nice little find but he doesn't move the needle let alone change the trajectory of the entire team. I'd much prefer my GM get the big picks right.
Splitting the defenders for a drive and slam. Hitting that three in brons face. That’s why I’ve been watching the mavs so much. That is gonna be a team to contend with for many years to come. Congratulations to their scouts and FO for not crapping all over themselves, I mean, overthinking that 2018 draft and taking the best player in the draft. He is a friggin SUPERSTAR!
No, but I like to think this thread was created for us Luka stans to mope and whine and be as toxic as we please about it.
I'm (generally) a good boy in game threads/Kings Rap. Lemme have this one to be a pain in!
And of course I loved watching the Lakers get stomped at home.
I'm (generally) a good boy in game threads/Kings Rap. Lemme have this one to be a pain in!
And of course I loved watching the Lakers get stomped at home.
Justin Jackson is really good at consistently...................................missing wide open shots.
I didn't see any of the game but just checked the box score and for once Justin Jackson wasn't terrible today. Mavs 3rd best player is clearly Hardaway Jr. but that's a pretty big dropoff from the top-2 guys. At this point the difference between Luka and Porzingis is also massive. The Mavericks have to hope that Porzingis is just rusty from having missed so much time. Clearly he's not enough close to the same player right now as when he was with the Knicks.
Numbers notwithstanding, Luka is showing just what a great leader/controller of the game he is. For the Mavs to be 13-6 with a garbage roster and a 20-year old as their leader/savior is remarkable. I don't care what their schedule has been, they've got 3 big wins now and they are consistently beating whoever is put in front of them. Good teams also beat the teams they are supposed to beat.
And yes Tetsujin, who I know is lurking somewhere ready to pounce and post once again that they lost to the New York Knicks twice............last I checked a loss to the Knicks still counts as only one loss. Two losses to the Knicks while embarrassing is still just that, two losses. Besides it's the NBA where anybody can beat anybody on a given night and seemingly every team has another team that inexplicably has their number.
I didn't see any of the game but just checked the box score and for once Justin Jackson wasn't terrible today. Mavs 3rd best player is clearly Hardaway Jr. but that's a pretty big dropoff from the top-2 guys. At this point the difference between Luka and Porzingis is also massive. The Mavericks have to hope that Porzingis is just rusty from having missed so much time. Clearly he's not enough close to the same player right now as when he was with the Knicks.
Numbers notwithstanding, Luka is showing just what a great leader/controller of the game he is. For the Mavs to be 13-6 with a garbage roster and a 20-year old as their leader/savior is remarkable. I don't care what their schedule has been, they've got 3 big wins now and they are consistently beating whoever is put in front of them. Good teams also beat the teams they are supposed to beat.
And yes Tetsujin, who I know is lurking somewhere ready to pounce and post once again that they lost to the New York Knicks twice............last I checked a loss to the Knicks still counts as only one loss. Two losses to the Knicks while embarrassing is still just that, two losses. Besides it's the NBA where anybody can beat anybody on a given night and seemingly every team has another team that inexplicably has their number.
Probably. The only hope is if Bagley comes back and starts putting up either star level or borderline star level stats and leads us to victories. That'll take a little salt out of the wound maybe. I still think he's going to be really good if he can stay healthy.
This will still go down as a gigantic, epic miss regardless, but I'm rooting for Bags.
This will still go down as a gigantic, epic miss regardless, but I'm rooting for Bags.
No, but I like to think this thread was created for us Luka stans to mope and whine and be as toxic as we please about it.
I'm (generally) a good boy in game threads/Kings Rap. Lemme have this one to be a pain in!
And of course I loved watching the Lakers get stomped at home.
I'm (generally) a good boy in game threads/Kings Rap. Lemme have this one to be a pain in!
And of course I loved watching the Lakers get stomped at home.
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