Bagley just average - nothing more, nothing less (split)

[forza kings]

Bagley is just an average player, nothing more nothing less. You all are giving him way more credit than what he actually is. He is not a difference maker and never will be. What a waste of a once-in-a-life-time draft chance!

 

[VF21]

MOD NOTE: I split this out of the starting lineup thread for what I hope is an obvious reason.

 

[AleksandarN]

Bagley is just an average player, nothing more nothing less. You all are giving him way more credit than what he actually is. He is not a difference maker and never will be. What a waste of a once-in-a-life-time draft chance!

You forgot the green font.

 

[Kings_of_California]

I disagree with this like 200%. He has the tools and has shown he can at least be a 20/10 type of player. I don't see that as average.

Waste of a once in a lifetime chance to draft Luka, you say? Yea I can see that. But strictly regarding Bagley, he is an impact player when he's healthy and he's still really young with plenty of room for growth.

 

[sergmatt]

He will be better than average and potentially much better than average. The only question is in today's modern NBA, does a guy like Bagley really help you win? Is he a huge difference maker? I don't know the answer to that. I suspect he will need to improve vastly on the defensive end because if you are a modern day big-man it's not enough to just be a great finisher around the rim and rebounder.

 

[kingsboi]

Sure, he is an average player right now. One would hope that he reaches his potential and becomes a nightly double double but it has to be more than just pretty numbers. I like Bagley but he is a ball stopper, I don't know that you can take that out of him. So with that said, the Kings need to have him be the post presence and go to work and on the other end not become a complete liability.

 

[Sactown ExPat]

Meh, we’ve passed on much better for much worse. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of being a Kings fan.

 

[itzcoatl]

Meh, we’ve passed on much better for much worse. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of being a Kings fan.

so true it hurts.

 

[Mad D]

Sounds more of a problem of the franchise than the player who had no say in getting picked. I mean some of you can simply leave like Brick did and let us suffer in peace, I wouldn't blame you.

 

[Pacboy]

I would argue this team currently needs Bagley more than ever. This is a jump shooting team. When fox doesn't create and the jumpers are not falling, everybody just stand still at the three point line and brick jumper. Bagley can create inside and generate some offense during those dry spell

 

[Turgenev]

He is already more than an average player. He was all rookie first team last season despite playing off the bench so he is in the top five of his peers with the same NBA years. He would not be overachieving if he made multiple all star teams or reached all NBA level before his career was done. He might not be who some people want him to be but to pretend he is simply average is a bit indulgent.

 

[EIM86]

is this one of those Luka threads again. Get the hell over it, he’s never gonna be a King EVER. Ride or leave with what we got

 

[NewArena]

the start of this season has some of you losing ur minds. As if last season didn’t happen he didn’t blow us away at times

He played what, 3 games this year? Knock it off. And don’t bother hopping on the bandwagon when the time comes

 

[Pacboy]

the start of this season has some of you losing ur minds. As if last season didn’t happen he didn’t blow us away at times

He played what, 3 games this year? Knock it off. And don’t bother hopping on the bandwagon when the time comes

More like one game. Can't wait till the dude is back

 

[Kingster]

It's just a crazy thread. He wasn't an average player last year in his rookie season at age 19. He was a difference maker.

 

[OptimusRhyme]

@OP
did you watch the last 25 games of last season? he looked unstoppable on offense.
Lots of similar bigs have had success (Bosh, Love, Griffin, Stoudemire)..
The F/O just needs to find some defensive beasts to put beside him at C & SF.

 

[rosa u podne]

Bagley is just an average player, nothing more nothing less. You all are giving him way more credit than what he actually is. He is not a difference maker and never will be. What a waste of a once-in-a-life-time draft chance!

He was a difference-maker last year, mostly negative one. Sometimes he was positive, especially later in the season. He was never neutral. I also disagree with your second point. Fox in his first year also was not good. In the second year, he became one of the better starting PGs in the NBA. I am sure Bagley will improve too.

 

[rosa u podne]

He is already more than an average player. He was all rookie first team last season despite playing off the bench so he is in the top five of his peers with the same NBA years. He would not be overachieving if he made multiple all star teams or reached all NBA level before his career was done. He might not be who some people want him to be but to pretend he is simply average is a bit indulgent.

He was below average NBA player last year (on average . He improved during the year and I expect him to improve more this year. Among rookies, he was one of the best. This is how it goes. You rarely get a rookie who is a net positive.

 

[dude12]

Bagley is just an average player, nothing more nothing less. You all are giving him way more credit than what he actually is. He is not a difference maker and never will be. What a waste of a once-in-a-life-time draft chance!

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

 

[Chupacabra]

the start of this season has some of you losing ur minds. As if last season didn’t happen he didn’t blow us away at times

He played what, 3 games this year? Knock it off. And don’t bother hopping on the bandwagon when the time comes

1 game. I don't think this thread is meant to be serious.

 

[Entity]

Anthony Davis rookie year 13.5 pts 8.2 reb 29 min per game 60 starts out of 64 games
Marvin Bagley rookie year 14.9 pts 7.6 reb 25 min per game 4 starts out of 62 games

Judging players by their rookie year is not smart

 

[ppine]

stop trolling people.
Bagley has God given talents. He just needs some time to put them on full display.

 

[King Baller]

Injured by another player who got a big suspension due to a substance use ban. Said substance is normally associated with PED's-->

https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-...epth/performance-enhancing-drugs/art-20046134

How about we let MB3 heal up and then play enough games to get into the rhythm of this season? THEN pass judgement on how he is playing

 

[joemama]

Didn't Bagley lead the team in PER last year? I know that it is not the end-all stat but it is still impressive.

 

[Livinthedream]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

I typed and deleted 10 different responses to the OP, because I didn't even know where to start. But your response sums it up perfectly.

 

[dude12]

I typed and deleted 10 different responses to the OP, because I didn't even know where to start. But your response sums it up perfectly.

I went with the simplest response although I did like EIM86’s post #12

 

[jcassio]

Most excellent thread, dude. hahahahaha.

 

[Gtronic]

Just Average... are you kidding me. Please take a look at this video below and tell me this guy is "just average". And Yes, I understand this is a highlight video and a highlight video of me playing pickup ball would make me look better than I am.

 

[John Galt]

it clearly isn't meant to be taken seriously, yet some people are taking it seriously and doubling-down on the idea that Bagley is average or worse yet, a flop. Some Kings fans are just off their meds.

 

[rosa u podne]

Just Average... are you kidding me. Please take a look at this video below and tell me this guy is "just average". And Yes, I understand this is a highlight video and a highlight video of me playing pickup ball would make me look better than I am.

On the video, you don't see defensive struggles or wrong decisions made on offense. However, you can see how athletic, fast and talented he is. I can't wait to see him back on the court. When he improves fundamentals and polishes his game, watch out!