Kings sign Dedmon 3 years 40 million
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Last year Dedmon had a 1.3% higher chance to grab a board defensively.
https://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats...&time=0&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0
WCS 1.5% better offensively.
https://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats...&time=0&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0
But you brought up a good point about WCS being away from the basket.
But I was expecting Dedmon to be a better defensive rebounder, not but much, but noticeable.
https://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats...&time=0&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0
WCS 1.5% better offensively.
https://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats...&time=0&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0
But you brought up a good point about WCS being away from the basket.
But I was expecting Dedmon to be a better defensive rebounder, not but much, but noticeable.
I think Dedmon will be fine. His role just needs to be defined to the skills he has. He is not Vlade Divac, Brad Miller or Jokic. He can finish around the hoop when set up, can shoot a nice jumper, block shots and defend the paint. He can easily average 10 points and 7 boards while defending the other teams center and the rim/paint.
The Kings have played badly these first 3 games AS A TEAM. The Coaches and Players all need to own it and pledge to improve. It can't all be put on one man.
The Kings have played badly these first 3 games AS A TEAM. The Coaches and Players all need to own it and pledge to improve. It can't all be put on one man.
I mean I had the Kings winning 34-36 games this year. The numbers showed their win total last year was better than what the projection would have been. Then you bake in the fact that we got a completely new coach. This stuff takes time. Does it mean it’s any less frustrating? No, I yell at my TV while in the midst of the game, but I’m going to hold off on jumping off the bridge until they get those 10-20 games under their belt.
Dedmon hasn’t showed well thus far but like a lot have mentioned, it does look like he’s not being utilized correctly in the offense. Hopefully that changes soon. Perhaps there is some “Dedmon to LAL” deal that makes sense if he’s not working out for us considering he’d fit well next to LeBron and Davis since Davis is hellbent on trying to avoid playing C when he can.
Dedmon hasn’t showed well thus far but like a lot have mentioned, it does look like he’s not being utilized correctly in the offense. Hopefully that changes soon. Perhaps there is some “Dedmon to LAL” deal that makes sense if he’s not working out for us considering he’d fit well next to LeBron and Davis since Davis is hellbent on trying to avoid playing C when he can.
Dedmon will be fine as long as Walton realizes that he can't initiate the offense from the high post with Dedmon. Dedmon is a very limited passer on offense.
Dedmon should be either camped out on his favorite 3 point spot or posted deep down low to rebound or get a put back while on offense. Using Dedmon as a high post initiator is just plain lunacy.
If Walton can figure that out ASAP, then Dedmon may have a chance to stick in the lineup. Trying to change Dedmon into Vlade, Brad Miller or DMC, is going to make the team just plain bad.
Dedmon should be either camped out on his favorite 3 point spot or posted deep down low to rebound or get a put back while on offense. Using Dedmon as a high post initiator is just plain lunacy.
If Walton can figure that out ASAP, then Dedmon may have a chance to stick in the lineup. Trying to change Dedmon into Vlade, Brad Miller or DMC, is going to make the team just plain bad.
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I think he is being asked to do a lot more than what he was accustomed to do in Atlanta and San Antonio. You can tell he is just not comfortable out there. He's overthinking every move.
Walton seems to be asking him to initiate the high post offense and he simply can't. He is a catch and shoot 3 point guy or a put back and rebound guy on offense.
To me, Walton needs to figure out what the strengths and weaknesses of his players are ASAP and put them in a position to succeed. Until that happens, I think the whole team will just feel and look lost.
Walton seems to be asking him to initiate the high post offense and he simply can't. He is a catch and shoot 3 point guy or a put back and rebound guy on offense.
To me, Walton needs to figure out what the strengths and weaknesses of his players are ASAP and put them in a position to succeed. Until that happens, I think the whole team will just feel and look lost.
This is exactly how he should be being used....set screens either on ball or off ball toward perimeter and then set up for 3s....and the kings players need to hit him with the pass when he is open. I want to see Dedmon taking 10 or even 15 3s a game if he is hitting in the upper 30s %. When defenses honor his shot that will make him worth the contract he signed....if he is under 35% though on his s 3s then he is a complete bust though
If Willie would have been willing to take a low dollar contract with the kings and ok with whatever role he was assigned i would have love to keep him under 10 mil per year....unfortunately, it seems he was in no way open to that and would rather go to a new team if money was going to be low
I felt the backup role was perfect for him and we should have kept him for the qualifying offer unless he would be a lockerroom cancer
I felt the backup role was perfect for him and we should have kept him for the qualifying offer unless he would be a lockerroom cancer
I’m wondering if we should just camp Dedmon in the corner on offense and use Bagley and Holmes in the PnR and Bjelica in the PnP.
Dedmon is way better from the corner than above the break from three. He shot 39.1% from the corner in 2017-18 and 42.6% from the corner last year (he’s 1 for 1 this year from the corner too
). Compared to 35.8% last year when above the break.
Putting him in the corner on offense also removes the need for him to make a smart play if the defense rotated to him out of a pick and roll. I’d rather have Bagley, Bjelica, Giles, or Holmes making that decision out of a PnR.
I think we all see Holmes ability to finish as a lob threat and we hope that Bagley can someday be just as effective. Dedmon seems a bit limited vertically.
As for the PnP, Bjelica is much better shooting above the break (above 40%) and is a much better passer if the defense shifts to him.
Putting Dedmon in the corner allows him to take his favorite shot with his feet set with really easy decisions: shoot it, swing it up top, or make a straight line drive to the hoop.
Dedmon looks overwhelmed in the PnR when he doesn’t have an open shot upon catching the ball.
Dedmon is way better from the corner than above the break from three. He shot 39.1% from the corner in 2017-18 and 42.6% from the corner last year (he’s 1 for 1 this year from the corner too
). Compared to 35.8% last year when above the break.Putting him in the corner on offense also removes the need for him to make a smart play if the defense rotated to him out of a pick and roll. I’d rather have Bagley, Bjelica, Giles, or Holmes making that decision out of a PnR.
I think we all see Holmes ability to finish as a lob threat and we hope that Bagley can someday be just as effective. Dedmon seems a bit limited vertically.
As for the PnP, Bjelica is much better shooting above the break (above 40%) and is a much better passer if the defense shifts to him.
Putting Dedmon in the corner allows him to take his favorite shot with his feet set with really easy decisions: shoot it, swing it up top, or make a straight line drive to the hoop.
Dedmon looks overwhelmed in the PnR when he doesn’t have an open shot upon catching the ball.
I do not know if I overestimated him, I really don't know him and I was excited by him joining the team simply because so many talked enthusiastically about him throughout the previous season as a good target and good fit. Obviously that "good fit" has yet to be the case. I doubt he winds up being worthless, but it's certainly frustrating. I also imagine that WCS would continue to frustrate many folks had we just kept him and not signed Dedmon.
The Pacers are also winless, so I'm wondering how much the India trip may have taken out of preseason adjustments for each team. We obviously had a lot to deal with, not just Dedmon but the coaching change and other players including Holmes finding their spots. Not to mention an early injury to Bagley.
Anything to get some positive momentum going will be welcome by me.
The Pacers are also winless, so I'm wondering how much the India trip may have taken out of preseason adjustments for each team. We obviously had a lot to deal with, not just Dedmon but the coaching change and other players including Holmes finding their spots. Not to mention an early injury to Bagley.
Anything to get some positive momentum going will be welcome by me.
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